As of right now the only thing that really hurts it for me is that the games run at 75hz. Everything else about it is phenomenal.
Oculus Rift DK2 Thread
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As of right now the only thing that really hurts it for me is that the games run at 75hz. Everything else about it is phenomenal.
revolverjgw
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Anybody play Dying Light? It runs surprisingly well for me, but it has that damn scale issue that Alien Isolation had, where everything just feels too small, and that kills presence for me. If I could adjust that like I can in vorpx and vireio this would be amazing. And being completely immune to motion sickness or any of that shit, the first person parkour feels great. The night scenes are oppressively creepy, darkness is so powerful in VR.
Gang, its PC upgrade time.
I want to run 1920x1080 @ the 75fps required for Stereo/OcRift performs smoothly. (Deving in Ue4 currently)
I have been out of the pc-build game for a while. Could I get this done for 1200? I wanted to get a decent HP with a good amount of ram, thinking 16-32, and shove a good video card in there..
any tried and true suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I want to run 1920x1080 @ the 75fps required for Stereo/OcRift performs smoothly. (Deving in Ue4 currently)
I have been out of the pc-build game for a while. Could I get this done for 1200? I wanted to get a decent HP with a good amount of ram, thinking 16-32, and shove a good video card in there..
any tried and true suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Spec something that can grow easily. So pick a motherboard that has good SLI support - looks like that will be a good option for VR. Then get the best you can from the gaming PC thread. I don't think you'd want to go overboard on the CPU or go with DDR4 unless you really want to. I'd keep as much money back for the GPU and use it to buy the best single GPU you can, with the view that if/when consumer units are 90Hz and higher res, you can add another GPU in 12-18 months to keep up.
thx I iwonder if theres a barebones machine that I can buy and go from there, but its more likely i'll have to build. Not sure if HP's come with mobo's that have sli support.
Also, iirc, from a while ago, SLI wasn't being utilized by ue4/unity..? is this not the case.
Compsiox
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Betta Lines
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VR SLI deals with the separate renders for each eye, not the fact there are physically two panels. It would work for DK2 and any other headset that uses a single panel.
Compsiox
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I'm aware but that no longer matters (to me at least). I don't want an HMD with inferior rendering.
Not sure what you're talking about.
Yeah, I don't see how having separate panels would matter for SLI - it's the same either way. The benefits I do see are:
- able to physically align each screen to your eye/lens for better pixel utilization
- it's cheaper to make two smaller panels than one big one (due to yields)
- more pixels on a small panel than half of the larger one, so higher total pixel count
- better aspect ratio
- able to physically align each screen to your eye/lens for better pixel utilization
- it's cheaper to make two smaller panels than one big one (due to yields)
- more pixels on a small panel than half of the larger one, so higher total pixel count
- better aspect ratio
Also, wider field of view. You can tilt each panel otuwards a bit, because your nose blocks the edge of each eye's FOV. You only need to have overlapping FOV in the center.
Ah, nice. Looks like that might make for a bit more nose room too. I have a really high nose bridge (avatar quote) so it's been limiting how close I can get with the lenses on the DK2.
Its always just been my go-to. I just mean buying a PC thats built, then slugging more ram/stronger videocard in. Haven't had any HP's fail on me. But, not a deal breaker. Will look into that, thank you.
Just ordered the Leap Motion kit. Anyone play with this yet + ue4?
Compsiox
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Compsiox
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Is it worth it even after all this new tech was announced?
Theonik
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Depends on when Oculus actually uses the hand-tracking tech they bought a few months ago.
Yeah, im working with kids and helping them with learning ue4/vr stuff just playing with it at an after-school center. Will be fun to play with until stuff gets more finalized, and hopefully we can apply what we learn as we go towards new tech.
Compsiox
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Oh okay sounds great for your situation.
Captain Smoker
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Yeah, I tried the DK2 today, what a luck. 
But only for two minutes and a demo from people of my university, still great.
My glasses were too wide so I couldn't use them, so it wasn't that sharp for me, but still ok
I saw light under my nose
The FOV could be bigger
Noisy surroundings and I had to go any minute, so I couldn't dive into it ^^
The screendoor effect is much smaller than I would've thought, it's there but really doesn't bother me, maybe because I had no glasses and therefore it was blurred
It's really smooth and responsive, moving the head felt really great
The scale is also great, but it was a small demo, I sat infront of a desk, but it feels "right"
All in all I really look forward to this and some great experiences.
But only for two minutes and a demo from people of my university, still great.
My glasses were too wide so I couldn't use them, so it wasn't that sharp for me, but still ok
I saw light under my nose
The FOV could be bigger
Noisy surroundings and I had to go any minute, so I couldn't dive into it ^^
The screendoor effect is much smaller than I would've thought, it's there but really doesn't bother me, maybe because I had no glasses and therefore it was blurred
It's really smooth and responsive, moving the head felt really great
The scale is also great, but it was a small demo, I sat infront of a desk, but it feels "right"
All in all I really look forward to this and some great experiences.
This one is fun; https://share.oculus.com/app/experiencejapan
Touring Japan;
Careful installing the video codec.
Theres some good haunted house ones too. I'd just go to the share page and dig a bit.
Still having issues with everything seeming slightly too small. IPD issue? I can fix it by reducing IPD by about 10mm, but I know that's far below my actual IPD, even from just looking in a mirror.
It's not a huge issue, but it's noticeable in some of the experiences I've been in.
It's not a huge issue, but it's noticeable in some of the experiences I've been in.
Compsiox
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Have never heard of this ever. Wish I could help.
NVIDIA's VR Direct presentation from GTC 2015. Co-presented by Crytek.
http://on-demand.gputechconf.com/gtc/2015/video/S5668.html
http://on-demand.gputechconf.com/gtc/2015/video/S5668.html
ashecitism
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Why would it be dead?
Compsiox
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The alpha driver for VR SLI is in fact in the hands of developers. I can't believe I missed that.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...ch-positions-titan-x-as-ultimate-vr-solution/
Big Takeover
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That's what the video says? Hot damn. Good news. I had been afraid of Nvidia sectioning it off as a Maxwell exclusive.
"Try to render at native refresh rate", Timewarp "not for upsampling"..
Big Takeover
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I picked up two Titan X cards recently. Looking forward to updates on VR SLI.
I'd like to try out that PhysX Flex demo with VR sometime. It seems like it would be a lot of fun.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1016737
I'd like to try out that PhysX Flex demo with VR sometime. It seems like it would be a lot of fun.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1016737
They recently released a beta of 5.0.1 so they're still supporting it. Unfortunately on my end it still hasn't corrected the judder problems that 4.4 introduced for me in direct to rift mode. Hopefully this new update will fix all that.
I wonder if this is bringing in their new rendering path that they were talking about at GDC.
Prat
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Man, try GTA5 using VorpX and increase its FOV.
metareferential
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Crescent Bay has a double-screen setup.
magnumpy
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yeah, I'm guessing they'd use two of these screens, one for each eye.
Theonik
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Doubtful. Just wait and see.
NoPiece
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It seems like between the announcement of valve vr, the silence on an oculus release date, and the news that that Oculus is pursuing an exclusive content strategy (eve valkyrie ), it has really cooled off the interest in Oculus. I feel like they need to step up and get people excited again.
chris121580
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Anyone tried out Project Cars with the DK2 yet?
Compsiox
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I would like to hear impressions too.
Big Takeover
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Check the last couple pages of the OT for a few impressions from dudes.
If you don't mind a slightly dated look, then Betta Lines has a bunch of great videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/BettaLines/videos?spfreload=10
If you don't mind a slightly dated look, then Betta Lines has a bunch of great videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/BettaLines/videos?spfreload=10
chris121580
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Awesome, thanks a lot!
I have been using the DK2 for a couple months with pCARS.
Setup
- No direct mode. Extended only. Bit of a PIA.
- I have not experienced enough crashes to say that it is an issue
- Calibration is easy. Map a button to center VR headset. Press button.
Hardware performance
- This is the big one. In order to play pCARS on the DK2 at max settings, 1080p, 74hz, with lots of cars on track, sunset, and rain... you will need a Titan X (or something not yet released). In the future VRSLI will essentially be a requirement for max settings.
- An overclocked GTX 980 requires settings to be turned all down to high and some to medium.
- Since you are often staring into the distance in racing games, and the level of detail in pCARS is so high, you do notice the screendoor effect. It is not terrible, but it is very noticeable. Once you start to focus on driving, you notice it less.
- If the framerate is constant, then the experience is actually very very nice. I would be happy with the refresh rate as it is. I never got sick unless the framerate started to fluctuate heavily.
- Head tracking is responsive but obviously lacks good 360 degree tracking
In game experience
- The 3D effects for rain and sun glare look especially amazing. I once tried to shield my eyes with the DK2 on... it was not very effective.
- Depth perception is also a HUGE improvement over non VR. You can place the car so well. It is almost as big of an effect as going from a gamepad to a FFB wheel. It is like you have a whole new lexicon of inputs to refine your driving.
- I think it was gamermuscle who said that AC looks more natural in VR and I have to agree. pCARS is a little too saturated, bright and reflective. I wish there was a way to increase the contrast of the color palette. Overall this is pretty minor.
- I have to say, it is an assault on your senses. I play with "surround sound" headphones and a Fanatec CSW v2 and after an hour.... you are mentally tired. It is definitely not a casual experience.
- IMO all cars look good IMO. The DK2 really shows off the great modeling work SMS has done with pCARS.
TLDR. You need top of the line hardware to run at max settings/framerate and there is some screendoor effect. However, once you have the settings turned down a bit, the experience is great.
I had heard that direct mode was supported as a beta option:
However, someone else reported no success with this. I have yet to try it myself.
chris121580
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I posted this in the Project Cars thread
I just experienced the future of racing games. Oculus Rift DK2 driving a Formula A car on California Highway Stage 2 in the middle of a thunderstorm. That alone was worth the price of admission for both the Rift and the game
I just experienced the future of racing games. Oculus Rift DK2 driving a Formula A car on California Highway Stage 2 in the middle of a thunderstorm. That alone was worth the price of admission for both the Rift and the game
Big Takeover
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Yep, racing games and VR are a perfect match. The rain in pCARS is particularly outrageous looking.
What settings and hardware are you running?