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Canada Alert

Taken from Reddit:

And this has to be on a Kickstarter unit.

Not surprised in general but surprised they would hit a Kickstarter unit, which is essentially a gift, with duty.



They supposedly start shipping Wednesday. Unless the goal posts get moved again.

Wait! I thought they were going to pay the duty fees? How much is that going to cast?

 

[Unstable]

I ordered mine three days after preorders opened.


So, I'll be getting it in June.









=.(

 

[The Elite]

Wait! I thought they were going to pay the duty fees? How much is that going to cast?

I don't think they ever said they would pay duty fees.

I am expecting it to be the cost of tax on $849 CAD (If that is the amount the manifest has).

So about $110 in Ontario.

 

[plagiarize]

It's a great thing about being here in the US. No import fees to worry about. My Rift is on a UPS truck right now, and has been since this morning. The next few hours are going to be tense. Hopefully it arrives in the stated time window (12:15 EDT to 16:15 EDT). I've occasionally had problems before where the truck didn't arrive, or where the driver didn't give me all the packages he had for me, and then claimed on his forms that I wasn't there to sign for the ones he just forgot to take out of the truck.

I've taken every precaution to make sure I'm here. I can't afford to take another day off.

Just being a little paranoid with the excitement I think. Is today really the day? Is VR really launching properly after all this time?

 

[Insane Metal]

The future has come.

 

[shiftplusone]

You don't need a flight stick at all. Some of the games best pilots are using KB&M.

That said, to make KM&M work with a VR headset in a game with 100+ buttons (i.e. the inability to look at the keyboard) you'll need to invest in Voice Attack and either set up the base system or pick up one of their cool compatible voice packs from HCS Voice Packs and do a little less work. You'll need a microphone of decent quality, but once you memorize the commands to get the ship to do what you want by voice, things will work great.

That said, yes a good HOTAS is recommended since you can bind every button to a decent HOTAS system such that you'd only ever touch the keyboard for comms chatting. But those setups can be expensive and people will be quick to bring up their $150 systems, which are only affordable considerations for the hardcore. IMO, if you aren't sure this is a genre you know you you'll be getting 200+ hours out of, it's best to just get something in the $50 range or stick with KB&M until you know space/plane combat games are your thing. If you want to upgrade from there you can to something in the $100, $200, $300 or even $400 range if you like. The stick used by Alfred in Batman vs Superman is one of our better HOTAs options. On the other side of the spectrum, the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X is one of the most popular on the market. Go with your gut and look forward to a great game and experience.

lol I appreciate the information but I know I like these games, I just haven't played one in a long long time. I had an old saitek x52 during my bf2 days that I loved but it broke during a move

I didn't know about that warthog being so cheap though so thanks, might go ahead and grab one even though the stick and throttle are attached and look far too close to each other

 

[lmimmfn]

And this has to be on a Kickstarter unit.

Not surprised in general but surprised they would hit a Kickstarter unit, which is essentially a gift, with duty.

Gifts over a certain value are subject to taxes/import duty. Kinda annoying as ill prob be hit with ~130euro tax on my KS unit, oh well

 

[Majukun]

have they plan to actually release the thing on the shelves in stores?

 

[Unhandled Exception]

Mine should be here in ~4 hours. Won't have time to mess with it till tonight.

 

[mrklaw]

I don't think they ever said they would pay duty fees.

I am expecting it to be the cost of tax on $849 CAD (If that is the amount the manifest has).

So about $110 in Ontario.

I hope this doesn't mean KS units are shipping from the US.

 

[Man]

I will be away and traveling this week due to work. I'm back Sunday 3rd. I might actually be sitting on both Rift and Vive when I return.

 

[Turin Turambar]

have they plan to actually release the thing on the shelves in stores?

Yep, they will start with a small presence in late April, and I suppose it will increase with each month.

 

[The Elite]

I hope this doesn't mean KS units are shipping from the US.

It seems they are for Canada. That's not surprising though.

Where are they manufactured?

 

[lmimmfn]

I hope this doesn't mean KS units are shipping from the US.

I hope not too, i doubt it as theyre shipped from China, although the KS units are supposedly slightly different. Itl'' be seriously annoying if thats the case as will take ages. Hopefully the difference is just some leaflet that can be thrown in at regional centres

 

[Chairmanchuck]

You can get your Eliteangerous Oculus Home key here, if you have the game already:

https://www.frontierstore.net/frontier_partnerkeys/

 

[Teletraan1]

Pretty shity they couldn't even get some warehouse space in the countries outside of the US to avoid some heavy duty fees for the users that are not American. Even small chinese manufacturers that I have dealt with have done that so that their product wasn't so unappealing to people who have to add over a hundred dollars to the price of the product for duty fees. I would expect them to get this kind of infrastructure in place once regular people are in line for them. I can see early adopters not caring as much.

 

[Turin Turambar]

Pretty shity they couldn't even get some warehouse space in the countries outside of the US to avoid some heavy duty fees for the users that are not American. Even small chinese manufacturers that I have dealt with have done that so that their product wasn't so unappealing to people who have to add over a hundred dollars to the price of the product for duty fees. I would expect them to get this kind of infrastructure in place once regular people are in line for them. I can see early adopters not caring as much.

Yeah, in the part of logistics / taxes / fee they are doing it pretty bad. In Europe even when you add the VAT amount to the US price, there is a difference, they are putting extra fee to us just because.

 

[artsi]

Pretty shity they couldn't even get some warehouse space in the countries outside of the US to avoid some heavy duty fees for the users that are not American. Even small chinese manufacturers that I have dealt with have done that so that their product wasn't so unappealing to people who have to add over a hundred dollars to the price of the product for duty fees. I would expect them to get this kind of infrastructure in place once regular people are in line for them. I can see early adopters not caring as much.

Huh? They are doing that. Shipping from Ireland to Europe, Australia to Australia, etc. so duties and taxes are included in the price.

I don't know if Canada is some kind of exception, or it's just a mistake.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

You can get your Eliteangerous Oculus Home key here, if you have the game already:

https://www.frontierstore.net/frontier_partnerkeys/

I click claim and nothing happens

 

[Dreams-Visions]

lol I appreciate the information but I know I like these games, I just haven't played one in a long long time. I had an old saitek x52 during my bf2 days that I loved but it broke during a move

I didn't know about that warthog being so cheap though so thanks, might go ahead and grab one even though the stick and throttle are attached and look far too close to each other

If you have a bank account that makes the Warthog look "so cheap", I'd recommend a CH Products triple setup. Stick throttle, pedals. No reason to accept less than the best.

 

[The Elite]

Huh? They are doing that. Shipping from Ireland to Europe, Australia to Australia, etc. so duties and taxes are included in the price.

I don't know if Canada is some kind of exception, or it's just a mistake.

Canada usually gets the shaft. We're used to it.

I click claim and nothing happens

I can't even log in right now. It times out.

I might stick with launching it from Steam anyway. I will wait and see how much more convenient launching from Oculus Home is.

 

[UnrealEck]

You can get your Eliteangerous Oculus Home key here, if you have the game already:

https://www.frontierstore.net/frontier_partnerkeys/

Does that include Steam versions?

 

[jotun?]

Contents:

• Oculus Rift Headset with built-in headphones and mic
• Sensor
• An Xbox One controller
• Oculus Remote
• FREE copy of Lucky's Tale and Eve Valkyrie

Does it include the wireless adapter for the XB1 controller?

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Does that include Steam versions?

Yes. If you launch the Steamversion, you have to register a Frontier Account. Then after doing that, you can go to your account page and find the keys for the Oculus Version of E, and the Steamversion.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

So this is probably a stupid question but can one download Oculus Home now or is that a thing that comes on disk with the hmd?

 

[Wallach]

If you have a bank account that makes the Warthog look "so cheap", I'd recommend a CH Products triple setup. Stick throttle, pedals. No reason to accept less than the best.

It's actually a little cheaper to get the whole CH setup than it is the Warthog, at least on Amazon.

 

[plagiarize]

Does it include the wireless adapter for the XB1 controller?

By all accounts, yes.

 

[lmimmfn]

So this is probably a stupid question but can one download Oculus Home now or is that a thing that comes on disk with the hmd?

https://www.oculus.com/en-us/setup/

link will work in ~ 4 hours, 10:30 PT

 

[Chairmanchuck]

So this is probably a stupid question but can one download Oculus Home now or is that a thing that comes on disk with the hmd?

https://www.oculus.com/en-us/setup/

Wait a few hours till you can download it.

Edit: Too late.

 

[OneUh8]

VR is here folks. Exciting times.

 

[Wallach]

https://www.oculus.com/en-us/setup/

link will work in ~ 4 hours, 10:30 PT

~5, actually. Dang PDT.

Edit - well, I guess PST would actually be another hour earlier, so "based PDT" in this case.

 

[Teletraan1]

Huh? They are doing that. Shipping from Ireland to Europe, Australia to Australia, etc. so duties and taxes are included in the price.

I don't know if Canada is some kind of exception, or it's just a mistake.

Sorry my post was just based on this canadian duty info. We have plenty of land for warehouses here so I hope it is just a mistake. Like I said it makes for a really unappealing product when you have to add over a hundred dollars extra because they don't know what they are doing with logistics. Hope they get it sorted.

 

[Social]

Back in 2005/2006 I talked about the coming VR revolution and nobody believed I knew what I was talking about.

And only 10 years later, you were right! You're a wizard Kevin!

 

[lmimmfn]

~5, actually. Dang PDT.

Edit - well, I guess PST would actually be another hour earlier, so "based PDT" in this case.

youre right my bad, was in CA last week but BST change at the weekend has me all confused

Its 10:30 CA time when its available

 

[plagiarize]

youre right my bad, was in CA last week but BST change at the weekend has me all confused

Its 10:30 CA time when its available

I might have my Rift before then. I'm not counting on it, but it'll be pretty funny if I've got the hardware and I'm waiting for the software. Hopefully their website holds up.

 

[Herr Starr]

I wonder if any of us no Kickstarters will ever see our Rifts.

No. Never. It's all been a scam from the start.






What kind of answer were you expecting with a question like that? I can't even understand the purpose of hitting submit on it.

 

[Man]

For Nvidia owners, seems like driver version 364.72 released today.
Full support for the Oculus Rift etc.

 

[sportz103]

So they're not shipping and preorders until two days after launch? Weird move.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

It's actually a little cheaper to get the whole CH setup than it is the Warthog, at least on Amazon.

Oh nice.

 

[Wildstar75]

From ZeroInformation on OculusReddit:

Spoiler

Apparently most of the Crescent Bay demos will be available for free as part of title named dreamlands. Very good news!

And there is a surprise secret title from Oculus which he describes as a voice acted cross between Pokemon Snap and Viva Piñata. Sounds like a full game. He said its on the top of his VR games list. And he has a Vive Pre.

You can play Luckys Tale today on your DK 2 if you want. Also the Story Studio titles are up there.

 

[lmimmfn]

I might have my Rift before then. I'm not counting on it, but it'll be pretty funny if I've got the hardware and I'm waiting for the software. Hopefully their website holds up.

damn, that would be annoying, im not jelly at all lol

 

[Turin Turambar]

From ZeroInformation on OculusReddit:

Spoiler

Apparently most of the Crescent Bay demos will be available for free as part of title named dreamlands. Very good news!

And there is a surprise secret title from Oculus which he describes as a voice acted cross between Pokemon Snap and Viva Piñata. Sounds like a full game. He said its on the top of his VR games list. And he has a Vive Pre.

You can play Luckys Tale today on your DK 2 if you want. Also the Story Studio titles are up there.

About the last part, someone should make a "VR films" thread in the Offtopic forum!

 

[lmimmfn]

New Nvidia VR drivers - http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/100868/nvidiaupdate

 

[shinboy630]

You don't need a flight stick at all. Some of the games best pilots are using KB&M.

That said, to make KM&M work with a VR headset in a game with 100+ buttons (i.e. the inability to look at the keyboard) you'll need to invest in Voice Attack and either set up the base system or pick up one of their cool compatible voice packs from HCS Voice Packs and do a little less work. You'll need a microphone of decent quality, but once you memorize the commands to get the ship to do what you want by voice, things will work great.

That said, yes a good HOTAS is recommended since you can bind every button to a decent HOTAS system such that you'd only ever touch the keyboard for comms chatting. But those setups can be expensive and people will be quick to bring up their $150 systems, which are only affordable considerations for the hardcore. IMO, if you aren't sure this is a genre you know you you'll be getting 200+ hours out of, it's best to just get something in the $50 range or stick with KB&M until you know space/plane combat games are your thing. If you want to upgrade from there you can to something in the $100, $200, $300 or even $400 range if you like. The stick used by Alfred in Batman vs Superman is one of our better HOTAs options. On the other side of the spectrum, the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X is one of the most popular on the market. Go with your gut and look forward to a great game and experience.

I use the T-Flight HOTAS X for Elite, really enjoy it, and plan on using it with my Rift as well once it arrives.

 

[UnrealEck]

I plan on getting an X52 or an X55. I think the X55's throttle handle looks like it's better. But it's £50 more expensive. It also has dual throttle handles.
The stick on the X52 looks like it might be better though since it's height adjustable and the buttons seem better placed for easier reach.
The Thrustmaster T-Flight looks a bit cheap to me. But I guess it might feel similar to the X50's in build quality. I won't even see them anyway with the Rift on. I also heard in Elite, the in-game stick model is the same as the X52.

 

[Compsiox]

Don't forget that all day one Home/Runtime software will be available here: https://www.oculus.com/en-us/setup/

 

[Hari Seldon]

Looking forward to spending the day at work watching unboxing and first impression vids. Mine is not coming in until late May. It is for the best though since I am waiting for pascal.

 

[plagiarize]

New Nvidia VR drivers - http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/100868/nvidiaupdate

It's really happening!

Most excited I've been installing drivers in a while.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

I'm really looking forward to first impressions. I'm making plans to create a new PC this summer and I'm aiming for Rift capability. This is super exciting!

 

[lmimmfn]

It's really happening!

Most excited I've been installing drivers in a while.

It is.....finally, seems like forever since the E3 2012 Carmack videos. Now we just need Touch lol