• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Official 2008 "I Need A New PC" Thread

thorns

Banned
So I got my motherboard and cpu that I somehow destroyed burned through warranty. Now I'm running my Q6600 2.4 @ 3.5GHz with Zalman CNPS9500. Really damn good cooler. Idle temp is 48-50 and load is 60. I could probably go more but the voltage and memory can't seem to handle it..
 

thorns

Banned
aznpxdd said:
Uh...48-50c is really damn high for idle temps. My e8400@3.8's load temp is around high 40's.

well dual core vs. quad core, 45nm vs 65nm.... and yours is 26% increase, mine is 45%... To be comparable, you would need to run it at 4.2 or something..

edit: and of course e8400 is a damn good cpu, easily best value for money right now..
 

Nikorasu

Member

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
MoxManiac said:
How is ATI's driver support lately? I don't have a loyalty to either ATI or nvidia but in my experience nvidia's been better with drivers.
No crashes, good framerates accross all games on a 3870X2.
 
grade me GAF, here is what i want to get from ibuypower.com
anything i should change?

Nzxt Lexa Blackline Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply
650 Watt -- Coolermaster Extreme Power Supply
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 (2x 3.0GHz/6MB L2 Cache/1333FSB)

SLI] MSI P7N SLI-FI Nvidia nForce 750i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394, Three PCI-E MB

4096MB [1024MB X4] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair
ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB PCI-Express X-16
500 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache]

since it's from that website i don't know what RAM they use or what brand for the hard drives, any other suggestions are welcome.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
evil solrac v3.0 said:
grade me GAF, here is what i want to get from ibuypower.com
anything i should change?

Nzxt Lexa Blackline Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply
650 Watt -- Coolermaster Extreme Power Supply
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 (2x 3.0GHz/6MB L2 Cache/1333FSB)

SLI] MSI P7N SLI-FI Nvidia nForce 750i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394, Three PCI-E MB

4096MB [1024MB X4] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair
ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB PCI-Express X-16
500 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache]

since it's from that website i don't know what RAM they use or what brand for the hard drives, any other suggestions are welcome.
Price?
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
evil solrac v3.0 said:
1,700 on the dot. too much?? help. i basically want something that will last a couple of years and can also let me run my graphic design programs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 $195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030 $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102723 $340
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=Antec+Nine+Hundred $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 $85

DIY for $1120

Actually if you are going to pay that much, I would go for a setup like mine and just build it yourself. I have an AMD Quad Core a OC'd X2 and 8GB of DDR2 ram. Srsly, build it yourself and you will have a PC that will last. However your current build is really good.
 

AZ Greg

Member
Ok guys, my Dell with an E8400 and 8800GT just came in. Just wondering if there are any settings that need to be changed to get the best performance for gaming. I understand I can't OC the CPU, but are there any settings that come toned down by default? Also, for the 8800GT, I installed a driver update and it is now at 7.15.11.6925. Is that the most up to date? Any other tips? Thanks!
 
aznpxdd said:
Yeah, TRUE120 is about as good as you can get with air cooling. What voltage is your e8400 running at under stress?

Regardless, 48-50c is still way too high for idle, for any chip.
Is this True120 about as good as a TuniqTower?
Also, is there any gain of performance by forcing the graphic settings with the Nvidia Control Panel?
 
godhandiscen said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 $195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030 $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102723 $340
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=Antec+Nine+Hundred $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 $85

DIY for $1120

Actually if you are going to pay that much, I would go for a setup like mine and just build it yourself. I have an AMD Quad Core a OC'd X2 and 8GB of DDR2 ram. Srsly, build it yourself and you will have a PC that will last. However your current build is really good.

i don't trust myself enough to know how to put everything togheter, :( plus i don't have the equipment to do it. i don't mind paying extra to have everything straight out of the box and squared away (although i completely agree with you that putting it togheter is much better) *sigh* oh well, are there any tutorials online to teach me how to build it myself? otherwise i'm gonna buy this.
 

VaLiancY

Member
evil solrac v3.0 said:
i don't trust myself enough to know how to put everything togheter, :( plus i don't have the equipment to do it. i don't mind paying extra to have everything straight out of the box and squared away (although i completely agree with you that putting it togheter is much better) *sigh* oh well, are there any tutorials online to teach me how to build it myself? otherwise i'm gonna buy this.

Corsair System Build Logs.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
evil solrac v3.0 said:
i don't trust myself enough to know how to put everything togheter, :( plus i don't have the equipment to do it. i don't mind paying extra to have everything straight out of the box and squared away (although i completely agree with you that putting it togheter is much better) *sigh* oh well, are there any tutorials online to teach me how to build it myself? otherwise i'm gonna buy this.
The only equipment you need is a screwdriver, and an anti-static stap. Building a PC is pretty simple, you can't (really) put something in wrong.

If you're still not wanting to build, see if stores around you would build the machine if you brought all the parts in.
 

aznpxdd

Member
Labombadog said:
Is this True120 about as good as a TuniqTower?
Also, is there any gain of performance by forcing the graphic settings with the Nvidia Control Panel?

TRUE is better than the Tuniq Tower. Its the best HSF available, but its price is pretty hefty.

~$70 and doesn't come with a fan.
 
Here's my dilemma. I've currently got an Athlon 64 4000 and a Geforce 7900 GT. That system is about a couple years old and I'm not really ready to trash it and build a new system. What I am willing to do is replace the video card, but I'm not sure how much of a difference something like a 8800GT would make with my (slightly) old processor. What I do know is that my system is struggling to run most games at an acceptable graphics level. Thoughts?
 
Ikuu said:
The only equipment you need is a screwdriver, and an anti-static stap. Building a PC is pretty simple, you can't (really) put something in wrong.

If you're still not wanting to build, see if stores around you would build the machine if you brought all the parts in.


Ooooh... that might work....
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Confusatron said:
Here's my dilemma. I've currently got an Athlon 64 4000 and a Geforce 7900 GT. That system is about a couple years old and I'm not really ready to trash it and build a new system. What I am willing to do is replace the video card, but I'm not sure how much of a difference something like a 8800GT would make with my (slightly) old processor. What I do know is that my system is struggling to run most games at an acceptable graphics level. Thoughts?
What is yoiur budget? What is your processor socket?
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Confusatron said:
Socket 939, budget in the "few hundred"ish... probably anything over $500 would scare me away, unless it was a stellar deal.
For $500 you could buy all the parts needed to build a Crysis capable rig. Its up yo you.
 
Hi, Computer-GAF! I had a quick sorta-technical question I was hoping you could answer. I'm working on building my own PC, but I'm not completely familiar with some of the more modern stuff, like SATA setups. Anyways, I was wondering...most of the power supplies only list two SATA connectors, but the motherboard I was looking at supports 6 SATA devices.

My question is, do SATA hard drives, CD drives, etc, only require SATA connectors to attach to the MoBo, or do they all also have a unique power supply required as well? I'm guessing it's the latter, but I wanted to make sure.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
You just use extenders and the like, power cables tend to have two or so plugs on them anyway.
 
godhandiscen said:
For $500 you could buy all the parts needed to build a Crysis capable rig. Its up yo you.

I guess I could go all out and build something like this (this requires recycling my case, dvd-rom, and monitor):

Intel C2D E8500 - $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036

ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030

Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134488

EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318

Western Digital Caviar SE16 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb - $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136131

OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V - $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002

Total Price: $939


I need to think this one over...
 

Spy

Member
Do you guys think the 9800GX2 will drastically drop in price when the GTX 260/280 comes out? If not I think I'll be picking up the GTX 260.
 

aznpxdd

Member
Confusatron said:
I guess I could go all out and build something like this (this requires recycling my case, dvd-rom, and monitor):

Intel C2D E8500 - $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036

ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030

Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134488

EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318

Western Digital Caviar SE16 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb - $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136131

OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V - $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002

Total Price: $939


I need to think this one over...

You can easily put the cost down without sacrificing much (if any) performance by switching to the e8400 and GA-P35-DS3L. You can also get a 8800GT for ~$130 with MIR if you look around.
 
aznpxdd said:
You can easily put the cost down without sacrificing much (if any) performance by switching to the e8400 and GA-P35-DS3L. You can also get a 8800GT for ~$130 with MIR if you look around.

Nice, that gets the price down to about $800! :D
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Spy said:
Do you guys think the 9800GX2 will drastically drop in price when the GTX 260/280 comes out? If not I think I'll be picking up the GTX 260.

I doubt it. I mean, the Ultra is still more expensive than it and it's been nearly two months since it's out.

I'm going to sell mine though maybe, probably $420 and it's has a lifetime warranty for second hand owner.
 

winnarps

Member
Anyone know why I would be getting 1.0 graphics scores in Windows Vista Business 64-bit?

Running with an 8800GT and I have no idea why it's showing up like that.
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Well, other than cleaning your registry and stuff and updated your drivers, I can't see any other problems. It should be 5.9. I would check the fan on the card to see if it's working properly and make sure it's in correctly.
Oh check DXDIAG to make it's working properly.
 

Gattsu25

Banned
Okay, after a bit of reasoning with myself I'm pretty sure I'll be getting the Gateway P-6860FX as my new laptop. It needs to be a gaming rig, and the price is a major issue (I'm on the road, I can't even guarantee that I'll even be in the same state two weeks from now). My decision to spring for a gaming laptop over the meager laptop I'm currently using was a fairly sudden one...and I can't comfortably afford it for another three weeks...

I want to spend no more than $1.5K...pretty fucking expensive considering that I just put together a pretty nice gaming rig and an office capable laptop...but my PC is 6 states south of me (and I can't bring it with me) and my laptop reaches CPU melting temperatures at the WoW splash screen (exaggeration)...I need a fucking gaming laptop...either that or I might just buy a second PS3 or 360 and lug it around with me.

Anyway...

Price $1,249.99
Processor 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5550
Memory 4GB, 667MHz DDR2
Hard drive 320GB 5,400rpm
Chipset Intel GM965
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS 512MB
Operating System Windows Vista Premium (64-bit)
Dimensions (WDH) 15.8x12.2x1.5 inches
Screen size (diagonal) 17.1 inches
System weight / Weight with AC adapter 9.3 / 10.1 pounds
 

aeolist

Banned
Moray said:
That power supply is also extremely overkill. Grab a cheap namebrand 500 W one.
Do not listen to this man. The components that most often fail in a PC are its motherboard and power supply. Don't skimp on the PSU, go with Antec or Corsair or Thermaltake, an decent brand name with a good warranty.
 

Moray

Member
aeolist said:
Do not listen to this man. The components that most often fail in a PC are its motherboard and power supply. Don't skimp on the PSU, go with Antec or Corsair or Thermaltake, an decent brand name with a good warranty.

Yea, like a 430 W Antec Earthwatts for $30 after rebate...

It's not like DC power supplies are complicated technology. All that matters is that it supplies enough juice for the components you're using and has (relatively) stable power lines. But go ahead, fall for all the 700 W ultra power mega gaming supply marketing BS. Those power supplies are designed to get larger profit margins. Others, like Earthwatts, are designed to be efficient.
 

winnarps

Member
Okay, when I install the newest nvidia drivers, it goes through and installs fine, but at the end it has that weird windows vista message that pops up saying it 'detects that the program did not install correctly' and asks if i want to reinstall or if it installed fine.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong here.
 

AZ Greg

Member
winnarps said:
Okay, when I install the newest nvidia drivers, it goes through and installs fine, but at the end it has that weird windows vista message that pops up saying it 'detects that the program did not install correctly' and asks if i want to reinstall or if it installed fine.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong here.

I was having some similar problems and I followed this:

http://www.overclock.net/2401471-post4.html

Fixed the problem.
 

winnarps

Member
AZ Greg said:
I was having some similar problems and I followed this:

http://www.overclock.net/2401471-post4.html

Fixed the problem.

Gonna try that out whenever I can get a chance to restart my computer (I've got a few important things downloading atm).


Another question: I have an old HDD that has a lot of info on it I still want, but it's got Windows XP installed. Is it possible to just hook up the drive to my new rig and have it just show up when I go into My Computer (and be able to pull information from it)? The only reason I ask is that I recycled a few parts from my old computer and can't boot it up again without taking my new one apart.
 

Yogi_bear

Member
Hey guys, quick questions about what's best to do here:

I'm going to be buying a new PC, is it best to get the Q9450 @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 12MB L2 Cache 64-bit and overclock it or better to just pay more money for the QX9650? A bit about what I'm using the PC for, I'm a 3D Character Artist, so I'll be using this for 3d modeling, texture work, and high poly modeling, meaning 3ds Max/Maya, Photoshop, and Zbrush/Mudbox. Money isn't too much of a issue for me since I'm going to be putting dual 9800 GTX's in it and 4 Gb's of DDR3 memory, but the QX9650 is quite a bit more expensive and if I can overclock the Q9450 to get similar performance levels, I'd rather not spend the extra money. Thanks guys.
 
Well, you can easily OC the Q9450 to run faster than the QX9650 at stock speed, but obviously you could OC the QX9650 to go even faster. The Q9450 is limited by its max multiplier (8 or 8.5, I don't remember exactly). Even so it will certainly reach 3.2 with good air cooling, probably 3.4, maybe 3.6 with a little luck.
 
Top Bottom