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Official Doctor Who Series 1, 5, 31, or Fnarg Thread of Moffat & Smith
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Romanes Eunt Domus
The Weeping Angels are seriously the best monster to come out of Nu Who.* Imo, they're better than the Telosian Cybermen.
*Not that there's a lot of competition here...**
**Except for the Abzorbaloff!!***
***And the sex gas from Torchwood!
**Except for the Abzorbaloff!!***
***And the sex gas from Torchwood!
Mama Robotnik
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Regulus Tera said:
I'd give the Vashta Narada second place, and probably the Water from Water of Mars third. Simple is best.
Satan deserves a nod too, its presence in The Impossible Planet was a dark abstract entity of the purest malevolence.
NekoFever
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Just got round to watch it. Fantastic episode. The Angels are by far my favourite Who villains
even if, yeah, they're risking giving them too many powers.
They're really overusing that dramatic musical cue whenever the Doctor's about to do something awesome, though. I thought it was really cool when I heard it in the first episode, but I think I counted it four times in that episode. Keep it for the great moments, please.
apart from Graham Norton
They're really overusing that dramatic musical cue whenever the Doctor's about to do something awesome, though. I thought it was really cool when I heard it in the first episode, but I think I counted it four times in that episode. Keep it for the great moments, please.
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The title for the first episode of the second two-parter is
, according to Doctor Who Magazine.
That's the one with the
. Also, an interview with Nick Briggs hinting at returning monsters for the finale (
).
The Hungry Earth
That's the one with the
Silurians
Daleks and Cybermen
"Why no pictures? Why not show us what to look out for?" (referring to the only handbook about angels written by a madman)Darth Sonik said:Easy Peezy Lemon Squeezy!!!
The photo is an angel, it will move when not being looked at. It doesn't have the electric power or radiation of a monitor, so it cannot project itself out into the world. Therefore it is perfectly safe as long as you don't look directly into its eyes.
Simples!
:lol :lol :lol
"That which holds the image of an angel, become itself an angel."
Direct quote, may have a word or two wrong. ZOMG, inconsistencyyyyyyyy!
Which makes waiting for the next episode even more unbearable!Jexhius said:
And I'm hoping the whole
crack in time and space
Finally, I doubt we'll find out why she carries handcuffs with her next episode.
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lyre said:Finally, I doubt we'll find out why she carries handcuffs with her next episode.
Just give it up. They cannot show that at 6 PM on BBC One.
brain_stew
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Atomic said:
He can't interfere with his own timeline once he sets upon a path but mostly because it would make most stories shit if he could just go back and undo everything whenever he wanted to.
There's all manner of things in Doctor Who that don't make too much sense but just go with it and you'll enjoy the episodes a lot more.
If you're referring to the Time Lords specifically, those events have apparently been 'taken out of time', so they're in a place where no-one can reach them anymore. And undoing calamities he witnessed - witnessed is the important part, there. The episode Father's Day showed that the Doctor can't go back in his own timelines without serious repercussions. Once he's been 'in' somewhere, he can't go back and change his own actions.Atomic said:
Plus, as brain_stew says: it'd be a really boring show if every episode ended with the Doctor travelling back to the start of it.
Finally, wibbly wobbly, timey wimey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw
infiniteloop
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Final figures for Victory of the Daleks is 7.82 million viewers, also 0.381 million watched on BBC HD but it wasn't shown at the same time as BBC 1. 11th most watched program of the week.
Series averages (after first 3 episodes) BARB
Series 5 - 8.77m*
Series 4 - 8.56m
Series 3 - 8.12m
Series 2 - 8.72m
Series 1 - 9.21m
*includes HD for ep 1&2.
Series averages (after first 3 episodes) BARB
Series 5 - 8.77m*
Series 4 - 8.56m
Series 3 - 8.12m
Series 2 - 8.72m
Series 1 - 9.21m
*includes HD for ep 1&2.
JoshuaJSlone
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Ehh, but is it? I don't remember the context of that picture in Blink, but the angel statues themselves were keeping a pretty low profile most of the time; it's easy enough to believe an angel-y picture would do the same.lyre said:
A potential explanation could be the relative strength of the two groups, also. I mean, this is all getting really speculative, but given the 'scavenger' status 11 assigned to Sparrow's Angels, they simply might not've had the strength to do the projection. The pictures were taken post TARDIS-materialization, right?
And I would have serious doubts about it being addressed. Amy's winking instead of blinking was great, though.
And I would have serious doubts about it being addressed. Amy's winking instead of blinking was great, though.
About the Angel Picture:
Those angels were scavengers, barely hanging on. I assume they didn't have the strength to project themselves through the picture. (And it was a conscious decision on the part of the Angel in the Byzantium. He was "getting a better look" at the Doctor, River, and Amy.) Kind of like if I asked you to run a marathon when you hadn't eaten in a week.
That's why they wanted the TARDIS. To energize themselves.
Also, when did that picture appear? (I don't remember.) If it was when Sally got the letter from Kathy, then projecting and killing Sally wouldn't help their goal of getting the TARDIS. (And, one might point, out, they were doing pretty good on their own for that.) If it was after, when she was making the packet to give the Doctor, they were already frozen.
But yeah, bottom line, of course, is that Moffatt hadn't come up with it yet.
Those angels were scavengers, barely hanging on. I assume they didn't have the strength to project themselves through the picture. (And it was a conscious decision on the part of the Angel in the Byzantium. He was "getting a better look" at the Doctor, River, and Amy.) Kind of like if I asked you to run a marathon when you hadn't eaten in a week.
That's why they wanted the TARDIS. To energize themselves.
Also, when did that picture appear? (I don't remember.) If it was when Sally got the letter from Kathy, then projecting and killing Sally wouldn't help their goal of getting the TARDIS. (And, one might point, out, they were doing pretty good on their own for that.) If it was after, when she was making the packet to give the Doctor, they were already frozen.
But yeah, bottom line, of course, is that Moffatt hadn't come up with it yet.
Dr Zhivago
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A simpler explanation is that a photograph has no attached power source to materialise the angel. Maybe it could absorb enough energy after enough time has passed, which is why the book didn't contain any pictures.
Didn't that photo get given to the Doctor by Sally Sparrow anyway? He probably filed it with the Shakespeare Witches and his Agatha Christie collection.
Didn't that photo get given to the Doctor by Sally Sparrow anyway? He probably filed it with the Shakespeare Witches and his Agatha Christie collection.
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Spoilers for episode seven:
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http://i39.tinypic.com/33xa446.jpg
D: Amy nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
http://i43.tinypic.com/24zg9bc.jpg
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D: Amy nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Now that's a MILF!
Dr Zhivago
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Rory's wig looks a bit ridiculous. :lol
Keyser Soze
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Karen is on The Graham Norton Show next Monday... I will watch!!
I hope she attacks him over that stupid advert!
I hope she attacks him over that stupid advert!
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Diablos54 said:Well that was a bit quick. I wonder what went on there? :lol Hopefully it doesn't last too long.Now that's a MILF indeed...
When a boy and a girl like each other, the boy puts his penis inside the girl's vagina.
I really like the look in Rory's and the Doctor's faces, like they are blaming each other but are too afraid to say it out loud.
I really like the look in Rory's and the Doctor's faces, like they are blaming each other but are too afraid to say it out loud.
criesofthepast
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I just watched my first Doctor Who episode ever after hearing about the show for many years now.
I started with The Eleventh Hour just to see if I liked it and I'm pretty much in love with it. The question I have now is where do I go from here? Should I start from series 1 in 2005 (first episode being "Rose") and work my way up to present day?
Are the older shows from the 60's-90's worth watching too? Is it necessary to watch every episode of Doctor Who ever made to understand everything today?
I started with The Eleventh Hour just to see if I liked it and I'm pretty much in love with it. The question I have now is where do I go from here? Should I start from series 1 in 2005 (first episode being "Rose") and work my way up to present day?
Are the older shows from the 60's-90's worth watching too? Is it necessary to watch every episode of Doctor Who ever made to understand everything today?
brain_stew
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criesofthepast said:
I'd just start from the beginning of this new series, once you're upto date start diving into some of Tom Baker's best work.
(The!) Michael Moorcock is writing a new Who novel.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/21/michael-moorcock-doctor-who-...
It's called The Coming of Terraphiles and is apparently 320 pages long.
http://previews.diamondcomics.com/public/default.asp?t=2&m=1&c=23&s=128
It says a May release date but not sure if that's here or England.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/21/michael-moorcock-doctor-who-...
It's called The Coming of Terraphiles and is apparently 320 pages long.
http://previews.diamondcomics.com/public/default.asp?t=2&m=1&c=23&s=128
It says a May release date but not sure if that's here or England.
infiniteloop
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criesofthepast said:
Yeah, start from Rose, there's a lot of good stuff and plot that relates to this season. You don't need to watch the old stuff to know what's going on, but it fills in some background.
In Series 6 news, Gaiman has finished his episode:
http://journal.neilgaiman.com/
criesofthepast said:
That is, well, impossible; a great many earlier episodes were wiped in the early days. The reboot did a good job of explaining pretty much everything that needs to be explained, and most episodes do give adequate backstory, although there's no denying that seeing earlier episodes would clarify things (I'd watch Aliens of London and World War Three - grudgingly - before watching Boomtown, and I'd watch Blink, Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead before the current two-parter; the two-parter easily stands on its own without them, but it adds a lot to them.)
DangerousMali
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less than 24 hours, fuck yeah
Finally watched last week's episode. Mostly fantastic. Loving the new doctor more and more, chemistry with river song is great, Amy winking was brilliant, as was the tension of that scene. Not sure about the angels though. Since when did looking into their eyes turn you into one? And did they turn the lights out before? And why not just walk out of the caves back to back so someone is always looking in every direction?
mclem said:
Meanwhile, I'd skip all three, though I do heartily second your recommendation to watch Blink/Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead before episodes 4 and 5 of this season.
criesofthepast, the thing about classic Who is that none of it is necessary to enjoy the current series. That said, if you enjoy New Who and are ready to tackle some of the classics - with a couple of caveats thrown in about the difference in pacing of classic television and the highly variable quality of the special effects - there's plenty of good (and even more mediocre to awful) material to check out from throughout the history of the show. In particular, many of the Tom "Fourth Doctor" Baker's episodes from the mid-70s Philip Hinchcliffe era, hold up beautifully. Some of the most popular episodes from that run are The Ark in Space, Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death, and especially The Talons of Weng-Chiang. Hinchcliffe also produced two episodes that established a lot of the mythology of Dr. Who, Genesis of the Daleks and The Deadly Assassin.
FnordChan
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It doesn't turn you into one, it's just mind control and hallucinations.mrklaw said:
JoshuaJSlone
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You definitely can't watch them as they originally existed, but this is the type of show with big enough fans that all of those episodes can be found "reconstructed", with the audio track paired with appropriate images based on publicity photos from the episode and whatnot.mclem said:
Mind you, that DOES make watching nearly-50-year-old low-budget sci-fi even less exciting!
KibblesBits
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Diablos54 said:I think they tried at the end of Blink with the light over the TARDIS if I remember right.
And I was wondering if anyone minds making a few .gif avatars from the last episode? Preferably some Amy ones, but I'm not that fussy.
I support this opinion. There need to be Dr Who gifs after each episode!
Just watched the first episode of the new series. I'm new to Doctor Who so this was the first episode I have ever seen.
I heard now was a good time to jump into the series but there were some things I didn't quite understand. Should I watch the previous series to understand what's up? Oh, loved it by the way.
I heard now was a good time to jump into the series but there were some things I didn't quite understand. Should I watch the previous series to understand what's up? Oh, loved it by the way.
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-Mikey- said:Just watched the first episode of the new series. I'm new to Doctor Who so this was the first episode I have ever seen.
I heard now was a good time to jump into the series but there were some things I didn't quite understand. Should I watch the previous series to understand what's up? Oh, loved it by the way.
Not necessarily, but I'd watch it anyway, starting with Rose.
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JoshuaJSlone
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Regardless of whether you start watching the episodes from 1963, 2005, or 2010, there will be things you don't understand and will leave you scratching your head for a while. The Doctor is just always going to be a mysterious figure who's been up to stuff you don't know about. The characters traveling with the Doctor are really in the same boat as a new viewer.-Mikey- said:Just watched the first episode of the new series. I'm new to Doctor Who so this was the first episode I have ever seen.
I heard now was a good time to jump into the series but there were some things I didn't quite understand. Should I watch the previous series to understand what's up? Oh, loved it by the way.
FnordChan said:
I was considering that, but on the other hand, I think Boomtown is in turn important to
give some meaning to the events of Parting of the Ways
That's the interesting thing about Season 1; everything in it, in *some* way (not always important, of course) ties in to the finale.
And that's not even counting Bad Wolf, either
Don't forget, chaps - 6.25 tonight and simulcast on BBC HD (guaranteed lack of cartoon Graham Norton). Moffat, weeping angels, two-parter - this one's bound for greatness.
Charlie Brooker's reaction on You Have Been Watching to that Norton thing was priceless: "It wasn't nothing! Graham Norton fucking walked across Matt Smith's face!" I can really relate to that guy.
Charlie Brooker's reaction on You Have Been Watching to that Norton thing was priceless: "It wasn't nothing! Graham Norton fucking walked across Matt Smith's face!" I can really relate to that guy.
infiniteloop
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