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[dgenx]

wait! Just saw the last part of the last episode.

Im horny

 

[wind_steaker]

I definitely believe that Moffat is not done with the Weeping Angels. He still hasn't explained how they are created.

I dont think we will ever hear that.... this isn't LOST, there are hundreds of races in Dr Who, most of which don't have a creation story.

 

[Linkified]

Right with this talk of regenerations and what not. Don't Timelords in general have a fixed number of regenerations before their body can't regenerate further?

 

[Thomper]

Right with this talk of regenerations and what not. Don't Timelords in general have a fixed number of regenerations before their body can't regenerate further?

In 'old' Who, it's been stated a few times that a Time Lord can regenerate 12 times, so they can have 13 lives. This is currently the 11th Doctor.

... but take all that with a grain of salt. The Master has apparently used up all of his regenerations a bunch of times, now, if I'm not mistaken. If Doctor Who is still a big hit by the time they're up to the 13th Doctor, there's always an easy to simply give him a fresh set of regenerations.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Right with this talk of regenerations and what not. Don't Timelords in general have a fixed number of regenerations before their body can't regenerate further?

In a show where "That's impossible." is often said as that thing is happening, I don't think there's much doubt that they'll work around whatever's been stated in the past.

 

[Raydeen]

In 'old' Who, it's been stated a few times that a Time Lord can regenerate 12 times, so they can have 13 lives. This is currently the 11th Doctor.

... but take all that with a grain of salt. The Master has apparently used up all of his regenerations a bunch of times, now, if I'm not mistaken. If Doctor Who is still a big hit by the time they're up to the 13th Doctor, there's always an easy to simply give him a fresh set of regenerations.

I've always forseen some plotline where the Doctor dies but gets granted a whole recycle of regenerations by the White Guardian or something as his job isn't done yet. Or perhaps he absorbed the power of The Matrix and doesn't have a lifespan....they could just gloss over it and go to 14...15...16 ect with just a throwaway line and not make a big deal out of it. Wonder how they do with the Valeyard?

 

[Hot Coldman]

I bet the Doctor could use his TARDIS to create more regenerations. Somehow.

 

[Thomper]

I've always forseen some plotline where the Doctor dies but gets granted a whole recycle of regenerations by the White Guardian or something as his job isn't done yet. Or perhaps he absorbed the power of The Matrix and doesn't have a lifespan....they could just gloss over it and go to 14...15...16 ect with just a throwaway line and not make a big deal out of it. Wonder how they do with the Valeyard?

I recall an interview with Moffat in which he mentioned not being particularly fond of all the confusing Gallifrey/Time Lord backstory-stuff. Not entirely sure how accurate that is, but I don't expect to hear about the White Guardian or Matrix or Valeyard or anything. The Time War wiped out all that 'confusing' stuff: by the time they get to Doctor 14, they can easily just claim that with there no longer being any other Time Lords, there's unlimited regenerations for the Doctor.

 

[Axiom]

Right with this talk of regenerations and what not. Don't Timelords in general have a fixed number of regenerations before their body can't regenerate further?

I don't think it was ever established that the limit was due to Time Lord physiology, but more just the Time Lord's decided that 12 lifetimes are enough.

[extremenerdingoutfollows)

Which given the age of Hartnell would probably make their lifespan about 11000 years or some such if everyone kept to that.

The limit being self imposed is largely thought due to the fact the Time Lord's offered The Master another set of regenerations. If they were about I can imagine it'd still be a big hard and fast rule (that's easily written around if they were back and it came up again), but with them gone I don't think there's anybody who cares to police that.

I'd guess the limit is just because of stagnation, if everyone is immortal then the people in charge are always the people in charge, a younger generation never takes power and their hats remain forever silly looking. On some level change for a society that powerful is probably better slow as molasses, but every time you see them - right from the beginning, you knew why The Doctor got the fuck out of there.

I also honestly doubt The Rani is ever coming back, The Master is a better evil time lord, Davros is a more interesting mad scientist with no moral compass, and Romana makes for a more fascinating Time Lady so there's not really a lot there to grab onto. Rani is kind of a Terminatrix, it could have been a good idea, but whatever potential it had never showed up on screen.
Now if The Rani had been less of an outrightly obvious villain and actively curing billions with space-cancer because she fucked around with primitive worlds, then you have something unique.

 

[DieNgamers]

Hey there! I just started watching Doctor Who last week and already arrived at season 4. Most entertaining and addicting series ever? Man, it must be close! The first one may still be my favourite but Tennant is just as good!


I'm at the second episode with the

Spoiler

library and the

shadows...Man, it's so scary, funny and awesome at the same time!

 

[infiniteloop]

Hey there! I just started watching Doctor Who last week and already arrived at season 4.

Power of the Daleks is great.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm at the second episode with the

Spoiler

library and the

shadows...Man, it's so scary, funny and awesome at the same time!

That writer is the guy that is in-charge of the whole show now... hooray!

 

[DieNgamers]

That writer is the guy that is in-charge of the whole show now... hooray!

Yeah, he also did the episodes with the "are you my mum" kid, the other one with the strange clockwork guys and "blink", right? I already can't wait. I'm sad that Tennant gets replaced, though.

Power of the Daleks is great.

I liked every episode with the Daleks...That said: I liked every episode except maybe the strange filler one with that blonde guy from Band of Brothers (?) telling the story.

 

[RedShift]

In 'old' Who, it's been stated a few times that a Time Lord can regenerate 12 times, so they can have 13 lives. This is currently the 11th Doctor.

... but take all that with a grain of salt. The Master has apparently used up all of his regenerations a bunch of times, now, if I'm not mistaken. If Doctor Who is still a big hit by the time they're up to the 13th Doctor, there's always an easy to simply give him a fresh set of regenerations.

I don't get how the Doctor lived for 850ish years without using a single regeneration then burnt through 10 in half a century. Surely he'd start to slow down after that. Might want to stop wasting them saving Bernard Cribbins.

 

[infiniteloop]

I liked every episode with the Daleks...That said: I liked every episode except maybe the strange filler one with that blonde guy from Band of Brothers (?) telling the story.

You liked the one about the little girl who could trap people in her drawings? If you can sit through that, you can enjoy any Doctor Who.

I don't get how the Doctor lived for 850ish years without using a single regeneration then burnt through 10 in half a century. Surely he'd start to slow down after that. Might want to stop wasting them saving Bernard Cribbins.

Didn't troughton say he was 450 and Tom baker says he's 750; McCoy says 953 and Smith now says 907. *implode*

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I liked every episode with the Daleks...That said: I liked every episode except maybe the strange filler one with that blonde guy from Band of Brothers (?) telling the story.

Love and Mosters is so bloody awful. Its by far and away the worst episode in the forty-year-history of the show.

 

[Thomper]

I don't get how the Doctor lived for 850ish years without using a single regeneration then burnt through 10 in half a century. Surely he'd start to slow down after that. Might want to stop wasting them saving Bernard Cribbins.

That's what I thought, too, so I looked it up, and... the first Doctor lived to be about 450 years old, apparently. :lol Details on Doctor's age, here: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor's_age

I guess the Doctor just spent his first 400 or so years amongst other Time Lords, not really worrying about his life, and then he got exiled and things started moving a whole lot more quickly. Plus, time got messy for him after that, as he was basically timetravelling entirely from that point on.

 

[DieNgamers]

You liked the one about the little girl who could trap people in her drawings? If you can sit through that, you can enjoy any Doctor Who.

Yes, I liked that one. :lol Wasn't revolutionary or anything but still entertaining.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Love and Mosters is so bloody awful. Its by far and away the worst episode in the forty-year-history of the show.

Respectfully disagree on the grounds that Fear Her and The Doctor's Daughter exist.

Also, Time and the Rani.

 

[Dr Zhivago]

How does a time traveller measure his age anyway?

Apparently, the regeneration limit will be addressed in the SJA episode with Matt Smith.

The only Time Lord I'd like to see again is the Meddling Monk. In fact, he's probably making the cracks. Along with the Myrka.

And Love and Monsters is awesome. :lol


Edit: Bad episodes: Twin Dilemma, Delta & the Bannermen, Timelash...

 

[Mr. Sam]

Doctor's Daughter was fuckawful. Both the episode and the character (largely down to the actress, who made Freema Agyeman look good).

But yeah, you'll love the new series, man!

 

[Tremas]

I thought those androids in Timelash were fairly creepy. They were large and imposing, until they started speaking that is. Rest of that story can go to hell.

As for the dreaded Myrka, we can only hope that it'll find its way into the

Spoiler

silurian

2 parter and beyond.

 

[Alphahawk]

The only Time Lord I'd like to see again is the Meddling Monk. In fact, he's probably making the cracks. Along with the Myrka.



...

While it would be awesome for the time lords to be creating the cracks I kinda doubt that's what's going on.

In America BBC America aired a special entitled "Dr Who the ultamate Guide" The special was intended to catch new viewers up, they spent a good portion explaining the reoccuring villans appearing this year (Daeleks. Cybermen and Weaping Angels) notably absent was The Master.

Spoiler

Given the ending "The End of Time" I find it highly unlikely that the Time Lords would appear without the Master

 

[APZonerunner]

While it would be awesome for the time lords to be creating the cracks I kinda doubt that's what's going on.

In America BBC America aired a special entitled "Dr Who the ultamate Guide" The special was intended to catch new viewers up, they spent a good portion explaining the reoccuring villans appearing this year (Daeleks. Cybermen and Weaping Angels) notably absent was The Master.

Spoiler

Given the ending "The End of Time" I find it highly unlikely that the Time Lords would appear without the Master

Been said before, but Moffat is on record several times slagging off the Time Lords, so the chances of him bringing them back en masse or bringing the whole of Gallifrey back is slim. Easiest place is to find this quote is to go through the episodes of Confidential and commentaries on the series one DVDs - in one of these he says that revealing the Doctor's race and introducing them as recurring characters was the "biggest misstep" the series ever took.

I wouldn't expect him to bring them back. Individuals like The Master, the Rani, the Meddling Monk maybe, but not the Time Lords as a whole, I shouldn't think.

 

[DrForester]

Love and Mosters is so bloody awful. Its by far and away the worst episode in the forty-year-history of the show.

The girlfriend in that episode creeps me out to no end after seeing her play a 15 year old in 2 of the Harry Potter films while she's 40 years old.


Few episodes behind, but figure I'll ask. Have they addressed who the Woman from The End of Time that The Doctor (and others) see was? Or is it still unaddressed/open to interpretation (I've heard people say it's his Mother, others that it's Susan)

 

[DieNgamers]

The girlfriend in that episode creeps me out to no end after seeing her play a 15 year old in 2 of the Harry Potter films while she's 40 years old.

Aaaah! I knew I've seen her before! Thing is, even in most of the (not very common) filler episodes there's still the doctor so I can enjoy them.

 

[DrForester]

Aaaah! I knew I've seen her before! Thing is, even in most of the (not very common) filler episodes there's still the doctor so I can enjoy them.

Yeah she plays the ghost Moaning Myrtle in movies 2 and 4

 

[Dead Man Typing]

Hey there! I just started watching Doctor Who last week and already arrived at season 4. Most entertaining and addicting series ever? Man, it must be close! The first one may still be my favourite but Tennant is just as good!


I'm at the second episode with the

Spoiler

library and the

shadows...Man, it's so scary, funny and awesome at the same time!

Be careful, I was like you, I'd seen one or two episodes in the past, then got a loan of all the DVD's of "new Who" and watched them in rapid succession. It's definitely a great way to watch the show, as you don't spend a week focusing on plot-holes or weak episodes, only the best bits and cool moments stand out and carry over as you marathon into the next episode.

The reason I say be careful, is that once you catch up to the new series and start watching week-to-week, your expectations and sense of entitlement will start to inflate to ridiculous proportions. You'll start to over-think scenarios and rules, characters and plot points, and the 45 minutes each week just isn't enough to satisfy the appetite you've developed through the DVD's. The show may be better now than it's ever been, but my perception of it, is to criticise almost all aspects, even when I see good things now, the bad stay with my just as much. Which wasn't the case when watching on DVD.

Just be aware of this warning when you start on series 5, which is the first season I've watched week-to-week. I loved every episode of series 1-4, even the one's everyone here says they hate.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

The girlfriend in that episode creeps me out to no end after seeing her play a 15 year old in 2 of the Harry Potter films while she's 40 years old.


Few episodes behind, but figure I'll ask. Have they addressed who the Woman from The End of Time that The Doctor (and others) see was? Or is it still unaddressed/open to interpretation (I've heard people say it's his Mother, others that it's Susan)

It'd be better if it was Susan but seeing as how RTD wrote the episode then it's more likely it'd be something that would make the least possible sense.

 

[Blader]

RTD already admitted she was intended to be the Doctor's mother.

 

[mclem]

I've always forseen some plotline where the Doctor dies but gets granted a whole recycle of regenerations by the White Guardian or something as his job isn't done yet. Or perhaps he absorbed the power of The Matrix and doesn't have a lifespan....they could just gloss over it and go to 14...15...16 ect with just a throwaway line and not make a big deal out of it. Wonder how they do with the Valeyard?

The idea I liked was to suggest that there was some sort of monster who 'eats regenerations', and when the Doctor defeats it, he gets all the regenerations it had left - and he doesn't know how many there were.

A thought about the Valeyard:

Spoiler

Didn't Trial of a Timelord take place on Gallifrey? That's now time-locked? How can the future doctor go back to there?

 

[mclem]

Aaaah! I knew I've seen her before! Thing is, even in most of the (not very common) filler episodes there's still the doctor so I can enjoy them.

Always bear this in mind:

Blink was a filler episode.

So was Midnight, but you've got that to look forward to yet.

 

[Alphahawk]

The idea I liked was to suggest that there was some sort of monster who 'eats regenerations', and when the Doctor defeats it, he gets all the regenerations it had left - and he doesn't know how many there were.

A thought about the Valeyard:

Spoiler

Didn't Trial of a Timelord take place on Gallifrey? That's now time-locked? How can the future doctor go back to there?

season four spoiler

Spoiler

that one Dalek went through the Timelock and became insane because of it, just a theory but what if the Doctor had to go back to the time war for some reason and that's how Valeyard was born

 

[Blader]

Always bear this in mind:

Blink was a filler episode.

So was Midnight, but you've got that to look forward to yet.

Midnight was unbelievably good, especially for being a low-budget RTD-penned episode.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Midnight was unbelievably good, because it was a low-budget RTD-penned episode.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Blader]

Fixed that for you.

Just because it was simpler than the big budget episodes doesn't it make any easier to write. It takes real talent to create something compelling and dramatic out of a one room scenario like that. An episode like that could easily be extremely boring.

 

[maharg]

Maybe it was so good *because* it was a one room low budget drama so he couldn't turn it into explosive diarrhea in the last act. That said, I don't actually think it was that amazing personally.

I hope no one's actually pinning any hopes on the Valeyard coming into the story again.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Just because it was simpler than the big budget episodes doesn't it make any easier to write. It takes real talent to create something compelling and dramatic out of a one room scenario like that. An episode like that could easily be extremely boring.

My implication was that because it was not an overblown invasion episode, RTD could focus more on it and make it work, especially because it deals less with plot specifics and more with character drama, which has always been the focus of his work.

 

[Femmeworth]

I'm sure that this has been mentioned before, but I think there is a scene from the finale in The Eleventh Hour. I'm referring to the scene where it shows 7 year old Amy sitting outside and then she hears the Tardis, near the end of the episode. I'm certain that's when The Doctor comes to tell her whatever it is that she is supposed to remember.

Love and Mosters is so bloody awful. Its by far and away the worst episode in the forty-year-history of the show.

I feel like I'm the only person who really enjoyed "Love and Monsters".

 

[Blader]

I'm sure that this has been mentioned before, but I think there is a scene from the finale in The Eleventh Hour. I'm referring to the scene where it shows 7 year old Amy sitting outside and then she hears the Tardis. I'm certain that's when The Doctor comes to tell her whatever it is that she is supposed to remember.

You know, that stuck out to me when I first saw that episode, but I completely forgot about it afterwards. Good catch.

 

[rollingstart]

Just because it was simpler than the big budget episodes doesn't it make any easier to write. It takes real talent to create something compelling and dramatic out of a one room scenario like that. An episode like that could easily be extremely boring.

It is generally easy to create given limitations. It's like that guy said, "if you want to test a man's character, give him power" or something like that.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I feel like I'm the only person who really enjoyed "Love and Monsters".

Love & Monsters was a deliciously clever script that was sadly undermined by a not-geeky-enough main character and a not-cheeky-enough villain. I think it would have worked better if Moaning Myrtle had been the focus of the episode.

On the other hand, the Scooby Doo-style chase was hilarious!

 

[DieNgamers]

Be careful, I was like you, I'd seen one or two episodes in the past, then got a loan of all the DVD's of "new Who" and watched them in rapid succession. It's definitely a great way to watch the show, as you don't spend a week focusing on plot-holes or weak episodes, only the best bits and cool moments stand out and carry over as you marathon into the next episode.

The reason I say be careful, is that once you catch up to the new series and start watching week-to-week, your expectations and sense of entitlement will start to inflate to ridiculous proportions. You'll start to over-think scenarios and rules, characters and plot points, and the 45 minutes each week just isn't enough to satisfy the appetite you've developed through the DVD's. The show may be better now than it's ever been, but my perception of it, is to criticise almost all aspects, even when I see good things now, the bad stay with my just as much. Which wasn't the case when watching on DVD.

Just be aware of this warning when you start on series 5, which is the first season I've watched week-to-week. I loved every episode of series 1-4, even the one's everyone here says they hate.

It's always the same with series and that's why I'll probably wait for the new DVD set to come out...Will be a long wait but well. I can't stand week to week watching, to be honest. However, I'm not the person who thinks too much about an episode after watching it. If I only had the chance to watch them week to week I'd probably lose interest. Sometimes it's like watching a big episode movie but with big gabs this of course wouldn't be the case anymore.

 

[Android18a]

As for the regeneration thing, they should just not mention it until Doctor 13 "dies", expecting to not regenerate at all. When he wakes up as a new man, he's just like "hm. maybe I mis-counted?" and shrug it off until the show is cancelled again in 2037.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

As for the regeneration thing, they should just not mention it until Doctor 13 "dies", expecting to not regenerate at all. When he wakes up as a new man, he's just like "hm. maybe I mis-counted?" and shrug it off until the show is cancelled again in 2037.

That would be completely pointless, as the world and their dog would already know who has been cast as the replacement.

 

[turk128]

Respectfully disagree on the grounds that Fear Her and The Doctor's Daughter exist.

Also, Time and the Rani.

Oh no you didn't... I'm throwing both you and your friend Sam into the crack.

 

[Dr Zhivago]

I can't believe people are spoiler-tagging Trail of a Time Lord. :lol Anyway, it was set on a funky space station, the (rather nice) FX shot of which used up nearly the entire budget for the series.

Spoil-o-speculation :

Spoiler

Apparently Rory wasn't seen during the filming of the Van Gogh episode, leading some to believe he may have had a crack-related mishap. Or maybe just gone home.

 

[mclem]

I can't believe people are spoiler-tagging Trail of a Time Lord. :lol Anyway, it was set on a funky space station, the (rather nice) FX shot of which used up nearly the entire budget for the series.

I wasn't really spoiler-tagging Trial so much of the implications the current series has on Trial. I do like the idea of spoiler-tagging the classics, though.

Spoiler

Susan's grandfather *dies*! But then *doesn't*!

 

[infiniteloop]

Spoiler

Katarina

dies in episode 13.

Spoiler

of Series 3 (1965-1966)

 

[The Elite]

Spoiler above... so tempting.