Society said:Minnie given to Kerry
Alaska to Bush. 21 more.
Diablos said:I thought we weren't going to know about Ohio until Thursday when they got all of the ballots?
I cannot believe this is happening...
Ohio.Nash said:What the hell were you doing voting on gay marriage proposals on the same night as a presidential election anyway?
Call me cynical, but that looks like a good way of motivating the more right-wing voter to come out and vote against it. And those voters would then also vote for Bush at the same time.
Which states had the gay marriage vote, any of the key states like Florida?
Iceman said:talk about drama queens. you guys are hysterical.
MetatronM said:Well, Bush's lead is shrinking, but I don't think it's shrinking fast enough. It's down to just 100,000.
And Kerry is leading Iowa by only 900 votes.
efralope said:Bill Clinton signed the defense of marriage act to pander to "middle america" as well, just like Bush and Kerry are trying to do with positions not to removed from one another actually, but that could be interpreted by their own side as beneficial to their side...
MetatronM said:Well, Bush's lead is shrinking, but I don't think it's shrinking fast enough. It's down to just 100,000.
And Kerry is leading Iowa by only 900 votes.
As far as saying you aren't really going to care either way, consider this: the Bush administration has broken five international treaties in the past four years. What this country considers its strongest allies all give Bush an approval rating less than 10% (save for England, which isn't even high). The debt continues to balloon and Bush hasn't said one word about how he's going to get us out of it and you're going to be (along with the rest of us) paying it off for the rest of your life.
Fuck off. Seriously.Iceman said:talk about drama queens. you guys are hysterical.
BobbyRobby said:We should've let the South seceeded back in the 1860s. So different from the Northeast.
The next four years are pretty critical for the international community, too.Mason said:Unfortunately, this isn't some new video game squabble. This is the future of the United States of America, and it's looking very bleak.
Fixed2BeBroken said:its all those old (45 and up) white people. (not tryna come off as racist, its just my observation)
theres alot of them, you just never see them, they stay at home all day.
but come voting time they come out the wood works and vote for thier bush...and they oblivious to everything else. they just know that they like bush.
while all the young folk arent oblivious to everything and know bush is a bastard and he needs to go, but they dont vote....
<sigh>
what did prop 65 consist of?-jinx- said:Fuck off. Seriously.
In other news, early results from California indicate that 40% (!!!) voted yes on Proposition 65. Those of you in the state should start laughing hysterically now.
You're not cynical. It is a good way of motivating right wing voters. It gets them to the polls even if they weren't going to go to vote for President.Nash said:What the hell were you doing voting on gay marriage proposals on the same night as a presidential election anyway?
Call me cynical, but that looks like a good way of motivating the more right-wing voter to come out and vote against it. And those voters would then also vote for Bush at the same time.
Which states had the gay marriage vote, any of the key states like Florida?
DJ_Tet said:actually they are at work all day, that's about the most uninformed post I've ever read on GA. That's saying a lot since I've been here since 98.
edit---I take that back, I agree with the final part of your post. Young people are unmotivated and lazy when it comes to vote. I'm just barely in the 18-29 group, but when I was 18 I wasn't really concerned with politics. Of course, times were much better under Clinton.
edit2---NBC JUST CALLED OHIO FOR BUSH
MetatronM said:Kerry MUST win every other state to force a tie.
Mashing said:This is sweet nectar to me... the more you guys whine [apparently including me] about Bush winning the fatter I get... keep it up!
Fixed2BeBroken said:its all those old (45 and up) white people. (not tryna come off as racist, its just my observation)
theres alot of them, you just never see them, they stay at home all day.
Society said:Bush wins.
More terrorist attacks. Hopefully they take out Texas this time.
Santo said:This is EXACTLY why Bush is going to win reelection. You're obviously ignorant and haven't read into either sides stances on the issues whatsoever. The difference between these two candidates is as clear as night and day.
As far as saying you aren't really going to care either way, consider this: the Bush administration has broken five international treaties in the past four years. What this country considers its strongest allies all give Bush an approval rating less than 10% (save for England, which isn't even high). The debt continues to balloon and Bush hasn't said one word about how he's going to get us out of it and you're going to be (along with the rest of us) paying it off for the rest of your life.
I could go on all day but it's worthless now. I just don't understand how people can say they don't see a difference in the candidates or that it doesn't really matter who wins. According to a Bush senior adviser speaking to the Wall Street Journal, "We're an empire now, we make our own reality." I suppose nobody cares that all empires in all of history have always fallen. But if you don't mind these neoconservatives in office leading us on the path to destruction, more power to ya brotha.
Iceman said:talk about drama queens. you guys are hysterical.
Nash said:www.BetaVote.com
What if the whole world could vote in the U.S. presidential election?
Final Betavote result:
Kerry 421,770 (88%), Bush 55,242 (11%)