Official Fable II Thread

Zzoram said:
Is there a way to fast travel back to the gypsy camp? I keep getting lost looking for it.

Yeah, there is. I think it is under the Lake section (or something like that). I can't remember the exact wording, though so probably best to check each one, and you'll find the Gypsy camp.
 
Diseased Yak said:
Temple of Shadows question:

I've gotten over 2000 evil points or whatever, but now it says I need to make the ultimate sacrifice at "mystical midnight", what does that entail? I've tried sacrificing another wife but it didn't work.

Also, my husband the Town Crier divorced me for apparently shacking him up in a gypsy wagon. This saddened me because I only came back so I could use him as a sacrifice.

I sacrificed my husband at 12:05 and it worked.
It gave me a worthless weapon. I was pissed.
 
Doytch said:
Just gonna answer this one: "2. What is the combat system like? I can't stand the combat system in FF games, but enjoy the action Kingdom Hearts type." The other is too nebulous for me to tackle.

It's definitely nothing like JRPG combat. Gonna guess you haven't played it, but it really reminds me of the Witcher's combat. So, you know each type of combat is done with one button: melee is x, ranged y, and magic b. At the beginning, the system isn't really that deep; just mash whatever button. But the complexity is added through upgrades. So, the first melee upgrade is block. You hold x to defend. The second is flourishes, which lets you do a cool looking attack when you hold x and let go. Then you get chained attacks, which let you string attacks together if you tap x at the right time. I think there's one or two more, which I haven't gotten yet.

Ranged is similar. You get more abilities that get progressively more complicated to pull off. Magic is a bit different. Basically there's a bunch of spells (I think 8?), and they each have 5 levels. Holding the B button down charges up your spell, but it's done pretty interestingly. For these quick-casts, you get one slot per level, so you can have a time-slow spell in the first slot, a fireball spell in the second, and a shock spell in the third level. If you just tap B, you'll cast the time-slow. If you hold it a while, it'll do the lvl2 fire, and hold it longer to get the shock spell. It's actually pretty elegant, even though I haven't leveled magic up that high.

What I really like about the system is that it doesn't beat you over the head with complexity. Explaining it in text like this probably makes it more complicated than it really is and sort of robs you of the feeling I got though. =p I haven't really bothered with ranged, so it's really easy for me: I just tap away at y to fire my crossbow, or hold it to aim. Basically, you're learning each little move one at a time, making the game flow well and keeps the pacing going very well.

Maybe that was too long.

Thanks! I like it.
 
Result! GAME paid £26 for NHL 08 so I could pick up fable for £14! Now Far Cry looks buyable when I pick up Fallout next week
 
I beat the game last night. I didn't do every side quest or look for all the keys, gargoyles, etc., but I have been doing achievements. Total time for me was 26 hours. Not bad. I'm going to play through it again and this time get everything.
 
Y2Kev said:
Easy purity points: buy every gypsy house, lower rent to -100%.


That is awesome thank you. I was just going to ask.

I zoomed in to my char and noticed she looked like shit. Checked her stats: 110% corrupt!

just for raising the rent 100% on just 2 houses? wow.

They want corrupt? I'll give them corrupt. i'm going to burn down those two houses and
then collect the life insurance from the victims inside.
 
Eggo said:
I beat the game last night. I didn't do every side quest or look for all the keys, gargoyles, etc., but I have been doing achievements. Total time for me was 26 hours. Not bad. I'm going to play through it again and this time get everything.
With spoilers can you tell me how much main story is left after
you head out for the Spire?
Not sure if I want to head out yet as I want to get the most out of the game and I'm afraid I can't come back and do the sidequests.
 
Y2Kev said:
Easy purity points: buy every gypsy house, lower rent to -100%.
Wow. That's a great idea! You don't get much money from them anyway, so why not? Though I guess my corruption is too high. It didn't make much of an impact.


Does anyone know where the last
Treasure of Captain Dread
is hidden? I found 9 out of 10. Can someone post a list of all 10 so I can see what one I missed?
 
CitizenCope said:
With spoilers can you tell me how much main story is left after
you head out for the Spire?
Not sure if I want to head out yet as I want to get the most out of the game and I'm afraid I can't come back and do the sidequests.

Need more info. Are you going for the second hero or have you already gotten the third?
 
xbhaskarx said:
Regarding The Temples of Light / Shadow quests:
If I do either the "Defender of the Light" quest or the "Oakfield Massacre" quest, will the other option no longer be available to me, or can I do both quests?

God damnit. Apparently you can only do one or the other, and I did the one I wouldn't have done if I knew that.

Sucks to be you! On the other hand, now you will be able to see things I couldn't, later in the game.
 
Jasoco said:
Wow. That's a great idea! You don't get much money from them anyway, so why not? Though I guess my corruption is too high. It didn't make much of an impact.

It works over time. Mine was at a 100% but after 20 mins or so it's noticiably down. an hr or two more and you should be ok.
 
CitizenCope said:
With spoilers can you tell me how much main story is left after
you head out for the Spire?
Not sure if I want to head out yet as I want to get the most out of the game and I'm afraid I can't come back and do the sidequests.

To my knowledge, the game doesn't end with the main quest and in fact more sidequests open up after finishing it...
 
Jasoco said:
Does anyone know where the last
Treasure of Captain Dread
is hidden? I found 9 out of 10. Can someone post a list of all 10 so I can see what one I missed?
1) on top of the ship to your left
2) inside the ship to your right
3) swim out to a peninsula that will be on your left as you look out at the ocean
4) jump to the left on the cliff overlooking the waterfall area
5) one buried on island
6) chest on island
7) behind waterfall
8) behind the planks through the tunnel
9) plateau below path that takes you back to main path

Can't remember where the last one is. There's also a key on a plateau to the right of the path that takes you out of the waterfall area.
 
So as of this morning when I got my Garth doll, I officially have everything, including all 1000 Achievement points. It took me about 42 hours to do everything (but I did abuse reset to get all three ending achievements).
 
Eggo said:
Need more info. Are you going for the second hero or have you already gotten the third?

I'm bad with names so I'm about to jump on that boat with that fat chik just after going through those 8 rounds of battles.
 
I got cocky.
I let Charles die while in the Tomb quest. I assume it was possible for him to live? What would I have gotten if I did?

Flyguy said:
1) on top of the ship to your left
2) inside the ship to your right
3) swim out to a peninsula that will be on your left as you look out at the ocean
4) jump to the left on the cliff overlooking the waterfall area
5) one buried on island
6) chest on island
7) behind waterfall
8) behind the planks through the tunnel
9) plateau below path that takes you back to main path

Can't remember where the last one is. There's also a key on a plateau to the right of the path that takes you out of the waterfall area.
Number 5: Buried? On the same island as the other one? How do I know where to dig? Or do I dig or not?
 
There are some definite problems with the "economy" system in the game. The idea that your actions have any effect on things at all is nice and maybe even somewhat novel, but it's ultimately broken when you can make more bartending than you can on being a real estate mogul.

I think it suffers from what the game suffers from in general which is the reversibility of almost all actions. Everything in Fable is instant gratification and nothing is really permanent.

It takes some of the weight out of your actions even if that initial, "Hey, they reacted," is neat. They react predictably every time after that.

I think it shows we have a very long way to go in terms of AI systems.
 
Jasoco said:
Number 5: Buried? On the same island as the other one? How do I know where to dig? Or do I dig or not?
If only there was some gameplay mechanism whereby a dog would tell you were to dig, and you had a shuvel. . .
 
Seth C said:
So as of this morning when I got my Garth doll, I officially have everything, including all 1000 Achievement points. It took me about 42 hours to do everything (but I did abuse reset to get all three ending achievements).

I was told it was an 8 hour game...
 
Y2Kev said:
There are some definite problems with the "economy" system in the game. The idea that your actions have any effect on things at all is nice and maybe even somewhat novel, but it's ultimately broken when you can make more bartending than you can on being a real estate mogul.

I think it suffers from what the game suffers from in general which is the reversibility of almost all actions. Everything in Fable is instant gratification and nothing is really permanent.

It takes some of the weight out of your actions even if that initial, "Hey, they reacted," is neat. They react predictably every time after that.

I think it shows we have a very long way to go in terms of AI systems.

Not true. By the time you are nearing the end of the game, many of your actions will have made irreversible changes to Albion's cities and people. Also, even simple things like murdering people can influence those around you for long periods of time. For example, after murdering a person people reacted poorly to me, called me a murdering, insulted me, even though I was good/pure overall.

You're right on the economy, but keep in mind this isn't an MMORPG. You are the only player in the world. You are the focus of the world. I'm sure they made the work minigames pay so much money so that you'd be encouraged to take an active part in the game rather than sitting back and watching the cash flow in without doing anything. Besides, would you really want them to pay so little that you had to invest 500 hours of gameplay just to own all the buildings? No.
 
neojubei said:
Not too long, but I am shocked someone answered a question in this thread, I thought it was forbidden or something. Your answer helped a lot, and thanks for not being a jerk like some of the people here.
Imagine how easy life would be if there were websites which housed such info!

Next question:
Fable 2 has a dog, but I dont like the dog in Secret of Evermore. How much are they alike???

Also, convince me to wash my socks. I cant think about it right now...
 
Flyguy said:
If only there was some gameplay mechanism whereby a dog would tell you were to dig, and you had a shuvel. . .
No. My dog does not speak up at ALL
on this island. I found the other 9 without even a peep. And I've been in every area of the map. Not one bark.
Yes, I have all 5 books. My dog is 5 star. He should in theory be barking.
 
Y2Kev said:
There are some definite problems with the "economy" system in the game. The idea that your actions have any effect on things at all is nice and maybe even somewhat novel, but it's ultimately broken when you can make more bartending than you can on being a real estate mogul.

I think it suffers from what the game suffers from in general which is the reversibility of almost all actions. Everything in Fable is instant gratification and nothing is really permanent.

It takes some of the weight out of your actions even if that initial, "Hey, they reacted," is neat. They react predictably every time after that.

I think it shows we have a very long way to go in terms of AI systems.

I think they could make it permanent but it sure as shit wouldn't be fun. I mean if you had to wait around for 8 hours while your real estate made money that wouldn't be very fun(plus it would just as easily "break the game" if you made massive amounts of cash for doing nothing - as opposed to playing a minigame where you can rake in the cash but requires some time/effort. Plus if you made no money at minigames the game would also lose "fun" points because you would be struggling to make money.
 
Jasoco said:
No. My dog does not speak up at ALL
on this island. I found the other 9 without even a peep. And I've been in every area of the map. Not one bark.
Yes, I have all 5 books. My dog is 5 star. He should in theory be barking.

huh. maybe you need your pooch to have level 5 treasure hunting. mine did. I'm almost positive one of them was buried, though it's possible I'm wrong and it didn't count towards the 10 of 10.
 
Seth C said:
Sucks to be you! On the other hand, now you will be able to see things I couldn't, later in the game.

ack! When are you unable to change? I did the quest that lets me get into the Temple of Shadow...that's it

I'm not offered anything form the Temple of light, did I just force myself down a path of evil?
 
Flyguy said:
huh. maybe you need your pooch to have level 5 treasure hunting. mine did. I'm almost positive one of them was buried, though it's possible I'm wrong and it didn't count towards the 10 of 10.
He is level 5 treasure hunter. Level 4 combat. (Gotta get that last book.)
 
Dunlop said:
ack! When are you unable to change? I did the quest that lets me get into the Temple of Shadow...that's it

I'm not offered anything form the Temple of light, did I just force myself down a path of evil?

No, you're fine. You can do both and get both weapons. At one point later in the game though, you will have two parallel quests show up in your game, and it will be obvious if you think about it that doing one is in direct opposition to the other.
 
Seth C said:
No, you're fine. You can do both and get both weapons. At one point later in the game though, you will have two parallel quests show up in your game, and it will be obvious if you think about it that doing one is in direct opposition to the other.

cool thanks, of course I thought I just received a free pass to start slaughtering everyone :lol
 
Btw it took me 13 hours in to "run into" Fairfax Gardens.:lol
The map just sucks so bad I can never tell by the map where I've been and where I haven't. Guess I never strolled down that street just off Market Square in those 13 hours.
 
Ok GAF I haven't really read through all of this thread, but would you all reccommend that I buy this game? What are the biggest complaints? What are the most surprising (in the positive sense of the word) aspects?
 
Seth C said:
No, you're fine. You can do both and get both weapons. At one point later in the game though, you will have two parallel quests show up in your game, and it will be obvious if you think about it that doing one is in direct opposition to the other.
I saved the TOL...now what is this about weapons?
 
CitizenCope said:
Btw it took me 13 hours in to "run into" Fairfax Gardens.:lol
The map just sucks so bad I can never tell by the map where I've been and where I haven't. Guess I never strolled down that street just off Market Square in those 13 hours.

It was the same way for me. I wondered why I would have that archaeology quest for hours before I'd been to the area. So annoying.

ShinAmano said:
I saved the TOL...now what is this about weapons?

Yo get the weapon from the Temple of Light you need to make several donations, have them talk about becoming the Harvest Benefactor, then donate 10,000 gold between noon and 1pm. However to be honest, if you are that far I don't know how much good the weapon will do you. It does look cool though.
 
Flyguy said:
huh. maybe you need your pooch to have level 5 treasure hunting. mine did. I'm almost positive one of them was buried, though it's possible I'm wrong and it didn't count towards the 10 of 10.
FOUND IT!

It wasn't buried. It was in the water.
:lol
 
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