Official Fable II Thread

EvaPlusMinus said:
Anyone knows if your able to get ALL of the items from the flash game, or does it just give you one?


Thanks in advance
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Yes, you can get them all. Only the crowns matter in the choices, though so it doesn't matter what you choose before that.
 
dork said:
well you apparently didnt want to give them your money pre-release to secure a limited edition

if you want the game that badly and its a collectors, how does it hurt you to put 5 bucks down?
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I think the point is, if they have LEs that are not reserved for pre-orders, why wouldn't they sell them today?

The answer is because they're stupid.
 
Billen said:
One of the main things in fable is the appearance of the character changing according to the players behaviour. Another thing that Molyneux told people about was the lack of armor, because everyone dressed in the same armor and without it everyone could dress the way THEY want.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool, it's just that there don't seem to be a wide enough variety of clothes in the game. You can change clothes pretty easily, so having an armor with a different set of bonuses (and disadvantages in town, like "scary", which some outfits already have) would have worked imo. Not that I miss armor, I just want more clothes.
 
soldat7 said:
Do any of you people bother with single-player games anymore? Sheesh...
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So what if they don't? That's their prerogative.

Half of the single-player games I play, I play "co-op" with someone in the room with me. It makes games more fun for some people.
 
dork said:
well you apparently didnt want to give them your money pre-release to secure a limited edition

if you want the game that badly and its a collectors, how does it hurt you to put 5 bucks down?
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There is no reason to pre order a game these days. Unless there is special incentives you want from a publisher. It aint like it used to be. The industry is far more mainstream, you can go into gas stations and buy games. Retailers stock up on so many copies, and so many additional non-traditional retailers carry games, everything is generally available.

But that's not the point here anyway.

It's rotten that you can have product visible behind you and refuse to sell to someone who didn't opt into your pre order program. That's just generating ill will. Consumers have choices now. So now I'll choose to spend my money elsewhere this time, your loss GS.
 
DoctorWho said:
Will I be able to unlock the extra LE content at any time or do I need to download the content early in the game to enjoy the benefits?
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Do it asap, I would suggest.

As the Masterchief suit/armor and his weapon are located in a chest early on in the game. I've only just reached that stage myself, and I know once some people have passed this chest they can't figure out how to get back there (though I would assume it would have to be possible).
 
Poona said:
Do it asap, I would suggest.

As the Masterchief suit/armor and his weapon are located in a chest early on in the game. I've only just reached that stage myself, and I know once some people have passed this chest they can't figure out how to get back there (though I would assume it would have to be possible).
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That sucks considering I don't have the LE content code... :( Stupid MS.
 
John Harker said:
There is no reason to pre order a game these days. Unless there is special incentives you want from a publisher. It aint like it used to be. The industry is far more mainstream, you can go into gas stations and buy games. Retailers stock up on so many copies, and so many additional non-traditional retailers carry games, everything is generally available.

But that's not the point here anyway.

It's rotten that you can have product visible behind you and refuse to sell to someone who didn't opt into your pre order program. That's just generating ill will. Consumers have choices now. So now I'll choose to spend my money elsewhere this time, your loss GS.
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I'm not understanding the issue, are they not selling it to you because they are already reserved by people who pre-ordered?

That's the only thing that makes sense, if they were unreserved copies by the logic you are stating then they will never sell them to anyone.
 
Ha ha, it isn't a release day thread without the obligatory "I am morally outraged and have canceled my pre-order! GOOD DAY TO YOU, SIR!" posts. It IS disappointing that coop is gimped, but I never had much interest in it. I think what I find a bit more annoying is the fact that Molyneux can't keep his gob shut and ends up hyping things that are either scaled back or removed entirely from the final release. Oh well, he still makes great games and it's not like he's the only developer guilty of it. It seems to be a symptom of the current industry.

That said, I'm still gonna buy Fable 2 after work. I really enjoyed the first game despite its shortcomings, so I'm really pumped for the sequel. I can't wait to be a fat lesbian!
 
John Harker said:
There is no reason to pre order a game these days. Unless there is special incentives you want from a publisher. It aint like it used to be. The industry is far more mainstream, you can go into gas stations and buy games. Retailers stock up on so many copies, and so many additional non-traditional retailers carry games, everything is generally available.

But that's not the point here anyway.

It's rotten that you can have product visible behind you and refuse to sell to someone who didn't opt into your pre order program. That's just generating ill will. Consumers have choices now. So now I'll choose to spend my money elsewhere this time, your loss GS.
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well apparently there was a reason? because you didnt get one.

I work there and I can tell you we do NOT overstock like we used to. When we were actually EBgames we got alot of extra copies of games. Limited editions were in very short demand and everyone on this board knew that. Let me tell you if you have a ps3, you will learn this first hand. We got 6 copies of bioshock on the ps3. 6! Because nobody pre orders games on ps3, and that is what our shipment is dependent on. If nobody pre orders gears of war 2 for example, even if it is a huge game we wont get more than 12 copies. How do you know they were extras?

LunaticPuma said:
I think the point is, if they have LEs that are not reserved for pre-orders, why wouldn't they sell them today?

The answer is because they're stupid.
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wrong, my store had extras, we sold them to whoever. maybe they were pre ordered, how do you know?

we had 2 extra limited's, so i know most stores didnt have extras

edit- but im going to stop ruining the fable thread by arguing about what retailer you prefer
 
I actually get why this has been done like this. I was under the impression that it was a technical hurdle they didn't have to tools or the time to undertake...but reading though this thread, I've come to the definite conclusion that it was a part of the game design (I am talking about not being able to take your character into another player's game, not same screen co-op).

This game has a lot to do with your character developing because of the decisions he makes though the game, and the world changing around him because of these decisions. How would you be able to do that if you play though sections of the game through your friend's game if you're your own hero? It just makes sense for you to be a henchman. Also, it allows the host game to retain the level of difficulty and gameplay that the host player is supposed to have. If you do it where some highly leveled character enters your game and the enemies level to match, you're saying back and doing nothing because the high level character is the only one able to take them on. Or, if it doesn't level up the enemies, the high level character is just killing everybody and you're left doing nothing, ruining your experience.

To compensate for the fact that you want your friend with you when you play, with you both experiencing the same things story wise, you have the orb system. It just makes sense.

People should think about the game design, and what kind of game Fable 2 is.
 
Just played about 3 hours.
The game is an 11/10 so far.
The city at the beginning is quite simply the most extraordinary ambiance i have experienced in a video game since playing OoT for the first time.
And the dog is ace. He looks totally stupid like only dogs know how to. I christened it "Asshat". What's the name of yours ?
 
zaidr said:
I actually get why this has been done like this. I was under the impression that it was a technical hurdle they didn't have to tools or the time to undertake...but reading though this thread, I've come to the definite conclusion that it was a part of the game design (I am talking about not being able to take your character into another player's game, not same screen co-op).

This game has a lot to do with your character developing because of the decisions he makes though the game, and the world changing around him because of these decisions. How would you be able to do that if you play though sections of the game through your friend's game if you're your own hero? It just makes sense for you to be a henchman. Also, it allows the host game to retain the level of difficulty and gameplay that the host player is supposed to have. If you do it where some highly leveled character enters your game and the enemies level to match, you're saying back and doing nothing because the high level character is the only one able to take them on. Or, if it doesn't level up the enemies, the high level character is just killing everybody and you're left doing nothing, ruining your experience.

To compensate for the fact that you want your friend with you when you play, with you both experiencing the same things story wise, you have the orb system. It just makes sense.

People should think about the game design, and what kind of game Fable 2 is.
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This doesn't explain the janky shared-screen camera.
 
zaidr said:
To compensate for the fact that you want your friend with you when you play, with you both experiencing the same things story wise, you have the orb system. It just makes sense.
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This. The orb system is literally perfect for a game like this.

Makes you wonder why they added the "can't play as your own char and you share a camera" co-op.
 
joelseph said:
My coworker just bought me a copy! Man I love that guy.
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Nice, my buddy bought me ShadowRun once back when it came out, I had no freaking clue why...In the end I played that game like crazy.

I'm dying to get home to play Fable but forgot I have Aikibudo class tonight so won't be back until late : (

I didn't pick up the LE because of the problems I was reading about the missing codes and the extra's didn't seem too great. I have one last chance to exchange the copy before I leave work...Should I do it?

I had no fucking idea what Aikibudo was either until my buddy had me sign up with him...think aikido with swords
 
zaidr said:
Also, it allows the host game to retain the level of difficulty and gameplay that the host player is supposed to have. If you do it where some highly leveled character enters your game and the enemies level to match, you're saying back and doing nothing because the high level character is the only one able to take them on. Or, if it doesn't level up the enemies, the high level character is just killing everybody and you're left doing nothing, ruining your experience.
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And scaled leveling wouldn't work? In other words, if I invite my uber friend into my world, it could just scale him down to my level - problem solved.
 
Dunlop said:
Nice, my buddy bought me ShadowRun once back when it came out, I had no freaking clue why...In the end I played that game like crazy.

I'm dying to get home to play Fable but forgot I have Aikibudo class tonight so won't be back until late : (

I didn't pick up the LE because of the problems I was reading about the missing codes and the extra's didn't seem too great. I have one last chance to exchange the copy before I leave work...Should I do it?

I had no fucking idea what Aikibudo was either until my buddy had me sign up with him...think aikido with swords
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I'm jealous. You guys have some awesome friends. I got my friend Bioshock for his birthday and when mine rolled around... :'(
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
So this is actually IN STORES today? Not just "shipped" or whatever the fuck they call it?
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Yeah, if you ever go into gamestop and look at the book of new releases

if the game says ---SD and then a date thats the day it will be in store 100% that day listed next to SD

otherwise yeah, its the dumb shipped day thing :)

But its out :)
 
Piper Az said:
This doesn't explain the janky shared-screen camera.
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zaidr said:
(I am talking about not being able to take your character into another player's game, not same screen co-op)
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Aurora said:
And scaled leveling wouldn't work? In other words, if I invite my uber friend into my world, it could just scale him down to my level - problem solved.
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Ok, so what you're saying is, just have the same thing as the henchman system here, but have it so he looks like the custom made character. But doesn't your character look different based on the things he does? If he can't do the stuff he leveled up to do, when whats the point? Just a cosmetic difference, as its been said before in this thread.
 
Wonder how many children you can have in game...

Is there an achievement for "one with every maiden"????
 
Jugendstil said:
I think what I find a bit more annoying is the fact that Molyneux can't keep his gob shut and ends up hyping things that are either scaled back or removed entirely from the final release.
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I am 100 % convinced he will do the same with his next game, and that a lot of people will buy into it completely - again (including a good number of people now going "oh, I'll never fall for that again, Molyneux!"). Which is expected, because so many people WANT everything he says to be true as he usually makes it sound so awesome and ambitious. He's like a PR machine. :)
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
So this is actually IN STORES today? Not just "shipped" or whatever the fuck they call it?
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I just picked my copy up at Circuit City over lunch, and if THEY have it, EVERYBODY has it.
 
Kiriku said:
I am 100 % convinced he will do the same with his next game, and that a lot of people will buy into it completely - again (including a good number of people now going "oh, I'll never fall for that again, Molyneux!"). Which is expected, because so many people WANT everything he says to be true as he usually makes it sound so awesome and ambitious. He's like a PR machine. :)
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He is. I have been playing into for years myself. Damn his charm!
 
Putting more hours into the game and...well, it's easy as shit. That's kind of a problem for me. The mobs are easy and non-aggressive (even the "elite" ones) and making everyone like/hate you is just as easy. In-between towns up to this point, it's kind of empty as well. I explore around and it's just empty areas with some chests thrown in.

The sheen as worn off but I'm hoping more subquests and the main quests help me enjoy this more.
 
zaidr said:
Ok, so what you're saying is, just have the same thing as the henchman system here, but have it so he looks like the custom made character. But doesn't your character look different based on the things he does? If he can't do the stuff he leveled up to do, when whats the point? Just a cosmetic difference, as its been said before in this thread.
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That cosmetic difference is one of the big selling points of the game. Having the character's look, stats and equipment ported into the game. There's no technical hurdles to overcome other than sending a small file to the host that says what the character looks like and what gear he has. All the graphics are already in the game!

It's been done in plenty of games before... I realize there has to be a host player and the storyline is told through that character (because otherwise you'd have to rewrite dialogue and plot points, so it makes sense to ghost the other character out), but it just reeks of "rushed feature" that the second player can't at least look like his own character from his save file... even if he doesn't become more good/evil throughout the course of the co-op game, you should at least be able to bring your character over from your save file, along with bringing back loot that you found during the co-op game. It's really disappointing.

People just don't want to play the pregenerated characters that Lionhead are sticking you with, since it goes against this whole game's philosophy. It's also like: if in Diablo II co-op, players could only play the henchman characters that you could hire instead of rolling their own characters. That's a huge difference. Instead, you get to choose between spear man, amazon lady or caster dude.
 
Has anyone confirmed the result of the pub game glitch on your character if any? Thanks. The game is sitting in my car right now...only 4 & 1/2 hours to go before I can play. :D
 
Y2Kev said:
I think I can marry this woman like 20 seconds into the game. It's easy to impress people.
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Noticed that as well. Although I had two women I was trying to impress and one walked off after a bit while the other was fully in love pretty quick.
 
Haeleos said:
That cosmetic difference is one of the big selling points of the game. Having the character's look, stats and equipment ported into the game. There's no technical hurdles to overcome other than sending a small file to the host that says what the character looks like and what gear he has. All the graphics are already in the game!

It's been done in plenty of games before... I realize there has to be a host player and the storyline is told through that character (because otherwise you'd have to rewrite dialogue and plot points, so it makes sense to ghost the other character out), but it just reeks of "rushed feature" that the second player can't at least look like his own character from his save file... even if he doesn't become more good/evil throughout the course of the co-op game, you should at least be able to bring your character over from your save file, along with bringing back loot that you found during the co-op game. It's really disappointing.

People just don't want to play the pregenerated characters that Lionhead are sticking you with, since it goes against this whole game's philosophy. It's also like: if in Diablo II co-op, players could only play the henchman characters that you could hire instead of rolling their own characters. That's a huge difference. Instead, you get to choose between spear man, amazon lady or caster dude.
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Hit the nail on the head, bro. I bolded the good parts.

Throughout all this, all I can think about while I'm here at work is just getting home and being able to keep working on sidequests. The game is fun, no doubt. I think that if I could just get my "can't talk to friends" issue solved, I would be satisfied. That's all I'm asking for!
 
gnarkill bill said:
picky, picky, picky. Im sorry but I find that ridiculous. You're missing out on a great Singleplayer game.
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Totally legit concerns. He wanted to play the game with his gf and he cant do it they way he thought he would be able to.

Game looks great. I will be renting instead of buying now though. I really wanted a true drop in coop with other players. Singleplayer should be fun though. Its funny how people in this thread call others ridiculous because they wont buy the game because of the lack of coop. I was really hyped about this game and I thought my friends and I could progress our characters together in the game and see each other. Fable 2 is a great rpg but some people were looking to fully featured coop as the selling point. Is that so ridiculous?
 
The henchman vs your char thing is a shame (if nothing else, they should look like you). I must admit that I'm not too worried about the shared screen thing though... would be a hell of a lot better if you could control the camera independently though.

The people complaining about what Molyneux promised this time... what exactly did he promise? Think carefully because his PR handlers allowed him to say next to nothing. Assumptions made by us doesn't mean something said by him.
 
Y2Kev said:
I think I can marry this woman like 20 seconds into the game. It's easy to impress people.
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One of the 1UP podcasts, I think, made a similar point recently. One of the guys said they were able to marry someone almost virtually off the bat because she was instantly wooed. Goes well with Fable's goofy nature. :P

I called my local Gamestop this morning and they said they had 10 copies of Fable 2 left. The guy said they might get a shipment of more today, but wasn't sure. Hopefully there will still be a few copies left when I get off from work.
 
wifey picked up the LE for me at best buy. i want to play this shit SO FREAKING BAD, but A)i'm sick as fuck and B)feel guilty as all hell for ditching class due to point A.
 
I am considering going out and renting another copy and seeing if proximity voice with friends works with this other disc.

If so, then I'd do the swap-a-roo.

GAF, your opinion (on whether or not this would work - the fixing the problem part).
 
Psychotext said:
The henchman vs your char thing is a shame (if nothing else, they should look like you). I must admit that I'm not too worried about the shared screen thing though... would be a hell of a lot better if you could control the camera independently though.

The people complaining about what Molyneux promised this time... what exactly did he promise? Think carefully because his PR handlers allowed him to say next to nothing. Assumptions made by us doesn't mean something said by him.
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I really don't see how any of this was misconstrued when there were on-stage demos and videos of said demos. He said in those that the henchman would be "based on" the 2nd player's character. Last time I checked, based on doesn't mean "is or exact". You could even see how the camera would work in those videos. The only thing I was surprised about was about not being able to bring in your weapons. Other than that, nothing was shocking to me.
Cocopjojo said:
GAF, your opinion (on whether or not this would work - the fixing the problem part).
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It's worth a go I would think. Has anyone else posted that they aren't able to talk to their friends too? Or are able to talk to their friends?
 
PhatSaqs said:
Everyone about to jump in: once you get your bearings try playing with the gold trail off. Adventuring and discovery things this way is pretty damn awesome IMO.
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Actually, I'd recommend keeping the gold trail on, just so you have an indicator of where your next quest objective is, and then intentionally avoiding it so that you can more easily explore the surrounding areas without retracing your steps or accidentally passing up nearby treasure.

I keep it on, but use it as a guide as to where NOT to go, and then when I've explored everything around it, then I finally proceed with following the trail.
 
xS1TH L0RDx said:
wifey picked up the LE for me at best buy. i want to play this shit SO FREAKING BAD, but A)i'm sick as fuck and B)feel guilty as all hell for ditching class due to point A.
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If you're sick the you're sick. Play it to your advantage and soak up all the game you can get in, man.
 
LunaticPuma said:
I think the point is, if they have LEs that are not reserved for pre-orders, why wouldn't they sell them today?

The answer is because they're stupid.
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Why not get it from Circuity City? Just bought the LE, plus they give you a $15 iTunes card for free. So it's win-win :D
 
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