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Following the withdrawal of Honda from the sport in December 2008, Jenson was left without a drive for the 2009 season, until Ross Brawn led a management buyout of the team in February 2009, and Button suddenly found himself in a highly competitive, Mercedes-engined car. He went on to win six of the first seven races of the 2009 season, equalling a record achieved by only two other drivers: Michael Schumacher and Jim Clark. At the Brazilian Grand Prix, he amassed enough points over his rivals to secure the 2009 World Drivers' Championship, while also helping Brawn GP to secure the World Constructors' Championship in its maiden season.

2009 season recap

The season was split into two halves, with the newly-formed Brawn GP dominating the first half of the season with successive wins, partially due to the team's double diffuser design, while the latter half saw an improved showing from Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren as they adapted to the new regulations. Jenson Button was able to capitalise on Brawn's advantage in the early rounds winning six of the first seven races, to give him his first World Championship. Sebastian Vettel and Button's team-mate Rubens Barrichello were his main challengers over the season, winning six races between them to finish in second and third respectively.

Button won the season opening Australian race, with team-mate Rubens Barrichello in second, giving the team a 1–2 on its début. Red Bull's Vettel had been running in second until he collided with BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica. The accident meant the race finished behind the Safety Car, with Toyota's Jarno Trulli eventually classified third despite McLaren Mercedes false protest he had overtaken Lewis Hamilton illegally. Reigning champion Hamilton was disqualified from the Australian race for lying to the stewards and at the following Malaysian Grand Prix was the centre of attention, with reports he was on the verge of quitting. There was further intrigue away from the race track as the FIA deemed the controversial double diffusers used by Brawn, Williams and Toyota legal. The race was equally dramatic, being stopped because of monsoon-like conditions, meaning only half points were awarded for only the fifth time in F1 history. Button mastered the changing conditions for his second win. The Chinese race also took place in wet conditions, this time Vettel lead team-mate Mark Webber home to the team's first ever win ahead of the two Brawns. A return to dry conditions in the following four races allowed Button to re-assert his authority, winning in Bahrain, Spain, Monaco and Turkey. Button had opened up a 26 point lead on his teammate with Vettel, who crashed out in Monaco and made a mistake while leading in Turkey, a further six points behind.

The British Grand Prix was seen as a turning point, being dominated by Red Bull with Vettel leading home Webber, in dry conditions. Button was not on the podium for the first time this season, finishing sixth. Red Bull also dominated the following German Grand Prix with Webber taking his first pole, and going on to win the race, despite being given a drive through penalty. Ferrari were also showing signs of improvement, Felipe Massa finishing third in what would be his final race of the season. He was hospitalised after being hit on the helmet by a flying spring when he was travelling at 162 mph in qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix. The accident overshadowed the race which was won by Lewis Hamilton. Ferrari announced Massa would be replaced by test driver Luca Badoer, after a proposed comeback by seven time World Champion Michael Schumacher was called off due to a neck injuries. Giancarlo Fisichella in-turn replaced the disappointing Badoer after a remarkable second place at Spa for Force India.

The European Grand Prix in Valencia and Belgian Grand Prix provided first wins of the season for Rubens Barrichello and Kimi Räikkönen respectively as Button's title charge was undermined by poor qualifying performances. Brawn briefly returned to form in Italy, with Barrichello leading home the team's fourth 1-2 of the season. With Webber literally crashing out of the title race under the lights in Singapore Grand Prix, Vettel kept his slim hopes of the Drivers Championship alive with a dominant display in the Japanese Grand Prix with Toyota's Trulli gaining what would prove to be Toyota's final podium before their withdrawal at the end of the season.

The Drivers and Constructors Championships were both decided at the penultimate race in Brazil. After a poor wet qualifying session for Button, which saw him start from fourteenth, he fought up to fifth during the race gaving him enough points to clinch the title. The race itself was won by Mark Webber, followed by Robert Kubica to give BMW Sauber their best result of their final season (other than Heidfeld's second place in the rain shortened Malaysian Grand Prix) and his only podium result of the season. Lewis Hamilton completed the top three after starting 17th on the grid, moving him and McLaren above Kimi Raikkonen and Ferrari respectively in the Championships. The inaugural Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, taking place at sunset, rounded out the season, with another win for Vettel and Red Bull's fourth 1-2 result of the year, rounding of their strongest season to date.

Key news and info for 2010

New teams


  • Campos Meta 1, Spanish-based GP2 team led by former racing driver Adrián Campos, who lodged an entry for his Campos Racing team in conjunction with Meta Image.
  • Virgin Racing, headed by F3 owner John Booth and former team owner Nick Wirth was an unknown entrant until the FIA published the 2010 entry list on 12 June 2009. The team was originally entered as Manor Grand Prix prior to Virgin's investment.
  • US F1 Team, a group led by designer Ken Anderson and former Williams employee Peter Windsor.
  • Lotus F1 Racing, a partnership between the Malaysian government and a consortium of Malaysian entrepreneurs. Mike Gascoyne, whose previous Lotus entry with Litespeed was unsuccessful will be the technical director.

Team changes

  • In June 2009, three new teams were selected to join the grid for the 2010 season; US F1 Team, Campos Meta and Manor Grand Prix. Manor Grand Prix later announced they will be competing under the name Virgin Racing, confirming months of speculation that the team would be sponsored by Richard Branson's Virgin Group.
  • On 29 July 2009, BMW Sauber announced their withdrawal from Formula One at the end of the 2009 Formula One season, citing a lack of future viability and sustainability for the Formula One program. BMW originally were granted the reserve spot on the grid after a proposed buy out by Qadbak Investments,however on 27 November, the team was sold back to Peter Sauber. The FIA officially accepted the team to the 2010 grid under the name BMW Sauber on 3 December, using Ferrari engines.
  • Following the withdrawal of BMW Sauber, the FIA announced their vacant grid position would be filled by Lotus F1 Racing, run by Tony Fernandes and Mike Gascoyne, with backing from the Malaysian government.
  • Toyota announced their withdrawal from Formula One on 4 November 2009, due to economic hardship. After announcing they would not sell the team on, their grid slot went to the Sauber team.
  • Scuderia Toro Rosso will become an independent constructor for 2010, instead of having their chassis supplied by Red Bull Technologies. This allowed the team to purchase customer chassis, despite the concept being banned, due to the chassis being supplied by a design studio. This rule is being amended in time for 2010, meaning that the season will be the first in which Toro Rosso run their own car, having spent most of 2009 expanding their base of operations in Faenza, Italy to accommodate production facilities.
  • On November 16, it was announced that Brawn GP would be renamed Mercedes Grand Prix for the 2010 season onwards, ending speculation that their fifteen-year relationship with McLaren was about to come to an end, with the German manufacturer buying a 75.1% controlling stake in the team. McLaren will purchase Mercedes' 40% stake in the McLaren Group before the 2011 season, but Mercedes will continue to supply McLaren engines and sponsorship until 2015. On December 21, it was further announced that the Mercedes Grand Prix team had signed a sponsorship deal with Petronas, and would be renamed Mercedes GP Petronas Formula One Team.
  • Responding to speculation that they would join BMW and Toyota in withdrawing, Renault initially denied that they would take the opportunity and instead assess their position, with a full announcement expected before the end of 2009. However, on December 4 it was confirmed that Renault had several offers for the team, and on December 16 the sale was confirmed. The team was purchased by Luxembourg-based investment banker Gerard Lopez and his Genii Capital investment company. Under the terms of the deal, Renault will retain a 25% minority holding, while the team will continue to race under the Renault name. The deal leaves open the possibility for Renault to regain complete ownership of the team and continue to run it once the global economic situation has stabilised.

Driver changes

  • Giancarlo Fisichella will become Ferrari's reserve and test driver in 2010, having left Force India and joined Ferrari towards the end of 2009 as a substitute for the injured Felipe Massa. However, Ferrari announced that Fisichella could be loaned out to another team if he is offered a race seat.
  • Fernando Alonso will leave Renault to drive for Ferrari in 2010, replacing Kimi Räikkönen who left the team at the end of the 2009 season. Alonso has signed a three year deal up to the end of 2012, with options for further years.
  • Robert Kubica will leave BMW Sauber to drive for Renault in 2010, as a replacement for Alonso.
  • Nico Rosberg left Williams at the end of the 2009 season after four years with the team, moving to Mercedes Grand Prix.
  • Rubens Barrichello will move from Brawn to Williams.
  • Timo Glock officially joined Virgin Racing on 17 November 2009. Glock had previously been signed to Toyota, but the Japanese team had elected not to take up the option on his contract as early as the 2009 Singapore Grand Prix, leaving Glock as a free agent.
  • Jenson Button will join Lewis Hamilton at McLaren following the failure to negotiate a contract with Mercedes Grand Prix, which bought out his 2009 team, Brawn GP. This will mean that McLaren have signed the two most-recent World Champions, and will have the sport's first double-champion line-up since Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost, also driving for McLaren, in 1989.
  • Jarno Trulli will move from Toyota to Lotus F1 Racing.
  • Heikki Kovalainen will be Trulli's team-mate at Lotus F1 Racing, after leaving McLaren.
  • Kamui Kobayashi, who made his debut for the now-defunct Toyota team at the end of 2009 covering for the injured Timo Glock, will move to the newly-revived Sauber team.
  • Bruno Senna, nephew of three-time World Champion Ayrton Senna, will join Campos Meta in 2010, returning the Senna name to Formula One sixteen years after his uncle's death.
  • Nico Hülkenberg, 2009 GP2 Series champion, will make his debut in Formula One with Williams, alongside Barrichello.
  • Lucas Di Grassi, who placed third in the 2009 GP2 Series, will partner Timo Glock at Virgin Racing.

Calendar changes

  • The British Grand Prix was due to move from Silverstone Circuit to Donington Park in 2010, but on October 23, 2009, the owners of Donington Park admitted that plans to raise £135 million through a bond had failed. After extended negotiations with Bernie Ecclstone, the organisers of the Silverstone circuit came to an agreement that will see the British Grand Prix hosted by the circuit for the next seventeen years, despite Ecclestone's earlier assertions that Siverstone would not be hosting the race again. Work to the circuit for the 2010 British motorcycle Grand Prix means that the British Grand Prix may be run on the circuit's new "Arena" layout. However, Silverstone officials will wait until early in 2010 to make a decision on which circuit configuration the race will run on.
  • The Japanese Grand Prix was due to return to Fuji Speedway for 2010, as part of a year-on-year rotation with Suzuka Circuit. However, Fuji's owners Toyota announced that they had abandoned plans for Fuji to hold the race, citing the global recession as the main reason for this. Suzuka will continue to hold the event in 2010 and in 2011.
  • The Canadian Grand Prix will return in 2010 after its one-year absence.
  • South Korea is to make its first appearance on the F1 calendar under the name Korean Grand Prix with a race being held at the Korean International Circuit in Yeongam on October 17 (subject to the circuit's completion in time).

Rule changes

  • Refuelling during the race is to be abolished for the first time since 1993.Despite the resolution over the budget cap and the decision for 2010 to fall back to the 2009 rules, FOTA have expressed interest in a refuelling ban as it represents a way to cut costs.
  • Formula One Management will offer financial support to all new teams from next season, in the form of $10m (£6.25m, €6.8m) along with the free transportation of two chassis and 10,000 kg (22,049 lbs) of freight to each race.
  • FOTA has agreed to scrap KERS for 2010 due to poor uptake and pressure from FIA to cut costs, although KERS is not banned in the regulations.
  • The minimum car weight will be increased from 605 kg to 620 kg (1,334 lbs to 1,367 lbs) to stop taller and heavier drivers being at a disadvantage if KERS is added to their car, which will still be allowed in 2010, despite FOTA's agreement not to use the system.
  • The maximum number of cars allowed to take part in a race shall be increased from 24 to 26 cars.
  • The qualifying system will change to accommodate the extra cars: 8 cars will drop out of the first qualifying session, 8 from the second and as in 2009, 10 cars will shoot-out for pole in the third session. The third session will now be run in low-fuel configuration due to the refuelling ban.
  • Wheel covers which have been used by the teams since 2006 are also set to be banned for 2010.
  • The front tyres will be narrowed from 270mm to 245mm to improve the balance of grip between the front and rear.
  • During negotiations of a new Concorde Agreement at the 2009 Hungarian Grand Prix, several details emerged of cost-cutting proposals by the teams including:
    1)Homologation of front and rear wings.
    2)A limit on the number of aerodynamic upgrades permitted over the course of a season.
    3)A continuation of the ban on in-season testing introduced for 2009.
    4)Restrictions on the number of team personnel who can attend a Grand Prix weekend.
    5)Complete closures of team factories over the mid-season summer break.
  • A new points system has been ratified for 2010, in response to the increased grid. Since 2003, points had been awarded to the top eight finishers: ten points for first, eight for second, six for third and all the way down to one for eighth place. The 2010 system will see 25 points for first, 20 for second, 15 for third, ten for fourth and then eight, six, five, three, two, and finally one for tenth place.
  • The stewarding system will be overhauled for 2010. Rather than having a rotating line-up of stewards, they will now be drawn from a smaller, fixed pool of permanent stewards that will include former drivers. This is an attempt to make the stewarding process more transparent, following recent controversies involving the stewards.
  • 2009 saw the teams banned from conducting any testing once the season had commenced. This will be amended for 2010, with stand-in drivers being permitted to complete one day of testing (provided they have not participated in an F1 race in the last two calendar years) at a circuit that is not on the calendar. This was introduced in response to a situation arising whereby rookie drivers such as Jaime Alguersuari and Romain Grosjean were unable to physically drive a Formula One car ahead of Friday practice on their debut.

Sponsorship changes

  • ING originally decided to end its involvement with Formula One at the end of the 2009 season, which included title sponsorship of Renault along with the Australian, Hungarian and Belgian Grands Prix. The company cited the global economic crisis as the reason for its decision not to renew its involvement. However, the company decided to terminate the sponsorship with Renault early after Renault was found guilty of having fixed the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
  • Watch brand TW Steel has been confirmed as the first new sponsor of the Renault F1 Team, as the "Official Timing Partner", in a three-year deal running until 2012.
  • RBS will also not renew its sponsorship of Williams beyond the end of 2010. RBS will also cancel its trackside sponsorship as of the start of 2010.
  • YouTube founder Chad Hurley has joined US F1 Team as the team's primary investor.
  • Virgin Group have bought a 20% stake of Manor Grand Prix and plan to rename the team. This was confirmed in the entry list released on November 30, with the team being renamed Virgin Racing.
  • At the 2009 Italian Grand Prix, Banco Santander announced a five-year deal with Ferrari to become the team's "main" sponsor starting in 2010; McLaren later announced that their partnership with Banco Santander had been extended.
  • Malaysian oil company Petronas will end its long-running association with BMW Sauber as of 2010, and instead move to Mercedes Grand Prix as title sponsor. The team will be known as Mercedes GP Petronas.

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Calendar

  • 1 March 12-14th Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain International Circuit
  • 2 March 26-28th Australian Grand Prix Albert Park, Melbourne
  • 3 April 2nd-4th Malaysian Grand Prix Sepang International Circuit
  • 4 April 16-18th Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit
  • 5 May 7-9th Spanish Grand Prix Circuit de Catalunya
  • 6 May 13-16th Monaco Grand Prix Monte-Carlo
  • 7 May 28-30th Turkish Grand Prix Istanbul Park
  • 8 June 11-13th Canadian Grand Prix Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal
  • 9 June 25-27th European Grand Prix Valencia Street Circuit
  • 10 July 9-11th British Grand Prix Silverstone
  • 11 July 23-25th German Grand Prix Hockenheimring
  • 12 July 30th-August 1st Hungarian Grand Prix Hungaroring
  • 13 August 27-29th Belgian Grand Prix Spa-Francorchamps
  • 14 September 10-12th Italian Grand Prix Monza
  • 15 September 24-26th Singapore Grand Prix Singapore
  • 16 October 8-10th Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka
  • 17 October 22-24th Korean Grand Prix Jeonnam
  • 18 November 5-7th Brazilian Grand Prix Interlagos
  • 19 November 12-14th Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Island

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It wasn't necessary imo. Only some of the the Nascar fans were complaining. Give them their own thread, let the rest of the motorsport thread intact. 3 threads for motorsport will do no good.
 

Zinga

Banned
I love the idea of a F1 thread, but the Motorsport thread is so awesome and has a great community thanks to Subzero's efforts that I would hate to break it up. I think we have a great thing in the Motorsport thread and that shouldnt be ruined by a few of the non f1 fans.

Besides, without the politicking and drama of F1 there would be far less to talk about :D
 
V

Vennt

Unconfirmed Member
One mega-thread for Motorsport is fine, the haters will suffer if they continue their complaints.
 

duckroll

Member
I disagree. This season is going to be significantly different for F1, and it would be nice to have discussion on its own thread without having to scroll through random huge image spam posts of Nascar or other stuff. F1 has a pretty big following here, so it's not like the thread will have any issues staying alive. Stop being a spoil-spot.
 

duckroll

Member
I have nothing against the megathread, but I don't see why we can't try this out. If there isn't any interest and people still post everything in the megathread, then we can lock this up and keep things back the way they were. But if not, I don't see why we can't have something new. I definitely feel there are enough F1-only fans to justify having a yearly season thread just for F1.
 

dalin80

Banned
I like the separate thread thing, the mega thread is nice for pre-season stuff but in the next month or so when all the big racing events kick off a large thread will struggle for flow.

last year people were quoting each other from pages apart trying to keep a conversation going about a particular sport when in the meantime a nascar (for example) event happened and interrupted everything.
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
A separate one is nice, I'll post in both anyway as I'm sure F1 news that doesn't get put in one will be in the other.
 

Dead Man

Member
As I posted in the megathread, having thought about it I think it would be good to try out a seperate f1 thread for a bit, and if it just divides everything too much we can go back to just using the megathread.
 

kikanny

Member
idahoblue said:
As I posted in the megathread, having thought about it I think it would be good to try out a seperate f1 thread for a bit, and if it just divides everything too much we can go back to just using the megathread.
I don't think it would divide anything. All the F1 fans post here and other motorsport fans post in the mega-thread. Should be simple as that, right? Also, anyone know why Ferrari was covering their back-end yesterday? Any new revolutionary parts or something?
 
It's definitely a good idea to keep the F1 talk here rather than the giant motorsports thread as long as everyone's aware that this exists. After all, F1 is the motorsport, and having seen megathreads closed in Gaming for "megathread abuse" (i.e. posting significant news in the massive thread rather than starting a new one), I think it's only fair that F1 have its own thread for news/discussion to avoid snippets being overlooked and the redundancies that causes.

Anyway, I found this interesting: ESPN posted a brief piece on Divina Galica, one of very few women who attempted to make a name for herself in F1. If that's not ballsy enough, she also set a British speed skiing record several years ago. 125 mph. On skis. :O



kikanny said:
Also, anyone know why Ferrari was covering their back-end yesterday? Any new revolutionary parts or something?
I read somewhere a week or two ago that they were developing new parts for testing at Jerez. Probably a slight but significant diffuser design change, and they don't want to show their cards just yet.



h3ro said:

HAHAHAHA that is AWESOME
 
I'm not convinced yet and believe this will be a clusterfuck between the two threads but lets give it a try.

Posted this in the motorsport thread:

My prediction for this year:

Championship:

1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Hamilton
4. Schumacher
5. Webber
6. Massa
7. Rosberg
8. Button

Red Bull:

Vettel will dominate Webber this year. He has gained a lot of valuable experience last year, will be even faster and will make less mistakes. Webber is a good driver but too old to step up his game significantly to keep up with Sebastian. If the car is as good as last years from the start Vettel will have a great chance to become champion for the first time.

Ferrari:

They will look better then last year. Alonso and Massa will push each other in the qualis. Alonso with his nearly flaweless driving will make more points tho and see the checkered flag more often. If the Ferrari is the best car then Alonso can be world champion. I have my doubts tho if Ferrari has back its old strenght completely.

McLaren:

Hamilton will win team internally no question, however i don't see him as a champion at the end of the season. He drives too aggressive and makes too many mistakes. In a tight field like this years with so many top drivers who all want to win he will be involved in a lot of crashes and lose many valuable points. Button will be in for a reality check this year.

Mercedes:

Schumacher will be near the podium places constantly but if he still can dominate the rest of the field like in the old days is questionably. However he will win a couple of races if the car is good. Especially on a rainy day he will show his old class.
Rosbergs challenge this season will mostly be to not look too bad next to Michael. I see him gathering points constantly near the places 5-10, maybe a couple of podiums.

All other teams i'm afraid will be mostly extras this year maybe with a couple surprises here and there. It will still be more exciting this year to see whats going in the mid and end of the field thanks to the changes in the point system.

What are your predictions for this year? Would like to read some other opinions.
 

operon

Member
Heikki Kovalainen crash cuts short Lotus Jerez testing

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Lotus have been forced to abandon the second day of the third winter test in Jerez after Heikki Kovalainen knocked the front wing off their 2010 car.

The former McLaren driver slid off into the gravel and damaged the front wing as the wet weather continued in Spain.

Lotus technical director Mike Gascoyne said a new front wing would not arrive until the early hours of Friday.

It was Kovalainen's first run in the Lotus, who are taking part in their first test since rejoining the grid.

The Finn had completed around 30 laps for Lotus before his off and was bottom of the timesheets with a best of one minute, 33.554 seconds, five seconds off the pace of Williams' current leader Rubens Barrichello.

Kovalainen said on his Twitter page: "Had a crash and damaged front wing, session over for us. My mistake. Friday we go again."

Gascoyne added on his Twitter page: "Slight off for Heikki. Knocked off the front wing. Spare on its way, but will not be here until 2am, so no more running.

"Starting to put the car back together. If we had a spare front wing would be out again today but have to wait until tomorrow."
Source BBCnews
 

kikanny

Member
Steppenwolf said:
I'm not convinced yet and believe this will be a clusterfuck between the two threads but lets give it a try.

Posted this in the motorsport thread:

What are your predictions for this year? Would like to read some other opinions.

Championship prediction:
1. Massa
2. Hamilton
3. Alonso
4. Schumi
5. Vettel
6. Button
7. Webber
8. Rosberg

Ferrari:
I'm predicting Massa to be the world champion not only because I'm a fan but also because of the accident last year and a team mate like Alonso will make him push harder. I know a lot of people are expecting Alonso to just run over Massa but I personally believe it will be the other way around. We'll see...

Mclaren:
Button is a very good driver but I always believed he was there at the right time in the right car last year. This year, he'll be beaten convincingly by Lewis.

Mercedes:
This is still an unknown because of Schumi's health condition. But I think he will beat Rosberg and get podiums.

Red Bull:
Red Bull should be pretty competitive and Vettel should beat Webber just like last year.
 

Zinga

Banned
I'm really hoping that Jenson surprises everyone at Mclaren, would definitely be a huge boon for his reputation if he is able to prove himself as a competitor to Hamilton.

I still think that Button was a worthy champion in 2009 and that he is top talent, just hope that he can back it up this year with some great drives.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Steppenwolf said:
It wasn't necessary imo. Only some of the the Nascar fans were complaining. Give them their own thread, let the rest of the motorsport thread intact. 3 threads for motorsport will do no good.

Agreed. The Nascar fans were going to disapear in 3 weeks like they do every season anyway.

That is basically a F1/WRC/Moto GP thread.

The regular Nascar folks managed to post in it for the last 4 years without getting their panties in a was about all of the other racing talk getting in their way.

I'll try the thread out, but I like being able to keep up with all of the racing world news in one thread. I'm pretty sure we are just going to wind up talking about the same things across two threads.

I think it would make more sense just to give Nascar it's own thread since Nascar fans and racing fans in general seem to be two different groups.
 
subzero9285 said:
McLaren - I'll go against popular opinion and actually back Jenson
Good on you man. I'm pulling strong for Jenson. He's a fantastic driver who never had a car to match until the beginning of last season, and even when Red Bull's car surpassed Brawn's, he held his head above water in what has to be the most stressful position in any motorsport. I am keen to see what he can do this season.

I'm also keeping an eye on Kubica in the Renault. I'd love to see him land a lot of points this year.
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
Should be interesting to see how this thread pans out. Now I have two threads to keep tabs on.
 

Zinga

Banned
As critical as I am of Anderson and Windsor's incompetence, I would dearly love for them to succeed and make it to the grid, it would be great to see them at Bahrain even if it looks pretty much impossible to happen.
 

Sloane

Banned
kikanny said:
Championship prediction:
1. Massa
2. Hamilton
3. Alonso
4. Schumi
5. Vettel
6. Button
7. Webber
8. Rosberg
Pretty much what I expect, too, although I might put Alonso on #1 and Massa on #3. Ferrari and McLaren will do much better than last year, Mercedes should be about the same, would be nice if they can win a few races. Not sure about RBR. Hope they suck because I can't stand Vettel -- but even if they don't, they won't do as good as last year due to the stronger competition.

So, I guess my prediction would be:

1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Button
5. Schumacher
6. Vettel
7. Rosberg
8. Not Webber. Barrichello?
 
subzero9285 said:
There may still be hope for USF1 fans.
The US F1 Team web server is down and is being repaired as this is written. We are not gone, as many have reported. More news soon.
Via Twitter
USF1 2011 debut? I can't imagine them making Bahrain after what I've read... but then again you can't trust everything you read on the internet. Hopefully we'll see soon.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
Hmmm, I think I made a pretty convincing argument for the megathread just now, but whatever. I'll bookmark this one for now, but I just worry the megathread is living on borrowed time now. :(

If I can just add one thing to what subzero said, and it's that we're all fans and can get worked up for or against drivers, but it's all in good fun. We can get at each other, especially when someone's favorite driver cocks up, but don't take it personal. It's not like there were any Alex Yoong fans here or anything. :lol

Championship Prediction:
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Schumacher

I see/hope the Mac is stonking fast. Lewis will make Benson look pedestrian all season long. Alonso will get the better of Felipe...he's just that much better IMO. Michael will drub Nico so hard, we'll see that same sourpuss look on Rosberg's face by Race2. :lol PEACE.
 

kikanny

Member
Sloane said:
Pretty much what I expect, too, although I might put Alonso on #1 and Massa on #3. Ferrari and McLaren will do much better than last year, Mercedes should be about the same, would be nice if they can win a few races. Not sure about RBR. Hope they suck because I can't stand Vettel -- but even if they don't, they won't do as good as last year due to the stronger competition.
Why don't you stand Vettel? I mean I'm not a big fan of him or anything but he's a good driver and seems like a fun guy.
 

DieH@rd

Banned
Im from Serbia and i cant wait to see what will happen with Stefan GP. There is lot of rumors flying around that they will enter in this season.

They have announced first car testing in 25-28 February 2010 @ Portugal Portimao test track. Car and drivers will be shown few days before [hopefully]
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
Well it all depends on the cars of course, but putting it up to sheer driving ability and getting the most out of what you've got, here's my top picks.

Championship:

(1) Vettel - I stated this when he first appeared at STR that he would be champ some day, and soon. The maturing of his driving ability and patience over the past couple years, as well as the showing he and the RB5 had last season, things are looking up. If the RB6 proves to be just as good, and if the Renault power plant with its fuel efficiency holds it together, he's got it. I've also always been pretty partial to Newey's skill and designs, so that's another reason Vettel is my top pick.

(2) Alonso - In terms of pure skill, he and Vettel are my top 2 as the best drivers currently in F1, but Alonso has more experience. If they were in the same car, you might as well flip a coin cause who the hell knows. Vettel just has pure speed, but Alonso can drive the shit out of any car he's given. I think though, that Ferrari have built a quick one this season, but I don't think it's as quick as the RB6. I have no proof of course, it's just a feeling I have. So I think while he'll be fighting for wins with Vettel, Vettel is going to eek out the top spot with Alonso a close second.

(3) Hamilton - I'm sure the McLaren will be quick this year, so Hamilton takes the bronze. What can I say about this guy, he's fast, but he reckless. He's not what I call a smooth driver. Given no refueling and all of the extra weight, as well as drastic weight change throughout a race, I honestly think with his driving style and tendency to brake super late all the time, he will rape every set of tires he gets. He'll be fighting for wins, but I don't think his driving style suits this years regs.

(4) Shumacher - The Brawn chassis was a beast last season. Of course you can argue the DD advantage, but they were such a force regardless. I'm sure the Mercedes will be a beast this season as well. Power wise, they also have the best engine. Shumacher's got the skill, but no matter what people say, I don't think he's as quick as he used to be, nor as ruthless. He'll be fast, but not world champion fast.

(5) Massa - Hopefully the injury didn't phase him too much. But anyone who has a life altering incident happen is never quite the same, for better or for worse. Let's see which direction he's taken it. I personally have never seen Massa as an all around world class driver. I see him as a bit too emotional and inconsistent. Yeah he's fast, but with the competition he's got now, and his recovery, I put him at the top of the secondaries.

(6) Webber - This guy... flies under the radar and boom, what the hell. He's not all and all fast, but he's consistently right there behind you waiting for you to fuck up. Can he keep up with the ones above? Maybe not, but he'll always be in the points, and probably the mid to upper end of them. He's like the guy at the club who sees a couple have a fight and swoops in for the rebound. :lol

(7) Button - I'm not really a fan of him, but his smooth driving style I think will suit the McLaren and the tires this season quite well. I honestly think he bit off more than he can chew though. Hamilton is clearly faster than him, regardless of whatever excuse he says. He will probably screw up a few too many times because he thinks he has to prove to himself by beating Hamilton. Button is honestly a midfield driver, an upper end one, but midfield nonetheless. My prediction is he's going to falter under the pressure, his driving style will change, and ultimately he'll screw himself over.

(8) Rosberg - He hasn't proven himself to be top class, but he's in a Mercedes and that will count for a lot. He's shown he can be quick sometimes, but he's inconsistent.

(9) Barichello - You just can't count this old timer out. He's got the experience, and the guy just loves being in F1. You can say what you will about the young guns, but there's something to say about an older guy who just has the passion for the sport. If he was still at Mercedes, I probably would have put him above Rosberg, hell maybe even above Button, but Williams is a solid midfield car.

I would go on, but I think the variable of chassis becomes too much of a factor. I have no idea how the Sauber, Renault, Lotus, Virgin, Stephan, and Campos cars will perform (well I actually don't know how any will, but on the basis of the past years and reason, I think my top 9 are good). They've got some good drivers, but the cars have either had shit track records as of late, or no record at all.
 

TylerD

Member
The burning question that I want answered is who will be doing the blindfolded trace laps on Inside Grand Prix? I don't know if you guys get that show, but I really enjoy watching it.

Prediction for 2010 championship:
1) Vettel if the car is reliable
2) Hamilton
3) Webber or Schumi
 
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