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[Johnas]

GAME. OF. THE. YEAR.

I heart Nintendo.

 

[Ristamar]

Just got to view the his-res version of the trailer. At 1:08, does link shield bash the Stalfos on the left? Looks pretty cool. I also like the fact they have destructible shields. It appears the "weak points in enemy armor" is a gameplay facet they'll reuse or expand upon from Wind Waker.

 

[evilromero]

You sure you don't mean "acquainted," bud?

I mean, 802.11 has been around a few years, but Nintendo's in trouble if the writing's already on the wall.

Maybe I'll take my Belkin to the next Antique road show and see what I can get.

Oh my god, please don't tell me you just called me out on a fucking typo?

 

[AniHawk]

OK I havent read a transcript yet, is there one yet? But according to the PR nothing says that Nintendo is going to truly support online play, no talk of grandiose plans, nothing, nothing, nothing. The GDC is to talk about the future not the past and BC is all about the past. The publishers arent going to go great lets make more GCN games because it is BC (Except the discount publishers) and they arent going to want to create revolution games because GCN games will play on the revolution. I swear you guys shine every turd Nintendo throws at you and to think 4 years ago I was just like you.

Oh bitch, bitch, bitch.

 

[GDGF]

They arent saying anything that is different then GCN. Being able to access the internet is not creating a network. Did they talk at all to developers about how they will provide a service? Nope. Sounds a great deal like now.

Except Nintendo didn't support the GCN's modem with their own software, and they didn't include a modem in the GCN's box. Sounds nothing like now.

 

[jarrod]

They arent saying anything that is different then GCN.

Wait, when did global online games from Nintendo release on GCN?

 

[Deleted member 1235]

They arent saying anything that is different then GCN. Being able to access the internet is not creating a network. Did they talk at all to developers about how they will provide a service? Nope. Sounds a great deal like now.

Fuck Keith, did nintendo kill your dog or something? How can anything they announced today be interpreted as bad or shit? DS online, awesome, Revolution Wireless online capability out of the box awesome, animal crossing online for sure is awesome. Lot's of positive news and no negative, yet you are still hating. I doubt they spilled all of their beans before e3 as well.

The change in thinking for Nintendo regarding online is enough for me.

 

[Future]

Awesome trailer. Talk about just delivering fans exactly what they want. Wind Waker did well, but I can't help but wonder how much more wide spread appeal and notice this version of Zelda would have gotten if it was released first. I dig those enemy designs...NOTHING looks cute so far. And they delivered an "epic" looking trailer like the ones Microsoft did for fable, instead of a cutesy happy go lucky game. Excellent

Now please Nintendo put a lot of stuff in the overworld...please don't have to battle random spawning dudes on horses every single time you move place to place on your horse.

And features like Wi-Fi out of the box would be a complete waste of money if there was going to be minimal support. Gives a pretty good indication that the big multiplayer franchise updates will finally all be online in some way (Kart, Party, Tennis, Golf, etc). And backwards compatability guarantees that while the Revolution might try things that are new, it's gonna have standard console controls available which keeps it competitive.

Good news all around. A lot better than I would have thought. I was expecting an even simpler trailer and really no details aside from WAIT FOR E3 BITCHES!!!!! Good stuff

 

[Enigma]

You know what's funny about this thread: Deg really isn't around, but KeithFranklin seems to be filling in admirably.

 

[SantaC]

btw, folder owns!

 

[skip]

don't encourage him.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Awesome! Can't wait to get Zelda. Looks like they've nailed down a couple of important things for Revolution too. But man, Zelda looks nice. And I actually hope there's a little sailing in it too. :lol PEACE.

 

[Spike]

OK I havent read a transcript yet, is there one yet? But according to the PR nothing says that Nintendo is going to truly support online play, no talk of grandiose plans, nothing, nothing, nothing. The GDC is to talk about the future not the past and BC is all about the past. The publishers arent going to go great lets make more GCN games because it is BC (Except the discount publishers) and they arent going to want to create revolution games because GCN games will play on the revolution. I swear you guys shine every turd Nintendo throws at you and to think 4 years ago I was just like you.

If you feel this bad with just Nintendo's revelations, I hate to think what you'll be like when Sony throws down the gauntlet...

This whole conference is about getting the developers interested enough to develop titles for your respective system. I would think that both Microsoft and Nintendo have accomplished what they set out to do: get developers interested enough to look into the platforms.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I just hope they do the online service right. Sonys online service when playing from NZ makes you believe you are the only person aware of the internet.

 

[explodet]

At 1:08, does link shield bash the Stalfos on the left?

You know, he just might have. I hadn't noticed that, pretty cool. But then he gets hit by the other stalfos, har har.

 

[defjah]

I'll just say WOW to the Zelda trailer...

 

[Ironclad]

You know, he just might have. I hadn't noticed that, pretty cool. But then he gets hit by the other stalfos, har har.

From the looks of it, he does knock the first stalfos back with his sheild. I wonder if he was blocking or if it is an offensive attack.

 

[acidviper]

I'm not impressed. WiFi "sometime later this year" is Nintendo-talk for E3 2006. I don't think they are doing enough to take the lustre off of the PSP launch by saying that their online service has Animal Crossing online. What about DS Wars online, Fire Emblem online, or a sports game online. The PSP is going to have an RPG and sports titles WiFi enabled at launch.

 

[Ristamar]

From the looks of it, he does knock the first stalfos back with his sheild. I wonder if he was blocking or if it is an offensive attack.

Looks offensive, maybe similar to the parry/counter-attack system from Wind Waker.

 

[xexex]

Zelda fucking rocks!


Link is a cat-lover.


MEOW ! :lol

 

[KeithFranklin]

Just read the transcript and the only really interesting is that it says you wont need to put in the SSID or WEP to get on the network. Im sorry, but that is a breach of security and I doubt that the local Starbucks or my home for that matter will allow it. Either he is blowing smoke or they are going to try to sell proprietary access points.

 

[DMczaf]

*packs GC up to take to EBgames*

*watches new Zelda trailer*

*begins to unpack GC*

 

[gofreak]

Just read the transcript and the only really interesting is that it says you wont need to put in the SSID or WEP to get on the network. Im sorry, but that is a breach of security and I doubt that the local Starbucks or my home for that matter will allow it. Either he is blowing smoke or they are going to try to sell proprietary access points.

Can you link to the transcript? i've not seen it yet..

 

[xsarien]

Just read the transcript and the only really interesting is that it says you wont need to put in the SSID or WEP to get on the network. Im sorry, but that is a breach of security and I doubt that the local Starbucks or my home for that matter will allow it. Either he is blowing smoke or they are going to try to sell proprietary access points.

You're really trying to make a big deal out of nothing, aren't you? Even most wireless cards - by default - will try to latch onto the closest/strongest access point or wireless router they can find. I think it goes without saying that should you need to, there will be a place to enter SSID/WEP information in the Revolution system menu.

Now, why you're going to be bringing the Revolution to a Starbucks, I have no idea; but you can configure your home anyway you wish. Even for LAN parties, simply turning off the SSID broadcast should be enough for a few hours of whatever multiplayer game you'd like.

And, heh. You're talking about breaches of security and WEP. Skip over WEP and just use MAC filtering instead. Less of a headache, and more of a lockdown on who can get onto your network.

 

[Metal]

Can you link to the transcript? i've not seen it yet..

http://cube.ign.com/articles/595/595089p1.html

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Really surprised by the reactions here (well not really). Zelda is mind-blowing, but not a goddamn other thing was noteworthy.

OMG the chips have names!!! Broadway/Hollywood WOWZERS. DS has WiFi? MEGAT0N! Online DS games? Never woulda imagined it.

I wouldn't put it so negatively, but yeah, there's very little new important information. And that which was (DS online, Revolution WiFi from the get-go) had already been speculated about for a long time.

BC isn't big news? oookay.

Well, Iwata has talked about this previously. Nice to see it properly confirmed, though.

At E3 yes it is but not at GDC. Why do a bunch of developers (I mean the people that really do the work) care about BC. Does it effect how they code for the Revolution?

But for those of us here who aren't developers, what does the location of any news matter? It doesn't so much affect how they code for Revolution, as how they continue to code for GameCube.

 

[Ironclad]

Looks offensive, maybe similar to the parry/counter-attack system from Wind Waker.

Yeah, it did look more offensive than defensive. This could definetly lead to some more interesting combat techniques.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Just read the transcript and the only really interesting is that it says you wont need to put in the SSID or WEP to get on the network. Im sorry, but that is a breach of security and I doubt that the local Starbucks or my home for that matter will allow it. Either he is blowing smoke or they are going to try to sell proprietary access points.

How is that a breach of security? Whos security is breached? Why are you sorry? Isn't it basically standard that almost every wireless device can work unsecured? Like it won't have the option to work securely as well, it's good to have the option to play on an unsecured line, that way you can probably play all over the place and who gives a shit about the security of your game data? you are really reaching for troll ammo.

 

[Spike]

Just read the transcript and the only really interesting is that it says you wont need to put in the SSID or WEP to get on the network. Im sorry, but that is a breach of security and I doubt that the local Starbucks or my home for that matter will allow it. Either he is blowing smoke or they are going to try to sell proprietary access points.

Can people be banned for talking stupid?

In the same paragraph he says "simple and seamless." Get it yet? Who is their target audience? Do they really want the younger crowd and the people who don't play games to worry about entering a SSID or WEP?

With this post alone you become obvious. I don't think anyone's going to take any further posts from you on this subject seriously. I know I won't.

Good day.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Just read the transcript and the only really interesting is that it says you wont need to put in the SSID or WEP to get on the network. Im sorry, but that is a breach of security and I doubt that the local Starbucks or my home for that matter will allow it. Either he is blowing smoke or they are going to try to sell proprietary access points.

Unless you are sending indecent pictochat pics to little kids, you should not care.

 

[KeithFranklin]

So his claim that people wont need to put in a SSID or WEP is just talking up standard wireless device settings people get today. How is a big deal then. Believe me I know all about wireless security. My comment was about either he is blowing smoke up your ass by claiming people wont need to enter a SSID or WEP when in fact people will need to often enter this information. Unless of course they sell an Access Point specially designed to allow DS or Revelution to always connect to it without any security settings (Which I doubt because hackers would have a field day).

 

[SantaC]

are you done trolling Nintendos GDC showing keithfranklin?

 

[Wario64]

Gamespot has the full keynote video up, 700 mb (59 minutes run length)

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/media.html

 

[xsarien]

Believe me I know all about wireless security. My comment was about either he is blowing smoke up your ass by claiming people wont need to enter a SSID or WEP when in fact people will need to often enter this information.

Most of the time, access points don't have their SSID broadcasts disabled. So, in a theoretical DS/Revolution scenario a list of available networks will appear, and the equipment will simply ask which network you'd like to use. That in and of itself doesn't require you to enter anything. More advanced setups obviously require it, SSIDs and WEP are part of the damned 802.11x spec. By that virtue alone, if you need to customize anything, it will be there for you to futz around with.

 

[neptunes]

thanks for the video link, Iwata speaking of his background is pretty cool I guess.

Ahh so the name for HAL labs was based of HAL the computer in 2001: A space odyssey.

first time I heard about that.

 

[cja]

The Nintendogs and Electro Plankton demonstrations were great

 

[KeithFranklin]

xsarien,

What I am saying is that this is exactly how wireless internet devices work today. So why does he brag about it?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

xsarien,

What I am saying is that this is exactly how wireless internet devices work today. So why does he brag about it?

Good lord. The man said one sentence on this in a section iterating how simple the whole process would be, and you've taken it alternately as a major security risk and excessive bragging.

 

[xsarien]

xsarien,

What I am saying is that this is exactly how wireless internet devices work today. So why does he brag about it?

Because hopping onto a wireless network - from a UI standpoint - is much easier for a lay person than plugging their machine into a router, setting up for DHCP or assigned IPs, and all the other genuine bullshit that even someone who knows what they're doing gets annoyed with.

It's not "bragging" per se. This isn't a case of "Nintendo invented [wireless] internet gaming." Nintendo wanted the process to be seamless, this allows them to do it.

 

[mj1108]

Good lord. The man said one sentence on this in a section iterating how simple the whole process would be, and you've taken it alternately as a major security risk and excessive bragging.

He has to find *something* to troll a Nintendo thread about....

 

[Deleted member 1235]

ARRRRGHHHH!

Simple and seamless, get it? They won't be using SSID, WEP details, all data will just be unsecured to make it easier for the end user. The thinking behind this is clearly "Who gives a shit if your nintendog gets hacked" Did you expect them to invent a new wireless or something? He was talking about adopting wireless into their console. "Bragging about it" well frankly Nintendo should make a big deal out of going online. It's about time.

 

[koam]

Amen. Thank you for being sane here Keith.

Really surprised by the reactions here (well not really). Zelda is mind-blowing, but not a goddamn other thing was noteworthy.

OMG the chips have names!!! Broadway/Hollywood WOWZERS. DS has WiFi? MEGAT0N! Online DS games? Never woulda imagined it.

Fucking fanboys.

So what's your gamertag?

 

[ToyMachine228]

After listening to and reading the transcript of Iwata's speech, I think that the speech he gave today, is the best speech he's given since he's been the President of Nintendo. It gave us just enough information to get hyped, and it made a lot of good points.

 

[Odnetnin]

Gamespot has the full keynote video up, 700 mb (59 minutes run length)

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/media.html

Is there another place to download this stuff? Good news! Can't wait to see this video. Too busy to catch up with breaking news. Would like another non streaming savable link.

 

[KeithFranklin]

Simple and seamless, get it? They won't be using SSID, WEP details, all data will just be unsecured to make it easier for the end user. The thinking behind this is clearly "Who gives a shit if your nintendog gets hacked" Did you expect them to invent a new wireless or something? He was talking about adopting wireless into their console. "Bragging about it" well frankly Nintendo should make a big deal out of going online. It's about time.

You guys will just simply argue when you dont know what your talking about. Sure maybe you dont care that your transmissions get sniffed, but that doesnt mean that the WAP's dont require SSID or WEPs. Sure some dont but many do. What about things like T-Mobile or other providers that through up a web page before u can gain access to the network until your a subscriber.

All I am saying is he painted something far to simple.

Also I am not trolling. Trolling is when someone throws in obvious bait to start a flame war. I am simply commenting on something Iwata actually said that really doesnt make perfect sense. I am only commenting on the boring stuff that he said that got you guys spouting wood.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Ugh, what you are doing is nitpicking over minor details. If some WAP's don't offer access without SSID or WEP details, then surely Nintendos programmers know this and are probably savy enough to have and "advanced options" tab in their kit. No need to turn on the siren and run around screaming "SECURITY BREACH" :lol

And concrete information on Nintendos online strategy is something to sport wood over.

 

[human5892]

Guys, I think KeithFranklin is right.

Nintendo will soon cancel their DS online plans, once they realize their methods breach security.

 

[xsarien]

You guys will just simply argue when you dont know what your talking about.

I know what I'm talking about. Furthermore, you're the one screaching about a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Whoever asked 'why do developers care about BC at a developers conference', in a manner to suggest that they DO NOT care. You should know that during the announcement (for revolution), a room full of developers cheered.

On another note. The codenames for the chips in revolution. Broadway, the capitial of Live entertainment. Hollywood, the capitial of movie entertainment. I think there maybe be some hidden meaning there.

 

[KeithFranklin]

OK Security Breach was the wrong term. How about this.

Claiming people wont have to put in SSID or WEP is Bullshit. How about that. Claiming something as special when it is already the way the technology works is Bullshit.