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Official Madden 13 Xbox 360 Online Franchise Thread:Stat padding? Never heard of him.

Birdman02

Member
Bob called you witch

Oh, lol, I completely missed that.

Mrbob said:
Yeah, this happened in my game against the Saints. Cover one, safety not even close to the ball. Hester wide open deep. This normally would be a TD or long completion, right? Nope. The safety made up almost 15 yards and caught up to Hester and made a leaping catch right in front of him for the int. I saw control of the safety being made and then perfect angle to the ball in a straight diagonal line. Y to win is too powerful.

Game sucks.

Edit: I'm not saying this because I think Birdles is a cheeser. I know he isn't. Just how stupid the logic is in the game.

That was just normal ball hawk in action. I switched to Jenkins and turbo'd towards Hester...I held Y once the ball got close. Part of the problem with that pass is that I think it was underthrown...Jenkins doesn't have the speed to run anyone down, but that ball seemed to be in the air forever. A slightly earlier throw would've gone for a TD.
 
btw i was looking at my AWR ratings on defense:

justin smith - 99
pwill - 99
rogers - 95
aldon - 94
brooks - 91
goldson - 90
mcdonald - 90
bowman - 90
whitner - 90
brown - 90
culliver - 90
sopoaga - 89
brock (dime CB) - 87

so the lowest rated AWR guy that ever sees the field for me on defense is an 87 lulz
 

Trasher

Member
btw i was looking at my AWR ratings on defense:

justin smith - 99
pwill - 99
rogers - 95
aldon - 94
brooks - 91
goldson - 90
mcdonald - 90
bowman - 90
whitner - 90
brown - 90
culliver - 90
sopoaga - 89
brock (dime CB) - 87

so the lowest rated AWR guy that ever sees the field for me on defense is an 87 lulz

Jesus.

Awareness: aka letting the game play for you.
 

daw840

Member
You ready to roll Rors!

The Chiefs defense has brought in a new defensive coach in the last couple of hours. Let's see if he (Y) can make something happen!
 
here are all the 90+ AWR rated defense players (non 49ers) in the league:

Brian Urlacher - 97
Jared Allen - 96
Kyle Williams (DT bills) - 91
champ bailey - 97
eric weddle - 92
asante samuel - 95
brandon flowers - 92
gary bracket - 91
derrick johnson - 91
tamba hali - 90
dwight freeny - 98
robert mathis - 96
demarcus ware - 92
karlos dansby - 90
nnadmi - 94
trent cole - 91
john abraham - 94
corey webster - 90
daryl smith - 94
revis - 96
bart scott - 95
david harris - 90
dyle vanden bosch - 93
stephen tulloch - 90
charles woodson - 97
jon beason - 96
charles johnson - 91
chris gamble - 91
luke kuechly - 90
vince wilfork - 97
osi umenyiora - 91
cortland finnegan - 90
james laurenitis - 90
ed reed - 98
ngata - 96
suggs - 90
casey hampton - 95
will smith - 91
jonathan vilma - 90
chris clemons - 91
jonathan joseph - 91
antoine winfield - 97
kevin williams - 91
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
I'd have felt good about 2 guys on that list until FMT listed his whole starting defense and selected backups.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I contend that AWR doesn't matter all that much to defenders aside from CBs and Safeties.

AWR is imperative for blockers, I always thought defenders relied on PRC.

This is probably why I have the worst pass D in the league.
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
I contend that AWR doesn't matter all that much to defenders aside from CBs and Safeties.

AWR is imperative for blockers, I always thought defenders relied on PRC.

This is probably why I have the worst pass D in the league.

Why pick one when you can have them all?! The 49er way.
 

LJ11

Member
Y works if you press it as it's thrown. The AI just puts their arms up and gets in front of the ball lol Even if you're not controlling him.

It doesn't seem to work if you hold it from the start of the play. Hit stick thing works if you do it as the AI is getting there and mash it up, but not down. I couldn't get it right every time with my non-big hitters (everyone not named McClain!). It requires some timing, I guess, but my guys never hit stick and I got them to do it on every play. I guess if it's a goal line situation, you could just mash the shit out of a bang-bang play like FB dive and hope for a DL FF.

Y doesn't work on runs and it doesn't make them superbeast at run defense. Or so it seems. I don't think I know how to do it right.

So maybe it's better to tap it throughout the play so you have a better chance at timing release, however it works I think you understand what I'm talking about, at times and against certain routes, I've seen it against corner routes more often, the DB face guards. He runs with his hands up and never turns, the smarter defenders do turn around however.

And yeah, it doesn't do anything on runs, just pass d, definitely more noticeable with zone d.
 
at the start of season 1 i had 2 players above 90 awr: willis and justin smith. i also have a few players above 90 on offense... two on the o-line!

p.s.

i thought the hold Y thing caused man coverage to be more effective?
 

Mrbob

Member
at the start of season 1 i had 2 players above 90 awr: willis and justin smith. i also have a few players above 90 on offense... two on the o-line!

p.s.

i thought the hold Y thing caused man coverage to be more effective?

You also get the most bonus XP every week out of any team on defense.
 

bluemax

Banned
Some of the issues are that the defensive players can cover some serious ground in a short time but the ball speed is slow as fuck. The trajectories need more work. I should be able to drop a ball over the LB and before the safety arrives with fair consistency.

The defender wins too much on contested passes, IMO.

That's for damn sure. Kenny Timm has 99 jump and is 6'5" and he's been out jump a shit ton of times. Contested deep passes are almost always picks if the other guy holds Y.
 

Rorschach

Member
I don't get it. When I whiff on a hit stick I seem to just fuck myself over.

That's because you switch defenders. Keep it on your safety for instance, then do it as they get close to the carrier. a player away from the play. Not saying anyone is doing it on purpose, but it's retarded that failure = win
 

bluemax

Banned
uh huh

p.s.

ran 5 plays on defense without ever touching the Y button at all (this is in CCM practice mode):

5 without:
1. run play... i don't notice anything out of the ordinary
2. another run player. again, i replayed it and see nothing out of the ordinary
3. pass play out of 3 wides. CPU QB sits and sits in the pocket, no one open, eventually throws it deep to the WR on the right who is tightly covered and the ball is picked by the safety
4. Draw play out of 3 wide, rb tackled after a gain of 5. dont see anything weird on the coverage
5. twins formation. the inside WR covered by rogers and the wr is running an out and up. wr has a yard or two on rogers, QB throws it and it floats for a pick


now i'll run 5 plays while holding Y at the snap

Waaaaay too small a sample.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I like the repeat pictures.

Austin Reed (WR in the draft) is Andrew Apo (7th rounder I took last year)
Andy Joseph (HB in the draft) is Ty Peters (Sok's running back)
 
why would someone hit stick completely away from the play? lol daw if you're doing this (or anyone else!) cut it out. missing a hit stick is one thing but if i'm understanding it correctly you're completely away from the play and just randomly hit sticking?
 

Trasher

Member
why would someone hit stick completely away from the play? lol daw if you're doing this (or anyone else!) cut it out. missing a hit stick is one thing but if i'm understanding it correctly you're completely away from the play and just randomly hit sticking?

That's what I've been confused about as well.
 

eznark

Banned
why would someone hit stick completely away from the play? lol daw if you're doing this (or anyone else!) cut it out. missing a hit stick is one thing but if i'm understanding it correctly you're completely away from the play and just randomly hit sticking?

Bob was doing this constantly yesterday. But I think he is just genuinely that terrible at the game now.
 

Rorschach

Member
Bob was doing this constantly yesterday. But I think he is just genuinely that terrible at the game now.

Yeah, I think some players just whiff all day (like boobs) but it rewards them for missing... or just straight up sucking.


Anyway, game is super trash. I'll play this last season and I'm out!
 

eznark

Banned
Fuck Madden. Go download the Great Giana Sisters Winter Special on Steam. It's a Christmas themed demo. It's a great fucking game. Legit great.
 

Rorschach

Member
McFadden: 4 carries, 3 fumbles. Awesome. Can't even run anymore. Have to pass all day. Dickson with a fumble too, so that's not even safe! But it's at least possible.
 

BigAT

Member
McFadden: 4 carries, 3 fumbles. Awesome. Can't even run anymore. Have to pass all day. Dickson with a fumble too, so that's not even safe! But it's at least possible.

A pain I know all too well.

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