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Official Madden 13 Xbox 360 Online Franchise Thread:Stat padding? Never heard of him.

eznark

Banned
So how does trading player for player work in terms of cap hit? Do we each still get a hit or do they somehow offset?

NFL needs to have more trades so I feel the need to care about thsi stuff.
 

DCX

DCX
So how does trading player for player work in terms of cap hit? Do we each still get a hit or do they somehow offset?

NFL needs to have more trades so I feel the need to care about thsi stuff.

You eat the cap hit. The team receiving the player doesn't pay a dime on the bonus money.

DCX
 

eznark

Banned
You eat the cap hit. The team receiving the player doesn't pay a dime on the bonus money.

DCX

Right, so each team eats their own hit? That seems kind of weird. Seems like they should offset and the teams should eat the difference.
 

LJ11

Member
So how does trading player for player work in terms of cap hit? Do we each still get a hit or do they somehow offset?

NFL needs to have more trades so I feel the need to care about thsi stuff.

Like DCX said the team trading the player is going to take the hit, hit is whatever signing bonus is left. I think if you trade before June all of it goes on the books in the current year, after June, you split it into two years. So if you gave 12m bonus and the player only played a year, he still has 9m due. If you cut or trade after June it should be 3m current year 6m the next.

Cutting and trading work exactly the same way in terms of hit.
 

DCX

DCX
Right, so each team eats their own hit? That seems kind of weird. Seems like they should offset and the teams should eat the difference.

The trading time eats the whole cap hit on the bonus. the receiving team takes on the base.
 

eznark

Banned
Yeah, I understand, but it seems like the purpose of the salary cap hit is as a hedge against dumping guaranteed money, but if you have two teams trading guys with guaranteed money it would make sense to me that only the team who is "winning" (i.e. getting salary relief) should pay the hit.

I'm not saying that is how it works, I'm saying that is how it should work.
 

LJ11

Member
Yeah, I understand, but it seems like the purpose of the salary cap hit is as a hedge against dumping guaranteed money, but if you have two teams trading guys with guaranteed money it would make sense to me that only the team who is "winning" (i.e. getting salary relief) should pay the hit.

I'm not saying that is how it works, I'm saying that is how it should work.

Yeah, I see what you're saying, I guess this is why you don't see too many trades.

If someone trades for D.Williams the Panthers will take a big dick up the ass, and I doubt someone is giving them more than a 3rd. But I guess they just want to get rid of the mistake asap, sunk cost and all that, and if they have room it doesn't hurt them too much.
 

DCX

DCX
Yeah, I understand, but it seems like the purpose of the salary cap hit is as a hedge against dumping guaranteed money, but if you have two teams trading guys with guaranteed money it would make sense to me that only the team who is "winning" (i.e. getting salary relief) should pay the hit.

I'm not saying that is how it works, I'm saying that is how it should work.

True. Like child support in a situation where you share week to week. There is none becuase you share equal custody.



DCX
 

eznark

Banned
Yeah, I see what you're saying, I guess this is why you don't see too many trades.

If someone trades for D.Williams the Panthers will take a big dick up the ass, and I doubt someone is giving them more than a 3rd. But I guess they just want to get rid of the mistake asap, sunk cost and all that, and if they have room it doesn't hurt them too much.

Ya, that's kind of what I am getting at. The NFL is really punitive in regards to player movement. Seems strange.


Moving to more important matters, how much does Ubisoft pay for an OT like the AssCreed Vita one? Does it all go to GAF or does the thread starter get some too?
 

GCQuinton

Member
I've barely got any cap space right now, and the $8M hit i would take is the only reason I'm keeping DeAngelo Williams. Made me wanna fire Hurney again!
 

bluemax

Banned
So basically once the draft starts it'll be total chaos. That will be fun.

I dunno, I mean I scouted the players and positions I wanted so I figure I have enough scouted players to be helpful to me, but since I only scouted ratings and players I care about and it makes predicting what others want harder.

I guess I could use that draft guide and guess based on overalls.

Edit: Its funny that eznark mentions paid OTs, because EviLore perma banned that Amazon Games guy for asking if people would be interested in getting paid to make OTs. Its been obvious for awhile that a lot of these OTs get promotional artwork straight from the publishers, but if someone wants to make the process more transparent, well that's just a big no no in EviLore's book.
 

Mrbob

Member
I still vote Sunday

Or Saturday as early as possible if FMT is gonna get his rocks off by spilling the blood of half his league.

I still don't know my schedule for that day. I didn't wanna throw out a guess but shit if you are gonna draft with 16 guys either way...

Yup, didn't matter. FMT gonna go with the method that screws the most amount of people.
 

Mrbob

Member
Whatever, I want to see the receipts. I don't put this leadership above corruption!

Vote was what...15 to 12? Such a dominating performance. I'm still for Sunday Night. Or split up the draft into a couple times.

Saturday Morning, Saturday night, and Sunday Night for round 1. Then do whatever for the second round and beyond. More effort should be applied for everyone to get their first round pick in.
 

eznark

Banned
Whatever, I want to see the receipts. I don't put this leadership above corruption!

Vote was what...15 to 12? Such a dominating performance. I'm still for Sunday Night. Or split up the draft into a couple times.

Saturday Morning, Saturday night, and Sunday Night for round 1. Then do whatever for the second round and beyond. More effort should be applied for everyone to get their first round pick in.

If people care they will make it. Simple.
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
Daw with no TV. This wouldn't be an issue on a wii-u league!

Also fmt won't advance on one of his boys so I guess free agency starts tomorrow.
 

eznark

Banned
I guess for a Farmboy like you who doesn't have anything else to worry about it works out!

You can slaughter your cattle at any time during the day!

Again with! the random and inapp!ropriate exclamation marks. At least DCX's signature makes sense.


!

My sister is coming into town Saturday so I'll probably miss regardless. If I cared enough I could do it though. I'm not going to ask the rest of you to ruin your day because my sister is coming into town or because I am going to watch criminals not play defense or because I am testing for my pink belt.

http://www.doodle.com/

That's the site we should use next season.
 

Colasante

Member
Daw with no TV. This wouldn't be an issue on a wii-u league!

Also fmt won't advance on one of his boys so I guess free agency starts tomorrow.

Daw could always do his resignings online and then we could all agree not to bid on Bowe in free agency, so Daw could sign him to a one year deal afterwards. Obviously it's no big deal to wait until tomorrow night to advance, but if we needed to advance ahead of the storm tonight, that's a way to do it.
 

Mrbob

Member
Oh crap, Stave is out the rest of this season? Well whatever small hope Wisconsin football had this season is officially finished.
 

eznark

Banned
Oh crap, Stave is out the rest of this season? Well whatever small hope Wisconsin football had this season is officially finished.

FUCK

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Smokey

Member
Again with! the random and inapp!ropriate exclamation marks. At least DCX's signature makes sense.


!

My sister is coming into town Saturday so I'll probably miss regardless. If I cared enough I could do it though. I'm not going to ask the rest of you to ruin your day because my sister is coming into town or because I am going to watch criminals not play defense or because I am testing for my pink belt.

http://www.doodle.com/

That's the site we should use next season.

images
 

Smokey

Member
you tumbleweed fuck you insinuated that nba players are criminals and i posted a picture of your own criminal steroid cheater that you sit and watch use a stick to hit a ball for the most pointless, dragged out regular season in sports
 

eznark

Banned
you tumbleweed fuck you insinuated that nba players are criminals and i posted a picture of your own criminal steroid cheater that you sit and watch use a stick to hit a ball for the most pointless, dragged out regular season in sports

The problem is that Braun was never accused of a crime, so your joke is an abortion.


Lol at the Texan calling someone else a tumbleweed. I think smokey just wanted to say weed.
 

bluemax

Banned
I'm not sure how you can call the baseball regular season long, dragged out and pointless when it takes the NBA just as long to play half as many games and half the league makes the playoffs anyhow.
 

Smokey

Member
I'm not sure how you can call the baseball regular season long, dragged out and pointless when it takes the NBA just as long to play half as many games and half the league makes the playoffs anyhow.

because stick ball has 162 games? there's zero reason for any sport to have a 162 game season, let alone one where dudes are swinging with a stick or standing out in the outfield chewing sunflower seeds or scratching their balls
 
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