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Official Madden Season 11 Thread: The school books say it can't be here again!

Andokuky said:
Wow with the update Denver now has two easy button WR's. GAF AFC am cry :lol

It's too bad that I've lost my touch...

Birdman...I've been sending you messages on XBL all night...can you play tonight? Please let me know if you can since I'm going to be out of town for the rest of the week!!!
 

Rorschach

Member
DMczaf said:
The mod on the EA forums said it would probably be up Tuesday during maintainance.

Edit:

Wait, they are going up tomorrow. Details are up.

http://www.pastapadre.com/2057/madden-08-roster-update-6-details#more-2057

Its long as hell, so I'm not copy and pasting this.
That list is so bunk... Some of the "changes" are the current numbers...and some of the downs are contradictory to the ups...

Also, some of the updates are from early december and the others from late december...wtf

• HB Dominic Rhodes – Raiders – 79 to 80 – Ran very tough the last couple games. Especially the last game where he was falling forward almost every run.

• HB Dominic Rhodes – Raiders – 80 to 79 – Might have saved his job for next year with a solid final two games.

:lol He's already 80, so I guess that makes sense somehow...it all evens out!
 

Birdman02

Member
dammitmattt said:
It's too bad that I've lost my touch...

Birdman...I've been sending you messages on XBL all night...can you play tonight? Please let me know if you can since I'm going to be out of town for the rest of the week!!!

Are you sure you sent them to the right person (Birdman1702)? I didn't get any messages from you.....which really sucks because I was on xbl for a lot of the night, and we could've played. My wife was on the computer last night, so I couldn't check GAF.
 

LiveWire

Member
I'll be around all night tonight gents (daw and LJ). LJ if you want to try and get both games in tonight we can, or if you want to spread them out let me know. (I know some people don't like playing two league games in a row.)
 

LJ11

Member
LiveWire said:
I'll be around all night tonight gents (daw and LJ). LJ if you want to try and get both games in tonight we can, or if you want to spread them out let me know. (I know some people don't like playing two league games in a row.)

I'll be able to do two if you want.
 

Striker

Member
I've been really busy with work and school lately. I may be able to play you later tonight, but I guess it depends what time I get home and if you're available.
 

DMczaf

Member
Striker said:
I've been really busy with work and school lately. I may be able to play you later tonight, but I guess it depends what time I get home and if you're available.

I can play tonight if you are around.
 

DMczaf

Member
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LJ11

Member
LiveWire said:
What? Mad that you got smoked in the 2nd game after cheese blitzing me in the first?

Cheese blitzing you, are you insane? Everything I run is by the book. Did I move players around, did I bring players closer to the line? You know what I did do, I hit up on the right analog stick as soon as you passed to Pass Commit. If you do that when a player is going for the payaction, your defenders bypass the running back and go for the QB, it's a sack every time.

If I cheesed blitzed you the first game, why didn't I do the same exact thing the second game. Did I suddenly become a kindler gentler person?

Seriously fuck off, I play the same way every time I play.

Edit: You could have talked to me after the first game if you had complaints about the way I played. If I was just "cheesed" by someone, I would A) Let them know and B) Never play them again. You did neither, in fact you were ready for "Round 2" asap.
 

LiveWire

Member
LJ11 said:
Cheese blitzing you, are you insane? Everything I run is by the book. Did I move players around, did I bring players closer to the line? You know what I did do, I hit up on the right analog stick as soon as you passed to Pass Commit. If you do that when a player is going for the payaction, your defenders bypass the running back and go for the QB, it's a sack every time.

If I cheesed blitzed you the first game, why didn't I do the same exact thing the second game. Did I suddenly become a kindler gentler person?

Seriously fuck off, I play the same way every time I play.

6 sacks first game, 4 sacks second game. The only reason you didn't get more sacks is because I had the ball longer due to turnovers you committed. Don't get pissed at me for 5 turnovers. Ando did the same shit with the auto-sack or stuff the run-carrier. This time I was able to make you pay for it.
 

LJ11

Member
Livewire man, you hold on to the ball forever trying to get Moss open, I zone blitz or rush four the majority of the time, I only sell out to stop the run on occasion. Seriously you should have talked to me about it right after the game. And I love how you quote 4 sacks in the second, two of which I got in the last 3 minutes of the game when you were running up the score in the redzone. Playaction to Moss, well I had my DE run contain and came after you. But yeah I guess I cheese blitzed.

Whatever I don't need this headache, I've scrimmaged with you at least a half a dozen times, you never complained once. I haven't changed my game, I play the same way each and every time.
 

LiveWire

Member
LJ11 said:
Livewire man, you hold onto the ball forever trying to get Moss open, I zone blitz or rush four the majority of the time, I only sell out to stop the run on occasion. Seriously you should have talked to me about it right after the game. And I love how you quote 4 sacks in the second, two of which I got in the last 3 minutes of the game when you were running up the score in the redzone.

Playaction to Moss, well I had my DE run contain and came after you. But yeah I guess I cheese blitzed.

Whatever I don't need this headache, I've scrimmaged with you at least a half a dozen times, you never complained once. I haven't changed my game, I play the same way each and every time.

Forever trying to get to Moss? I had a total of 3 looks to Moss that entire game. 1 drop and 2 TD passes. The other 13 pass attempts were to my other receivers, who I've hit consistently every game of this season for 1, 2, 3 passes each. I've had several games with 6 or 7 receivers catching the ball. I spread it around as best I can. I try to hit Moss when I can, who wouldn't? It's the freaking Patriots.

And no, every other time you played me, I never saw the auto-sack/stuff-runner bullshit.

LJ11 said:
Edit: You could have talked to me after the first game if you had complaints about the way I played. If I was just "cheesed" by someone, I would A) Let them know and B) Never play them again. You did neither, in fact you were ready for "Round 2" asap.

Everyone hates losing in this league, and everyone complains. I complained about this exact behavior with Ando to FMT and FMT didn't seem to think anything of it. So, instead of trying to complain to you about it, I wanted to try my best to beat you, and I did, despite you still trying the same shit again.
 

LJ11

Member
LiveWire said:
Forever trying to get to Moss? I had a total of 3 looks to Moss that entire game. 1 drop and 2 TD passes. The other 13 pass attempts were to my other receivers, who I've hit consistently every game of this season for 1, 2, 3 passes each. I've had several games with 6 or 7 receivers catching the ball. I spread it around as best I can. I try to hit Moss when I can, who wouldn't? It's the freaking Patriots.

And no, every other time you played me, I never saw the auto-sack/stuff-runner bullshit.



Everyone hates losing in this league, and everyone complains. I complained about this exact behavior with Ando to FMT and FMT didn't seem to think anything of it. So, instead of trying to complain to you about it, I wanted to try my best to beat you, and I did, despite you still trying the same shit again.

Livewire, I'm being totally honest with you. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY, NOTHING!! I played the same way I did in my previous games with you, there's no reason for me to lie about it.

I don't mind losing, I've never complained once about losing in the past, and I'm not complaining about losing this time. But when you win win with class, that's what I'm bitching about. I didn't realize I was being such a shady player. Like I said, if I feel a Pass is coming I Pass Commit to get my guys into better position and avoid being duped by the play action pass.

You were sacked 5 or more times in 5 games, without including our two meetings, I'm not the only one getting pressure on you.

I try to play sim football, I don't really motion, don't swap my WR's since that poll went up, I'm not into gimmicks. I wouldn't be in this league if that's the way I wanted to play, I would just play random guys online.

There's no changing your mind about what kind of player I am, what's done is done.
 

Andokuky

Banned
What is so cheese about the auto sack man? As you already mentioned twice, you brought up the same bullshit in our game. It's just a part of Madden. Sometimes you call a blitz and guys get right in. It happens for me sometimes, it happens against me sometimes. Don't you think if there was some cheese play that generated that type of pressure up the middle, it would be well known and long since banned? I mean, wtf is "cheese blitzing"? After you quit on me in the second quarter down 28-0, you also complained because I threw a 20 yard post on 3rd and 15 from my own 1 or 2 yard line up 21-0..... early in the second quarter. Maybe your Madden cheese radar is just off a bit?
 

Rorschach

Member
Every time I've played LJ, he's played legit. He doesn't seem, to me, like the type of guy that would cheese and it's not like he needs that 1 win so bad to get into the playoffs or whatnot. In fact, LJ was the one that brought up the 3 line cheese blitz thing. If he was a cheeser, he would have just kept it to himself and raped the shit out of everyone.

And, honestly, you do hold on to the ball a long time , Live. :X You've been sacked more than anyone in the league.
 

LiveWire

Member
Whatever, I'm tired of hearing all this bullshit whenever I win a game. Because my record in the past has been bad, everyone writes me in as a free win, and then when I don't roll over and lose, here comes the bitching.

So, I pick the best team instead of my beloved Redskins for one season to try and get some practice with a bit of an advantage to improve my Madden skills for next year, and everyone pulls out all the stops trying to beat me just to rub it in. But when I win it's BS. Whatever.
 

LJ11

Member
LiveWire said:
Whatever, I'm tired of hearing all this bullshit whenever I win a game. Because my record in the past has been bad, everyone writes me in as a free win, and then when I don't roll over and lose, here comes the bitching.

So, I pick the best team instead of my beloved Redskins for one season to try and get some practice with a bit of an advantage to improve my Madden skills for next year, and everyone pulls out all the stops trying to beat me just to rub it in. But when I win it's BS. Whatever.

Livewire, you deserved to win the game. I'm not complaining about losing, but when you're up 31-0 late in the 4th, call the dogs off. If you would have run the clock out, I wouldn't have said a word, but you just kept pouring it on.

I don't write anyone in as a win, and I definitely don't try to rub in wins. I took knees in the redzone in our first game, you were the one calling time outs, so I kicked the FG on 4th down.

Edit: I've said this in the past, if anyone has complaints about my game, PLEASE BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION! How else am I going to know that I'm doing something wrong. You can PM, message me on Live, or AIM, but please just tell me about it so I know going forward.
 

Rorschach

Member
LiveWire said:
Whatever, I'm tired of hearing all this bullshit whenever I win a game. Because my record in the past has been bad, everyone writes me in as a free win, and then when I don't roll over and lose, here comes the bitching.

So, I pick the best team instead of my beloved Redskins for one season to try and get some practice with a bit of an advantage to improve my Madden skills for next year, and everyone pulls out all the stops trying to beat me just to rub it in. But when I win it's BS. Whatever.
Oh come on now with the persecution complex. Who else has complained? Haven't heard anything from the other 5 people you beat. I could have missed it, though...
 

LiveWire

Member
LJ11 said:
Livewire, you deserved to win the game. I'm not complaining about losing, but when you're up 31-0 late in the 4th, call the dogs off. If you would have run the clock out, I wouldn't have said a word, but you just kept pouring it on.

I don't write anyone in as a win, and I definitely don't try to rub in wins. I took knees in the redzone in our first game, you were the one calling time outs, so I kicked the FG on 4the down.

And that's your prerogative. I wanted the ball back to try and win. The game before our games, ChrisJames rattled off 17 straight points in the late 3rd and 4th quarter to tie the game and force overtime. I was once up 21 points in that game.

And what, the league isn't allowed to have 35+ point scores? So I have to score 35+ in the first half and then let you back into the game before I can add more points? Wellington dropped 45 on me, 14 of them in the 4th quarter when he was up 31-14. He deserved the scores and the win, he thoroughly whooped me on offense and defense and special teams. I still say you're bitter about getting stomped. Like I said, I never had a problem before, and I never saw that type of game from you.
 

Andokuky

Banned
In other news... roster am up for those that don't know. I would have expected better ratings for the leagues #2 defense but oh well. There must be some sort of invisible ability certain defenses get because Denver's defense has better rated players but isn't nearly as good imho.
 

Andokuky

Banned
LiveWire said:
And what, the league isn't allowed to have 35+ point scores? So I have to score 35+ in the first half and then let you back into the game before I can add more points? Wellington dropped 45 on me, 14 of them in the 4th quarter when he was up 31-14. He deserved the scores and the win, he thoroughly whooped me on offense and defense and special teams.

Why is that kind of logic ok for you to use but when I am up 21-0 early in the second quarter and have 3rd and long inside my own 3, I should run the ball right into another heavy run blitz according to you.
 

LiveWire

Member
Andokuky said:
Why is that kind of logic ok for you to use but when I am up 21-0 early in the second quarter and have 3rd and long inside my own 3, I should run the ball right into another heavy run blitz according to you.

In your case I was more pissed at the auto-sack BS. You're right, the pass was legit and I shouldn't have complained about that. Anyway, we need to ban the auto-sack. It's just too easy to get pressure with, it works just as well as manually moving a lineman or spreading the D-line.

Anyway, that's the last I'm gonna post about it. My complaint has already been registered with FMT in the past and I'm wasting everyone's time here again. If we can even finish this season between the dead 360s and lack of interest. :/ Maybe PS3 will be our saviour in 2008?
 

Andokuky

Banned
LiveWire said:
In your case I was more pissed at the auto-sack BS. You're right, the pass was legit and I shouldn't have complained about that. Anyway, we need to ban the auto-sack. It's just too easy to get pressure with, it works just as well as manually moving a lineman or spreading the D-line.

Ban the auto sack? It's RANDOM. That's like trying to ban bullshit fumbles or ninja AI interceptions. I "auto sacked" you one time from the 46 formation with a play I use many times a game with only 1 blitzer. Just so happens that one time your QB dropped after a couple seconds. There's no way to ban it.
 

Rorschach

Member
I just downloaded the roster update. Lots of bullshit stealth downgrades and a couple of bullshit no-changes. The bright side is that I got one awesome, LONG overdue upgrade that makes me smile. :D
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Yeah, I noticed some stealth downgrades. I see my Center Bentley has gone from an 87 to an 84, and seems like I'm missing a guy or 2 on my OLine.
 
I'm on LJ's side. I played LiveWire last night and felt like he was extremely lucky to pull out the overtime win. I felt like I dominated most of the game and he scored on 2 lucky pick6's (as did I eventually), but the point is that I felt like I deserved the win and he was pissing me off during the game :lol

I wanted to beat the Patriots with the Falcons, that would have been the shiiit.

-Gunstar, Shawn, Slo when can you play?
 

LJ11

Member
No hard feelings Livewire! You've been a very nice guy in the past, I don't want this to loom around. I apologize if my play bothered you, I'll make sure to correct it going forward.

Sorry about the drama, I should have just messaged you on AIM. Livewire has always been a stand up guy, and it would've been a better idea to work it out between the two of us, rather than have it posted on the board. Lack of judgment on my part made this bigger than it should have been.
 
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