ValiantInstance
Member
Wow, wasn't expecting a 9070XT to clear a 4080 with factory settings. Ran cooler too.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Kilau
Member
OverHeat
« generous god »
Astral got pwned again by a freaking MSI gaming trio…kind of glad I got my money back on the astral
The GPU is stock setting no added OC
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//DEVIL//
Member
my GPU score reached 2925 Mhz. Thats high up there.Astral got pwned again by a freaking MSI gaming trio…kind of glad I got my money back on the astral
The GPU is stock setting no added OC
I dont care about MSI cards. I want Astral and nothing else. I even had tuf for lower price and didnt want that.
I love the Astral. not interested in cheap plastic card like gigabyte or msi vanguard or below when i am spending that much money.
Also I believe manual OC the Astral is the best card according to Jay2cent.
OverHeat
« generous god »
The look is unmatched you are right. And I only boosted 22 MHz higher than you. 2947
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Gigabyte and many other cards have lots of metal in their builds.
But glad you like the Astral! It’s a sweet looking card.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
mine
www.3dmark.com
only better than 98% of people worldwide
I scored 28 556 in Time Spy
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
only better than 98% of people worldwide
28556
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
that's amazing, congrats! back to the drawing board on my end
STARSBarry
Gold Member
that's amazing, congrats! back to the drawing board on my end
its because of the intel processor used, it has far more cores so annihilated you on the final processor part due to the core advantage, the only way to score higher would be to get one of the new 9950X3D's without lowering gaming performance. Anything else will lower your real world gaming performance, even if it timespys better.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Yeah, agreed. Intel is going to be pretty unbeatable in these benchmarks. Still gonna try though lol
Also the OC's I'm performing are just for benchmarking and I game at stock. I'm perfectly content staying stock for actual gaming as no game actually needs an overclock with this rig.
//DEVIL//
Member
I wanted the astral because of the 12v each pin sensor. This is available for astral. That’s why I want this card in case my cable decided to shit the bed.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Sure! Understandable. A total of only 3 confirmed worldwide cases of this issue actually happening though.
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//DEVIL//
Member
I know but it’s just for my peace of mind. If I am spending this much money. Might as well get the most features in the card.
I really like the design of Astral. The 4th fan addition even if it’s a bit useless is still nice. Not #metoo like what gigabyte decided to do by adding a 5$ fan in the box to top of the card and screw it.
The little things matter. Rgb sync with my Asus motherboard. The look and feel of the card. Temps are nice too. Overall all it’s the card I always wanted and I would not trade it for any other card. I don’t care if my card is the fastest or not. I undervolt my card anyway to 2700 MHz at 0.85v and my temps don’t reach 60 under silent bios. With almost no impact that I can feel per game.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Oh, totally understand. Get what works for you best for you man. Astral is probably the best air cooled 5090.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
New (and likely final) score:
analog_future
- TimeSpy - 39370
That's about as far as I can push it without really having to go overboard to eek out every last extra FPS. Which I'm not willing to do.
analog_future
- TimeSpy - 39370That's about as far as I can push it without really having to go overboard to eek out every last extra FPS. Which I'm not willing to do.
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OverHeat
« generous god »
You OC is what 125 on core 100 memory on gpu?New (and likely final) score:
That's about as far as I can push it without really having to go overboard to eek out every last extra FPS. Which I'm not willing to do.
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gooner4life_uk
Member
edittttt that was old
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I think it was 250 core 1500 memory. But OCing on these cards is weird and almost seems to act as a suggestion instead of a concrete setting.
Rossco EZ
Member
What??
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
coldest Intel processor.What??
Makoto-Yuki
Gold Member
Port Royal. I’ve not done the bike one. Still to buy it. If I ever do. I’m done benching. 35.8K is the highest I’m gonna get in Time Spy. That’s with PBO on and overclocking the 5090. Can’t push the GPU any higher and I’m not gonna try manually OC the CPU.
GudOlRub
Member
I did the benchmark with a bunch of apps open and half my ram was being used by firefox. I reckon I could squeeze a few more points out of it but honestly I don't care, and I'm happy if AMD actually begins competing with Nvidia.
Your CPU temps are a bit fiery though, 85º is the absolute maximum I've seen mine achieve.
ValiantInstance
Member
Yeah I'm considering getting an AIO. The x3Ds run hotter than normal CPUs.
UnrealEck
Member
Mines is way cooler than my old 12th gen i5.
But I have undervolted it a touch.
Makoto-Yuki
Gold Member
I have 360mm AIO. 7950X3D ran cool but it is limited to 89C because of the cache location as it is more sensitive to heat. You can’t use PBO. You can turn it on but doesn’t do anything. Higher power consumption I ever saw was about 150W. Highest ever clock speed was 5.75GHz.
9950X3D however doesn’t have this problem because they moved the cache. Can turn PBO on and it can hit 5.92GHz, 280W and 95.2C. AMD cpus are designed this way so even with a 360mm AIO it will still push the CPU to 95C.
This is extreme situation. I was running ycruncher. Doesn’t run much hotter in normal/gaming usage. My AIO can still cool it down to 32C idle. In gaming doesn’t really go over 70C.
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What??
LMFAO! This was probably an error. My temps rarely go above 75. I monitor my CPU temp with HWiNFO64. I also have overheat protection with core temp and if the cpu goes above 90c the computer turns off. I just ran the benchmark again and the temp shows as it should. Updating my original post with the new run.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I fucking broke 3 pin on my mobo!!!!! Because I tried to install the cpu with the case in vertical positionI’m without a computer for at least 3 days
Bro you did what? You installed a CPU in a case while it was standing vertically?
PaintTinJr
Member
Whereabouts on the board? pictures ? I would have thought there's an easy workaround with a soldering iron for most things with a mobo other than cracking the layers in the board.I fucking broke 3 pin on my mobo!!!!! Because I tried to install the cpu with the case in vertical position
OverHeat
« generous god »
It’s was not my first rodeo doing it like that but never againBro you did what? You installed a CPU in a case while it was standing vertically?
Unknown Soldier
Member
My 3090 is still trucking along, it no longer is really capable of doing RT in any meaningful capacity as games have really ramped up their RT requirements
But it's coping well enough with MH Wilds, probably because of the purity of my heart
Makoto-Yuki
Gold Member
Should we do a new leaderboard with a more modern and demanding benchmark with RTX?
What about Port Royal? that is included in 3Dmark.
Not RTX (I think) but Steel Nomad is really demanding. It only takes exactly 1 minute and is include with 3D Mark.
I feel that Time Spy is too dated. My GPU isn’t even hitting 100% usage. It’s going as low as 80%. This is a 9950X3D / 5090 system.
www.3dmark.com
and my DLSS test. yey for fake frames
www.3dmark.com
I was gonna put mine in vertically but unplugged it and lay it down. Good thing because I had to remove a mounting bracket and detach the top of my case where the AIO is.
What about Port Royal? that is included in 3Dmark.
Not RTX (I think) but Steel Nomad is really demanding. It only takes exactly 1 minute and is include with 3D Mark.
I feel that Time Spy is too dated. My GPU isn’t even hitting 100% usage. It’s going as low as 80%. This is a 9950X3D / 5090 system.
I scored 14 263 in Speed Way
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
and my DLSS test. yey for fake frames
I scored 0 in Nvidia DLSS feature test
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
How exactly did it happen? Why does the case being vertical cause this? Just awkward to seat it?
I was gonna put mine in vertically but unplugged it and lay it down. Good thing because I had to remove a mounting bracket and detach the top of my case where the AIO is.
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baphomet
Member
That's a settings issue. Unless you're CPU bound or have vsync on, then 3DMark is going to max your GPU pushing out as many frames as possible.
What settings do you mean? it's a benchmark issue I believe. Timespy is just kind of dated and they released Timespy Extreme in 2017 to fix some of the issues in the older Timespy benchmark. On timespy's percentage graph you often get sections where it's using less than 80% of GPU and CPU in the GPU test. On speedway it maxes out at 100% constantly for GPU.
The only problem with speedway is that it is purely a GPU test. I get about the same scoreI scored 0 in Nvidia DLSS feature test
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
How exactly did it happen? Why does the case being vertical cause this? Just awkward to seat it?
I was gonna put mine in vertically but unplugged it and lay it down. Good thing because I had to remove a mounting bracket and detach the top of my case where the AIO is.
I scored 14 814 in Speed Way
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
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Makoto-Yuki
Gold Member
i have a 9950X3D so not CPU bound. Vsync is OFF but i do get warning notifications saying to disable it. I have disabled it in nvidia app. not sure what to do.
PaintTinJr
Member
It isn't quite as simple as just having an amazing CPU and concluding you aren't CPU bound IMO, as shown in a lot of these benchmark comparisons between AMD and Intel, the AMD chips are clock bound and in comparison to the overclocked Intel chips, AMD chips are just posting expected scores that aren't exceeding or even equalling over performing Intel chips like that 20k CPU score for 13700K.
The benchmark seems to penalise overall score less by the strength of the CPU score. GPU score appears to set the range and CPU sets the penalty for the overall score in the range. Single threaded performance is still an underlying bottleneck of every asymmetric multicore workload, so Intel chips getting all core clocks above 5.5Ghz are doing amazing numbers from what I can see.
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Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
But can it run Crysis?
baphomet
Member
What settings do you mean? it's a benchmark issue I believe. Timespy is just kind of dated and they released Timespy Extreme in 2017 to fix some of the issues in the older Timespy benchmark. On timespy's percentage graph you often get sections where it's using less than 80% of GPU and CPU in the GPU test. On speedway it maxes out at 100% constantly for GPU.
The only problem with speedway is that it is purely a GPU test. I get about the same score
I scored 14 814 in Speed Way
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
Time Spy will max your GPU, that's the entire point of it. It should stay at 100% and pump out as many frames as it possibly can. If Your CPU is hitting 100% trying to push out 400+ fps then your GPU may still have some headroom.
If you were maxing out the test there wouldn't be other 5090's scoring ~10,000 higher than you in graphics. Of course those are probably liquid nitrogen cooled and boosted super high, but they're not even maxing out the test.
Time Spy Extreme is higher resolution, so it'll stress the CPU less and the GPU more.
They're also synthetic benchmarks. They mean fuck all in real world scenarios. Especially gaming.
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How do you figure? Are you talking about the 10k CPU difference? My gpu score isn't 10k lower. Speedway it says above average too for 5090s. The GPU score in timespy doesn't scale very well, Timespy Extreme was created for newer GPUs so that it doesn't hit other limits. A near 1/3 clock boost resulted in only 700 more points on 46,000 on old Timespy with a 5090. My GPU is hitting 400fps and showing 80% in those sections. It's clear it's hitting some other limit.
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