Official NFL off-season/Draft thread: party like its 1980! (niners #1 pick time!)

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Hayward signed by the Jags. We sooooooooooo needed a good Defensive End:)

Now to see if those rumors of Ty Law and the Jags come true haha.
 
raiders agree in principle with LaMont Jordan. that offense has the potential to be something VERY nice. only thing holding them back is Collins.
 
Pat Williams heads to Minnesota, and Jonas Jennings moves on to San Francisco. Good god did the 49'ers overpay for Jennings. a $12 million signing bonus, are you nuts?
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are the niners "nuts"? not according to 49ers-age.com :D

Hallelujah motherfuckers! We signed Jonas Jennings, finally solidifying the most important position on the offensive line. Now we can move beast-in-the-making Kwame Harris to the right side where he belongs. Some say we overpaid for Jonas (12 mil signing bonus), but that is like saying you overpaid for a condom that prevented you from getting genital herpes: you can’t put a price on the health of your penis (QB, as it were).
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what fantastic writing!!1
 
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damn, the Romanowski Vs. Williams trial started today (incident a year or so ago when romanowski beat the shit out of that TE in practice). looks like romo gave him the beating of a lifetime! put this roider in jail and deplete him of his financial assets!
 
Dallas got Anthony Henry CB and Ferguson DT. They are close to signing Marco Rivera, Guard. We need a safety now. And LB or DE.
 
Will Trotter really leave (ie or will the Eagles let him go?) WTF, he's the best we have in the front seven (well, besides Kearse). They have to know that. Oh well, I guess KC will do anything to help their D and he's probably as good as gone. Reid needs to go out and get another LB. Simoneau can't cut it.
 
Panthers get Wahle

Panthers land coveted offensive lineman

The Carolina Panthers made what's likely to be their biggest splash of free agency Thursday, agreeing to contract terms with offensive lineman Mike Wahle.

Terms of the deal weren't available immediately, but it's believed Wahle was seeking a signing bonus in excess of $10 million.

After spending the first seven years of his career with Green Bay, Wahle, 27, was released by the Packers in a salary cap move earlier this week.

Considered by many to be the top free agent offensive lineman, Wahle can play guard or tackle. It remains unclear where the Panthers plan to use Wahle, but they have pressing needs at right tackle and right guard.

Wahle, 6-foot-6 and 304 pounds, had his best years with the Packers at left guard, but played left tackle early in his career. The Panthers had problems on the right side of their line last season. Right tackle Adam Meadows retired in training camp and Matt Willig and Todd Fordham struggled to replace him. Right guard Tutan Reyes was inconsistent in his first season as a starter.

Wahle has started 83 of 97 games in his career and hasn't missed a start since 2000. Last season, according to Stats Inc., Wahle allowed two sacks and was called for three false starts and two holding penalties.
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http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/football/nfl/carolina_panthers/11042923.htm

:D

Carolina's also looking to beef up that secondary and Ken Lucas is in Charlotte today. It'd be awesome to land Lucas.
 
WILLIAMS THIS, WILLIAMS THAT!

Fucking right, with Kevin and Pat Williams at the DTs and Harris playing MLB behind them, we might actually be able to stop the run! :-O
 
Slo said:
WILLIAMS THIS, WILLIAMS THAT!

Fucking right, with Kevin and Pat Williams at the DTs and Harris playing MLB behind them, we might actually be able to stop the run! :-O
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damn, very nice. rams are looking to sign claiborne to be our MLB. Whats your opinion of him?
 
Panthers grab Lucas

FOXSports.com has learned that minutes after getting lineman Mike Wahle to agree to a major deal, CB Ken Lucas agreed to a massive contract that is believed to average $8 million per year over the first two years. The deal is also believed to have a split bonus and will total $13.5 to $14 million over those two years in bonus money.

Lucas was extremely attractive on the open market because of his size and athleticism. The Seahawks didn't re-sign him because they viewed Bobby Taylor as their No. 1 corner, although others around the league love the potential that Lucas shows.

Lucas has missed just two starts in the last four seasons and in 2004 had his best season by picking off six passes. Lucas will likely team with Chris Gamble as the starting corners for Carolina, although Ricky Manning, Jr. will figure into their plans as well.

As for Wahle, the Panthers are pondering whether to start him at guard or tackle but will likely begin with him at the left guard slot.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3436332

Moss-Coles swap "50-50 chance"

FOXSports.com has learned that the Jets have continued to keep a dialogue open with Coles and the team is scheduled to talk to Coles' agent Thursday regarding terms that could make the trade work.

If the Jets and Coles can come to terms on a new contract that both sides view as mutually beneficial, the Jets will make the deal. Redskins sources also said they were keeping hope alive that a deal would get done in the end.

"Yesterday there was a five percent chance of this getting done," said one source close to the situation. "Now I really think it's 50-50. We'll see how talks go (Thursday)."

Both Coles and now Moss are desperate to get this deal done. Otherwise, the Redskins will retain a player who clearly does not want to be on their team. The Jets will have a player who, like Coles, has become disappointed with his status on a club. It's expected that like Coles, Moss would also covet a new deal.

Moss and Coles have actually talked about their swapping of locales. Coles has not only told the Redskins his feelings, he was even at the Pro Bowl as a guest of Jets star DE John Abraham and has a great working relationship with QB Chad Pennington.

Several people inside the league said Wednesday they caught wind that talks had started again as Coles may be softening on his stance. The Jets are encouraged enough to give it one last try.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3435522
 
soulja224466 said:
damn, very nice. rams are looking to sign claiborne to be our MLB. Whats your opinion of him?
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Adequate but unremarkable. He played outside for us, and he was definetly the best that we had, but that's not saying much. Our other two LBs were a rookie and a second year guy, and they were both completely lost in pass coverage so they got picked on more than Claiborne did. I dunno, he didn't seem like a playmaker. Despite being out 4 games with injury he had 98 tackles so he was producing, but you almost never saw him stickin' a guy for a loss, or making a key open field tackle. Nobody on the Vikes really did, with the exception of Winfield. I was suprised to find out his numbers were that good. Maybe he's the guy getting dragged for a gain of 12 and gets credit for the stop? :lol

I mean, he's only a 6th year guy, and he didn't stand out in either Detroit or Minnesota. Not exactly a glowing resume...
 
Slo said:
Adequate but unremarkable. He played outside for us, and he was definetly the best that we had, but that's not saying much. Our other two LBs were a rookie and a second year guy, and they were both completely lost in pass coverage so they got picked on more than Claiborne did. I dunno, he didn't seem like a playmaker. Despite being out 4 games with injury he had 98 tackles so he was producing, but you almost never saw him stickin' a guy for a loss, or making a key open field tackle. Nobody on the Vikes really did, with the exception of Winfield. I was suprised to find out his numbers were that good. Maybe he's the guy getting dragged for a gain of 12 and gets credit for the stop? :lol

I mean, he's only a 6th year guy, and he didn't stand out in either Detroit or Minnesota. Not exactly a glowing resume...
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I read the first paragraph, i couldn't tell if you were talking about the rams LB's or the vikes :lol

Just read he signed a 3yr/$10M deal, not too expensive. Let's hope he pans out, he's better than robert thomas anyway.
 
soulja224466 said:
I read the first paragraph, i couldn't tell if you were talking about the rams LB's or the vikes :lol

Just read he signed a 3yr/$10M deal, not too expensive. Let's hope he pans out, he's better than robert thomas anyway.
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Alot of people in Detroit didn't like Claiborne, I loved him though. The two things he's inconsistent but full of potential. He wasn't alway noticable. But when he did make plays they were HUGE(many game changing).
 
Redskins are going to trade Coles, hopefully for Moss, which along with Samuels' restructured contract, will give them plenty of cap room since Coles commanded a big contract. Moss won't get near the money. Plus, they're unloading Rod Gardner as well. A completely new recieving corps will take the field in Washington next year and all I can say after all the dropped balls is good riddance.

Rabach helps the line, whom along with a healthy and well-paid combo of Samuels and Jansen will be so much better than last year it's not funny.

I'm said to see Antonio Pierce go, he's been a great role player for years, but dems the breaks. Gregg Williams had reserves start all last year with most the Redskins defense out and I'm sure he'll do it again. Chris Clemons played well in limited action.

And for the record:

THE REDSKINS ARE ABSOLUTELY, DEFINITELY NOT INTERESTED IN SAMARI ROLLE!

... I hope the re-sign Fred Smoot.
 
Odoul said:
Alot of people in Detroit didn't like Claiborne, I loved him though. The two things he's inconsistent but full of potential. He wasn't alway noticable. But when he did make plays they were HUGE(many game changing).
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sounds good to me. now we just need a free safety and we might have something resembling a defense lol.

i hear tama say the jags were interested in trading donovan darius? You think a second round pick would pry him loose?
 
Giants close to signing Antonio Pierce! Talks fell through with Kendrell Bell, but this may work out better. They are also talking to Jay Williams of the Dolphins... which isn't a good move IMO. He's already been in the league for 10 years, we got Strahan on one side and Umenyiora on the other. That's like the best bookends in the league!

Giants are not interested in the shitty offer from the Browns for RB Willie Green. No thanks friends! They are instead interested in resigning Mike Cloud and increasing his carries behind Tiki.

Kareem McKenzie, guard for the NY Jets will also be meeting with the Giants. We are also interested in former Titans tackle Fred Miller.

And... Giants will wait until the market is set for... Plaxico Burress. :D:D:D:D:D:D

This news hot off the presses from my boy Tommy C.

I also leaked the story to the daily news. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/286194p-245054c.html

Edit: While at this point I would say I am going to OWN in Madden next year, It won't matter because each of these players will have their ratings hit rock bottom soon as the Giants sign them! Go EA!
 
I really like the Antonio Pierce signing by the Giants, he's only 26, he's a no-nonsense guy, and Big Blue didn't have to break the bank on him (those rumors of giving Kendrell Bell a $15 million signing bonus made me want to put someone through a wall!). I was expecting the Giants to make a move for O-line/WR help early on but they needed an upgrade at LB almost as much.

Might as well add that the G-Men finally cut Ike Hilliard today. He made some big plays here (he was excellent in 2000 when the Gants won the NFC) but he's been injured so much that he just doesn't have the speed anymore. He might be a decent 3rd or 4th option on another team but his dismal season last year won't help him find work.
 
Fifty said:
Mason's signing should be great news for the Ravens. I'm still afraid he might tank after the saga of Kevin Johnson, but I've got high hopes.
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Same here.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
are the niners "nuts"? not according to 49ers-age.com :D



what fantastic writing!!1
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Yeah, but the only problem is Jennings has never completed a full season in his career. EVER. He's as injury-prone as you can possibly get. Honestly, I don't remember watching a single game where he didn't limp off the field for at least a few plays. When he's on the field, he can be good, but it's keeping him on the field that's the problem.
 
Willco said:
Redskins are going to trade Coles, hopefully for Moss, which along with Samuels' restructured contract, will give them plenty of cap room since Coles commanded a big contract. Moss won't get near the money. Plus, they're unloading Rod Gardner as well. A completely new recieving corps will take the field in Washington next year and all I can say after all the dropped balls is good riddance.

Rabach helps the line, whom along with a healthy and well-paid combo of Samuels and Jansen will be so much better than last year it's not funny.
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Preach it. I'm thrilled to see our receiving corps get an overhaul and our line get some help. We're addressing our major problems from last year while freeing up some much-needed cap room. Finally, some fiscal conservatism in Washington. I love it.
 
Willco said:
Redskins are going to trade Coles, hopefully for Moss, which along with Samuels' restructured contract, will give them plenty of cap room since Coles commanded a big contract. Moss won't get near the money. Plus, they're unloading Rod Gardner as well. A completely new recieving corps will take the field in Washington next year and all I can say after all the dropped balls is good riddance.
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Thank God. After the horrors of enduring "50-50" Rod Gardner and Laveranues "free shoes, ouch I hurt my thumb" Coles I'd be glad to be playing 40-something Jerry Rice. At least he won't drop the ball half the time.
 
Redskins signed WR David Patten last night. This means that if Rod Gardner is not traded, he will be cut outright.

And word is that the Moss-Coles is looking like it's going to go through because the Jets are now willing to entertain Coles contract demands.

With Antonio Pierce gone, the Redskins will likely make a run to sign Fred Smoot and hope Mike Barrow and some draft help will fill the void left by Antonio Pierce.
 
Lucky Forward said:
A few radio stations in Baltimore are reporting the Ravens have re-signed cornerback Gary Baxter to a multi-year deal.
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Hope so, last article I read in the sun online said not to expect a deal anytime soon...
 
Here's what I've heard so far on Plax:

Meanwhile, the Minnesota Vikings are considering the possibility of signing Burress or Travis Taylor of the Baltimore Ravens to replace Randy Moss, who was traded to the Oakland Raiders.

"Plaxico's interested in being in Minnesota," Harrison told The Associated Press. "I think it is a good fit for both sides."

Nonetheless, Harrison told The Tribune-Review last night that Burress is not scheduled to visit the Vikings.

"We are just chatting," he said. "We are getting substantial interest and weeding through it. We really are trying to find the best situation. He is going to make money, no matter what. We have to find a situation where he can get used properly and really help the team and showcase his skills at the same time, one that Plaxico is comfortable with."

While Burress pondered his next move, Vikings officials met yesterday with Taylor.

Vikings coach Mike Tice had no comment on Burress, but he said Taylor "was recruiting us, really."

"We had a different strategy, but this young man is aggressively pursuing us," Tice said. "He's a fine football player. Very articulate young man and dresses well."

In five years with the Ravens, Taylor had 204 catches for 2,758 yards and 15 touchdowns.

"Travis Taylor is a player that is intriguing," Tice said. "He has not been explosive in this league. You look at that offense and see that not many people have been."
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Slo said:
Great, the Vikings may never win a Super Bowl, but atleast we'll be well dressed.
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:lol

I thought that was a very odd thing to point out as well. It's almost like saying, "Well, he can't play ball for shit, but boy, he sure dresses well."
 
Spectral Glider said:
:lol

I thought that was a very odd thing to point out as well. It's almost like saying, "Well, he can't play ball for shit, but boy, he sure dresses well."
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:lol

hmmm plaxico burress, or a WR from the ravens. Decisions......lol
 
Bills sign QB Kelly Holcomb. 4 year, $6.6 million deal, with a $2 million signing bonus. PErsonally, I felt he was the best backup QB available in FA this year, and is a good signing by the Bills.

Also, supposedly Ty Law is visiting Buffalo tomorrow. Law and Lawyer back together again?
 
Myllz said:
Bills sign QB Kelly Holcomb. 4 year, $6.6 million deal, with a $2 million signing bonus. PErsonally, I felt he was the best backup QB available in FA this year, and is a good signing by the Bills.

Also, supposedly Ty Law is visiting Buffalo tomorrow. Law and Lawyer back together again?
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SWEET! :D If Ty Law signs on that secondary is going to be RIDICULOUS. Comprised entirely of pro-bowlers! Troy Vincent, Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, Nate Clements. :D :D Goddamn what a solid D. :D
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
correction, FORMER probowlers. and what good is being a top CB if you can't stay healthy (which is the case with vincent and law)?
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Former pro-bowlers > Niners secondary!
 
wrong! niners secondary is going to be awesome this year. here is why:

1. move mike rumph to safety. he is 6'2 and hits hard, he was always meant to be a safety. now after 2 years of playing corner, he has the hitting ability to take runners out, and the coverage ability to cover WR's

2. draft carlos rodgers or antrel rolle (although rolle reminds me of rumph, except a lot faster). that way if ahmed plummer can still play football, we have good depth

3. shawntee spencer was a lone brightspot in our secondary last year. and he was a rookie playing on a team with no pass rush! he is the real deal

so for all those reasons and more we will be superior to buffalos D. you'll see how well buffalo operates without a huge presence in the middle (who just left to MN)
 
Myllz said:
Bills sign QB Kelly Holcomb. 4 year, $6.6 million deal, with a $2 million signing bonus. PErsonally, I felt he was the best backup QB available in FA this year, and is a good signing by the Bills.

Also, supposedly Ty Law is visiting Buffalo tomorrow. Law and Lawyer back together again?
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My pants just got a little tighter.
 
Bringing in Kelly Holcomb is an excellent signing by the Bills. Now they have some certainy at QB if Losman doesn't progress as fast as they're expecting. It'll be interesting to see the effect that'll have on the back-up QB market. Does this mean the Browns will try and bring in a stop-gap like Jay Fiedler or Brad Johnson?

The Giants also made another move today, bolstering the O-line (Hallelujah!!) by signing 6'6 327 lb Kareem McKenzie. Now they've got a real mauler anchoring the right side of the line and they can shift David Deihel back to guard. Although he's more run blocker than pass blocker I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants try him out at left OT in the preseason if they're worried Petigout will struggle like last year on that side.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
so for all those reasons and more we will be superior to buffalos D. you'll see how well buffalo operates without a huge presence in the middle (who just left to MN)
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Ron Edwards is the exact same size as Williams, and has more speed. Plus, the Bills still have Sam Adams. Nice try, but the Niners won't come CLOSE to the Buffalo defense.
 
The Niners will NOT draft Rolle or C. Rogers with the #1 pick, and I doubt anyone trades up for it. Niners are getting either a RB or a QB this year, like it or not.

edit:

I'll post a reupdated (without explanations this time) mock draft:

1. San Francisco 49ers
The Pick: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Cal
2. Miami Dolphins
The Pick: Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
3. Cleveland Browns
The Pick: Alex Smith, QB, Utah
4. Chicago Bears
The Pick: Cedric Benson, RB, Texas
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Pick: Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, RB, Auburn
6. Tennesse Titans
The Pick: Adam "Pac-Man" Jones, CB, West Virginia
7. Minnesota Vikings
The Pick: Mike Williams, WR, Southern Cal
8. Arizona Cardinals
The Pick: Derrick Johnson, LB, Texas
9. Washington Redskins
The Pick: Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan (Antrell Rolle, CB, Miami if Smoot leaves)
10. Detroit Lions
The Pick: Shawne Merriman, OLB/DE, Maryland
11. Dallas Cowboys
The Pick: Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
12. San Diego Chargers (via New York Giants)
The Pick: Marcus Spears, DE, LSU
13. Houston Texans
The Pick: Alex Barron, OT, Florida State
14. Carolina Panthers
The Pick: Troy Williamson, WR, South Carolina
15. Kansas City Chiefs
The Pick: Antrell Rolle, CB, Miami (or the best defensive player left on the board)
16. New Orleans Saints
The Pick: Thomas Davis, LB, Georgia
17. Cincinnati Bengals
The Pick: Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State
18. Minnesota Vikings
The Pick: Shaun Cody, DT, USC
19. St. Louis Rams
The Pick: Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
20. Dallas Cowboys (via Buffalo)
The Pick: Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn
21. Jacksonville Jaguars
The Pick: Matt Roth, DE, Iowa
22. Baltimore Ravens
The Pick: Roddy White, WR, UAB
23. Seattle Seahawks
The Pick: Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma
24. Green Bay Packers
The Pick: Channing Crowder, ILB, Florida
25. Denver Broncos
The Pick: David Pollock, DE, Georgia
26. New York Jets
The Pick: Khalif Barnes, OT, Washington
27. Atlanta Falcons
The Pick: Brodney Pool, S, Oklahoma
28. San Diego Chargers
The Pick: Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma
29. Indianapolis Colts
The Pick: Justin Miller, CB, Clemson
30. Pittsburgh Steelers
The Pick: Heath Miller, TE, Virginia
31. Philadelphia Eagles
The Pick: Darryl Blackstock, OLB, Virginia
32. New England Patriots
The Pick: Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraksa
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
wrong! niners secondary is going to be awesome this year. here is why:

1. move mike rumph to safety. he is 6'2 and hits hard, he was always meant to be a safety. now after 2 years of playing corner, he has the hitting ability to take runners out, and the coverage ability to cover WR's

2. draft carlos rodgers or antrel rolle (although rolle reminds me of rumph, except a lot faster). that way if ahmed plummer can still play football, we have good depth

3. shawntee spencer was a lone brightspot in our secondary last year. and he was a rookie playing on a team with no pass rush! he is the real deal

so for all those reasons and more we will be superior to buffalos D. you'll see how well buffalo operates without a huge presence in the middle (who just left to MN)
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I'll give you twelve reasons why the Bills D will be superior to that of the 49ers!

1) Takeo Spikes
2) London Fletcher
3) Jeff Posey
4) Sam Adams
5) Aaron Schobel
6) Chris Kelsay
7) Ron Edwards
8) Nate Clements
9) Lawyer Milloy
10) Troy Vincent
11) Terrence McGee
12) Mario Haggan

And an added bonus!

13) Ty Law (if he signs!)

I am not even a huge Bills fan, but that alone is enough! I will admit though, Spencer did impress last season.

McKenzie! :D Giants owning just that much more. :D

(I'm just messin' with ya', FMT. )
 
Oooh...Gary Baxter signs with Cleveland. Adding more bad blood to the rivalry ;)

edit: Rumors are floating on some radio shows of a Seattle-Miami Swap -- Surtain and the #2 pick to the Hawks for Alexander and the #23 pick. Doesn't seem like a bad deal.
 
Nice try, but the Niners won't come CLOSE to the Buffalo defense.
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pfft, we have superior linebackers and will have superior safeties once rumph is converted. now comes the question of corners. clements is the real deal, but troy vincent is an overrated injured bum who won't contribute jack. much like bobby taylor in seattle, it is being proven that these "great" philly corners are more a product of jim johnsons outlandish blitz schemes rather than pure talent
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
there is no way in fuck we are drafting aaron rodgers OR alex smith with the first pick. i will bet my avatar on it!
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You heard it Wellington! He bet his avatar!
 
Bowser said:
Oooh...Gary Baxter signs with Cleveland. Adding more bad blood to the rivalry ;)
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I just woke up and read the baltimore sun.... a disagreement in the signing bonus and just like that he's gone... in credible....
 
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