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Official NHL Offseason Thread of LOL Leafs and other loser teams in memory of Manics
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Kingpen said:Well.... I'm not totally happy with the Pens taking another Defensemen in the first round.... With the luxary of centers we have, we need something more then pylons to support them.
I don't think we have drafted a winger in a long ass time (maybe since Colby Armstrong in 2001)
Although having a glut of defensemen isn't bad for a team that likes to play firewagon hockey though....
Pens fans, be prepared for rent-an-average/under-average/over-the-hill winger for lots of years... that is simply the reality of having the star centers we have...
I'm just still happy as hell we were getting congratulated for winning the cup. And to Garth Snow for snubbing us with congratulations, I hope we torch the Islanders next year
We can have winger "issues" for a long time, as long as we keep winning the Cup due to good chemistry. WOO!
They only question when the losses pile up. After Double-B makes his mark and turns this team into a force, Cox, Simmons et all will become the biggest bandwagon jumpers in history. They'll be lathering up Double-B's nads after every move. Mark my words we're soon to be entering the golden age of Leafs hockey where all the years of losing will become a distant memory. Similar to how Wings fans only think of Cups now and don't remember the bad teams of the 80s. It's the best time to be a Leaf fan now. I can't wait!!R_GILL said:
You should be more concerned about Gainey's answers last night regarding progress in getting a first line center. He said something to the effect of "it's a long process, we'll be making changes well into Sept/Oct" :lolSolo said:
Let me translate that for you :
"no Lecavalier, we won't do anything come July 1 so other teams can get anyone worth getting and figure out their cap sitautions. Then when they're ready they can trade us a 3rd/4th liner who I'll hail as a number 1 center for our team. Prudent and responsible that's Bob Gainey"
Im not saying that this is a great time to be a Habs fan, just finding your Leafs fan comment to be funny given Burke's all bark, no bite approach to this years draft.
Actually, in a sense this is an interesting time to be a Habs fan. Even though its rebuild time, at least with all those UFAs we've got, were going to purge a lot of dead weight from the team.
Actually, in a sense this is an interesting time to be a Habs fan. Even though its rebuild time, at least with all those UFAs we've got, were going to purge a lot of dead weight from the team.
Solo said:
Ah but here's the difference with Double-B. He said he would make a deal if there was one to be made. Throwing the media and fans into a frenzy, that's not his fault, he didn't promise he'd get Tavares, just try to. When it was obvious that the Isles wouldn't trade their pick and he could only move up to #2 there was no point. Double-B isn't going to give up a promising defensive prospect for another defensive prospect at the #2 slot.
Had it been another GM instead of Double-B, they would have caved to the media pressure calling for the trading of Schenn just to make a splash at the draft. Double-B calls his own shots, he's not going to cave in to pressure from media or fans. What a breath of fresh air. He wasn't forced to pick a French Canadian player either to appease a large crowd. :lol
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Mancs is right. Burke never made a promise, and was pretty clear the last few weeks that the trade tAlks were going bad. Leaf fans just heard what they wanted to hear. Anyways, kdri is an exciting player and should be a good part of our team.
They're just trying to make up for the fact that they let the best one go.fallout said:Oilers take another Swede!
I guess I'll be following the Swedish Elite League a little more closely this year.
well fuck, the Oilers get Rajala too. I thought they didn't like small players?
Can't believe he slipped all the way to #101.
Could be an amazing steal for Edmonton, if they have patience with him and let him develop.
From what I understood, he wanted a guaranteed roster spot, which the Oilers weren't willing to offer, so he took the big money in the KHL instead. That could all just be internet bullshit, though.pringles said:
Oilers don't like small players? What? Where on earth did you get that idea? Cogliano, Gagner, Pisani, Hemsky, etc.
ForzaItalia
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Who was the first French guy taken in 2005? I ask because had the Habs drafted 1st, they would have passed over Sid the Kid for the French dude...
Well maybe they don't dislike small players, but they told Omark he was a small guy and they don't need more small guys, which is why they gave him a shitty offer and why he chose the KHL. Nilsson has a damn roster spot on the Oilers. Omark is 10x better than him.fallout said:
:lol How long has your tag been changed, r_gill?
Besides, weren't we all just saying that the Oilers throw players into the NHL too quickly, anyway?
Nilsson also has NHL experience and has gotten better of the past little while. Omark is unproven in a professional league and while that might change this year (and I fully expect it to), it's still a little unreasonable to demand a lot at entry level.pringles said:
Besides, weren't we all just saying that the Oilers throw players into the NHL too quickly, anyway?
Oh, shit. I didn't realize he'd been playing in the SEL. Must have gotten him mixed up with someone else. Apologies.pringles said:
Either way, I don't think the Oilers would just dump this guy for just any stupid reason. They may have let him slip away on them, which would be certainly disappointing. Still, he'll be excelling in the KHL this year, shouldn't you be happy?
fallout said:
Omark and Nilsson have both played for team Sweden, and Omark did very well on team sweden while nilsson was shit.
I really dont know why nilsson gets a roster spot on oilers. He is waaaay to inconsistant, plus he is a lazy player. Omark isnt lazy.
As for the rajala pick, it is quite baffling that oilers take him after saying omark he didnt had the size.
I guess this is the new oilers though since they cleaned house. Either way, a line with MSP-Lander-Rajala could destroy things.
I see happy days in Edmonton for sure.
fallout said:
nobody in sweden cares or watches KHL. The swedes want to see NHL players.
Foreign Jackass
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Are you crying about Tavares yet?ForzaItalia said:
Come on, we haven't even drafted a medium-to-high profile quebec player since Latendresse (a second round pick), and our last 1st round pick for a quebecer goes back to 1998. You're just talking through your ass.
Nilsson will likely be gone.
He's going to be thrown in as a sweetener (possibly with Tom Gilbert our Souray) in a trade.
He, along with Gagner and Cogliano, had a great season 2 years ago, but was crap this past year. Lazy, inconsistent, and soft.
I don't know what's so great about Omark. A few fancy shootout moves?
He should be given a shot, but he was in no position to demand a guaranteed roster spot. The Oilers have too many small players right now (Gagner, Cogliano, Nilsson, etc.) so they were hesitant in guaranteeing a spot for Omark before training camp... so they let him play in the KHL. There's an out clause in his contract so we can always bring him over next season.
As for Rajala, the Oilers were lucky he fell that far.
He could be a bust, but to get him in the 4th round is great risk/reward.
He's small, but these prospects are at least a few years away from the NHL anyway.
He's going to be thrown in as a sweetener (possibly with Tom Gilbert our Souray) in a trade.
He, along with Gagner and Cogliano, had a great season 2 years ago, but was crap this past year. Lazy, inconsistent, and soft.
I don't know what's so great about Omark. A few fancy shootout moves?
He should be given a shot, but he was in no position to demand a guaranteed roster spot. The Oilers have too many small players right now (Gagner, Cogliano, Nilsson, etc.) so they were hesitant in guaranteeing a spot for Omark before training camp... so they let him play in the KHL. There's an out clause in his contract so we can always bring him over next season.
As for Rajala, the Oilers were lucky he fell that far.
He could be a bust, but to get him in the 4th round is great risk/reward.
He's small, but these prospects are at least a few years away from the NHL anyway.
Pens drafted ULF SAMUELSSON'S SON, PHILIP. A round two pickup.
Fuck yeah.
And our first round pick, the creepy looking Simon Despres.
Here is a quick analysis of his career and game... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYdhRni_hb0
The maestro.
Fuck yeah.
And our first round pick, the creepy looking Simon Despres.
Here is a quick analysis of his career and game... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYdhRni_hb0
The maestro.
scissorfight
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i was surprised the wings didn't grab him earlierpringles said:
vatstep said:
No idea. As mentioned, I don't know anything about anyone after the top five picks of almost any NHL draft. All I know is that the Pens stocked up on large dmen in this draft, which is a smart move, considering guys like Scuderi, Gill, Eaton, and Gonchar will be moving on or retiring in the next few years, or during this offseason.
Looks like our first pick is another Kris Letang.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2YjsvTMRO0
Pens are gunna let Scuds test the waters. Looks like he is gone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2YjsvTMRO0
Pens are gunna let Scuds test the waters. Looks like he is gone.
Ray Shero said:
Me too. An undersized and weak but skillful euro sounds like a perfect fit for the Wings.scissorfight said:
I like the Wings first 2 picks though. Ferraro is exactly the type of player the Wings need, and Tatar is very promising and was great in the World Juniors.
He was 3rd in scoring with 55p in 53 games in the SEL this past season. He was by far the most fun player in the league to watch.Pochacco said:
Shootout moves is definitely not his only strenght. Actually he's more of a playmaker, and despite his relatively small size he's no pushover.
Here's some of his highlights from this season: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szWQPoOH2Rw
And what did you do this year? You didn't cave to the fans and draft a shmo instead of someone potentially better? "Heres a gift to the fans on our 100th anniversary season, this loser should make up for us getting swept"Foreign Jackass said:
The only reason you took Price when you did was due to the fact the draft wasn't in Montreal. Otherwise you woud have drafted the loser french guy. Nice way of running your team. Lol
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R_GILL said:
Now we will come in 9th in the EC. Thanks a lot.
That's exactly why they drafted him. Tsn interviewed Gainey right after the pick and asked if it was a "gift to the fans" taking a montreal born player. Gainey said he's aware of the tradition and knew what it would mean to the fanbase. Mission accomplished, crowd happy, Habs get a guy with a French name. Who cares if he can play. Lolghostface said:
kassatsu said:
I think so too.... they have to clear a little room to resign Gonchar/Letang next year for more money, and they know it.
Rob is great for us, but he is probably this years 'Jeff Finger' except with a ring. I expect some team to offer him 3 mil + and the Pens can't match that at all.
It will be a blow and a loss, but hopefully we can recover from it...
Buba Big Guns
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It's a great pick. Great skater, could be very good offensively, and an outstanding shut down defencemen. He would've went top 5, maybe even top 3 if it weren't for his injury. But he should be good to go now. Also his dad has a fuckin monster of a stache so you know he'll be real good.YakiSOBA said:tell me about this 1st round draft pick that the sens chose... some tall guy i have read, not much else?
EDIT: Ottawa also drafted a kid that goes to my uni. Pretty cool. He always chilled with average chicks though. Whatever floats his boat I guess. I did see him get a really hot girl's number though.
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