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Official North American Lost Odyssey Thread
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Kabuki Waq
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Himuro said:
honestly do you do this on purpose?:lol
gregor7777
Banned
Himuro said:
We can all get along. Eat the delicious fruit of both genres.
FateBreaker
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replayy said:
I find it amusing that people can't just wait one week for the US version. :lol Oh well, a purchase is a purchase.
intheinbetween
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clashfan said:
February, 29th
Is anyone with the game struggling with the difficulty of the boss encounters?
I got through the
after a few attempts, but the second boss
is nailing me. I've had so many goes at it that I'm nearly at the point where I'm just going to shelve the game and never go back to it.
I don't want to "grind" I think that is an incredibly poor game design.
It just seems totally unbalanced. You have trivial encounter after trivial encounter and then bam, uber boss and 2 hours or hair pulling retries later I'm ejecting the disk.
Am I doing something wrong? Any strategies? I think my party are around level 14 or 15.
I got through the
first boss, the griffon type thing
the worm
I don't want to "grind" I think that is an incredibly poor game design.
It just seems totally unbalanced. You have trivial encounter after trivial encounter and then bam, uber boss and 2 hours or hair pulling retries later I'm ejecting the disk.
Am I doing something wrong? Any strategies? I think my party are around level 14 or 15.
chinmonster
Member
Does the U.S. release still have the Japanese language track?
Greatness Gone
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Gamespy. :lolKingpen said:
I've played about 8 hours into Lost Odyssey, and it's excellent so far.
The thousand year dream text based stories sound like they'll be crap, but are really good.
The characters are great, especially Jensen, that guy has some great lines.
Enviroments are great, as are the graphics. Though there are occasional framerate drops.
The difficulty, it doesn't seem that bad to me. For the second boss
I've really enjoyed the difficulty of the game, not too challenging, not easy though.
Overall, seems an extremely solid JRPG so far. If you expect something mindblowing you'll be disappointed, but if you go in with an open mind you'll really enjoy the game.
Edit: Random encounters aren't much of an issue, as the encounter rate in most places is pretty low.
The thousand year dream text based stories sound like they'll be crap, but are really good.
The characters are great, especially Jensen, that guy has some great lines.
Enviroments are great, as are the graphics. Though there are occasional framerate drops.
The difficulty, it doesn't seem that bad to me. For the second boss
just attack it with its opposite element, water.
Overall, seems an extremely solid JRPG so far. If you expect something mindblowing you'll be disappointed, but if you go in with an open mind you'll really enjoy the game.
Edit: Random encounters aren't much of an issue, as the encounter rate in most places is pretty low.
Psychotext
Member
Are these not the DLC that's currently free in Japan?Kadey said:
Teknoman said:
Competence beyond the core design. I wasn't a huge fan of Blue Dragon, but it was utterly competent beyond just balancing hit points, magic points, damage output, and encounter timing.
And although it took more than a dozen hours, Blue Dragon did eventually start demanding something a bit more difficult than balancing a spreadsheet in combat.
Alex
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Where were all of the anti-turn based and classical people when Dragon Quest VIII came out? I remember certain people humping that and dropping 9's on it like no tommorow. It's a glorious game, DW1 was like my second or third game as a kid altogether and it's what got me into the genre, but it's hardly a tour de force of anything but a ton of hyper polished archaic conventions for genre nerds.
Granted, I really know betetr than to read reviews period, let alone RPG reviews from mainstream US pubs, but still
Also, I am a cult Suikoden fan, and I recall Suikoden V getting a near perfect score on Gamesspy, since that was posted... I'm not arguing quality, as I haven't played LO, but Suikoden V is a love song to Suikoden II, and thus is absurdly rooted in it's glorious classical nature. Different reviewers probably, I'm sure, but it'd be nice to see sites attempt to feign consistency.
There's just absolutely no logic to RPG reviews here in the west some times. It's like a bunch of this shit gets by on writers vying for some awkward internet cred on things like SMT and DQ.
Either that or they just wore all their 8-10 stamps out on the fucking eighty four million FPS's last year, most of which, gasp, play like they're ten years old!
Granted, I really know betetr than to read reviews period, let alone RPG reviews from mainstream US pubs, but still
Also, I am a cult Suikoden fan, and I recall Suikoden V getting a near perfect score on Gamesspy, since that was posted... I'm not arguing quality, as I haven't played LO, but Suikoden V is a love song to Suikoden II, and thus is absurdly rooted in it's glorious classical nature. Different reviewers probably, I'm sure, but it'd be nice to see sites attempt to feign consistency.
There's just absolutely no logic to RPG reviews here in the west some times. It's like a bunch of this shit gets by on writers vying for some awkward internet cred on things like SMT and DQ.
Either that or they just wore all their 8-10 stamps out on the fucking eighty four million FPS's last year, most of which, gasp, play like they're ten years old!
XHitoshuraX
Banned
Alex said:
Ok...how many years ago was Suikoden V? And on what system?
This game is fantastic, dont get me wrong, but I stand by my stance that while incredible, Lost Odyssey plays like a PS2 2006 RPG.
Oh and SMT is nothing like DQ, or for the sake of argument, LO.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
um, a 2006 PS2 RPG plays exactly like a 2002 PS2 RPG, which plays like a 1998 square PSOne rpg. whats the fucking difference? if you like that type of game then you like it. you shouldn't have to make excuses
Twilight Princess
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DQVIII can get away with being turn-based because it's a DQ game, not that there is anything wrong with turn based rpgs. i don't think blue dragon is in the same league as persona 3 and vp2 tho.
i want to like and play this game but i absolutely detest random encounters, especially coupled with bad load times. >.>
i want to like and play this game but i absolutely detest random encounters, especially coupled with bad load times. >.>
XHitoshuraX
Banned
FrenchMovieTheme said:
Ok fine, so LO plays like PSOne Square rpg? I said I enjoyed the game, an opinion on gameplay isn't an excuse darling.
Alex
Member
XHitoshuraX said:
I didn't say SMT was like DQ
Plays like a 2006 PS2 RPG? Is that supposed to be bad? I think that's when Valkyrie Profile 2 came out. There's nothing you can do on 360 that you cannot do on PS2 in terms of gameplay, and LO came out in 2007.
That said, I thought the argument raised against LO was that it played like an old FF game? That's where my question came in, DQVIII just came out a little while ago, and it plays like it's from 1986. What exactly happened there that made it so exempt to what BD and LO are getting reamed by?
It's not just the traditional turn based either. Tales is an old series, Star Ocean is an old series, it's all old, just being of the traditional nature doesn't make it worse to a lot of people.
It also seems like an arguement squarely rooted to JRPG's. Bioware games are further and further busted derivatives of what they were back in the 90's as well, unless you wanna tell me slapping a Gears of War skin with terrible gunplay and AI somehow aided mass effect.
Then there's shit like Halo 3 multi player raving, I recall doing the same thing, only far more fun and with a larger scale back on the Tribes.
I'm not trying to knuckle down on any game in specific to call it old or dated, I want to know what happened in the last year to make everything without guns suck.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i don't know, i haven't played it, but from the videos it is basically similar to a standard turn based RPG. the same RPG's we've been playing for 10+ years. i don't think most people who like j-rpg's play them for their wildly innovative gameplay.... at least i don't! that's what john madden is for!
madden 09 is coming bitches! confirmed by EA!
Himuro said:
It's a good example, especially since I did the Persona 3 review (and gave it a fairly glowing 4.5). I think I covered most of the issues with Lost Odyssey in my review (here). It's not the "next-gen effect" so much as the "not as good as last-gen games" effects. It's entirely possible to do classical style games and not do tired, broken down gameplay. Lost Odyssey, in particular, could have given the option to move battles a bit faster (even just by cutting animations), could have done something a bit more complex and compelling than "casters in back, hitters in front, hit as hard as you can and heal carefully," or could have had a story that wasn't a mash-up of other, better stories and themes.
It's not an atrocity of a game, but it's not as good as it could have -- and should have -- been.
AgentOtaku
Member
*reads Alex's rant*
concured!
concured!
Alex
Member
Then that is absolutely fucking retarded, and I assure you I am a far, far bigger DQ fan than most. Got the first one on the NP giveaway, bought all the NES games, I adore the franchise, but like I said, it feels like certain shit just gets by so the terrible, horrible, no good very bad writers that helm modern sites and mags can try to gain credibility with the cult bases.
CowboyAstronaut
Banned
Just saw Lost Odyssey commercial on Cartoon Network!
Glad to see Microsoft learning their lesson and finally advertising their Japanese titles because they surely didn't advertise Blue Dragon nearly enough over here in the USA or Europe.
Glad to see Microsoft learning their lesson and finally advertising their Japanese titles because they surely didn't advertise Blue Dragon nearly enough over here in the USA or Europe.
chinmonster
Member
Picking this up on day one... need to make room in the budget. Still just going to import the Asia version if the U.S. doesn't have a Japanese language track.
AgentOtaku
Member
chinmonster said:
I want the Asian version just for the boxart, but I have a US 360 =*(
here's hoping for a region free one from Playasia in the future
chinmonster
Member
AgentOtaku said:
Don't sweat not having a J-360... It comes in handy, oh, maybe once a year.
chinmonster
Member
Aaron said:
Awesome. Day one confirmed.