Coin Return
Loose Slot
I had no idea there was a stealth section until I read people were having problems with it. I don't understand why this is considered a difficult part of the game. Just don't walk out in front of the drones.QVT said:
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Official North American Lost Odyssey Thread
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Magicpaint
Member
Does this happen just once?Coin Return said:
I actually didn't mind it much. It's pretty easy.
Coin Return
Loose Slot
Just get through it, it's a 15 minute section of a 40+ hour game. You know not to run on the different colored tiles, right?
Jamesfrom818
Banned
I heard this has a New Game +. What carries over?
I hate the way we here on gaf get on the hype trains, or totally drag games through the mud; but I honestly believe that Lost Odyssey is one of the 5 best JRPGs ever made. I'm about 30 hrs in and I am continously amazed by this game. The story is incredibly powerful, and nothing short of moving. The opening scene of the game is among the best ever, and it stays intertesting (at least as far as I have gotten). The combat is simple but fun, the boss battles are a kick, and the only thing that has really irked me about the game is my own stupidity with some of the puzzles.
I know a bunch of people say that disc 2 is slow, but I thought that it was nice because I needed some time to recover from what had happened earlier in the game.
I know a bunch of people say that disc 2 is slow, but I thought that it was nice because I needed some time to recover from what had happened earlier in the game.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Boo. Apparently New Game + just has all the immortals start at level 50. I was hoping for the skills and items to carry over.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
And here I thought you meant FFIV, VI, CT and Secret of Mana.QVT said:
I actually love how the game doesn't bother explaining why you get a Game Over if the party dies in combat. No, I don't want to hear about the explanation if it does get around to it.
I'm kind of curious to see what the average length of play is. I see some people are saying 40 hours, and I am at the last section with over 70 hours invested (I have done most of the side quests).
Great game, and probably the second or third best RPG on the Xbox 360 right behind Mass Effect and Oblivion. That's good company to be in.
Great game, and probably the second or third best RPG on the Xbox 360 right behind Mass Effect and Oblivion. That's good company to be in.
Yeah, stupid lack of explaination.
This kinda blows, this flower fight. Can't I just kill the kids instead? Fuck those flowers, I want to use them for my own personal gain. Actually, I don't care, I just can't beat the fight afterwards.
Ah, I've found a place to level. It'll take a while to get up to 19 or so but I should be able to beat them then.
Are those kids playable or do they just tag along?
Second edit: it appears level 19 is not enough. More grinding required. All for some stupid flower.
This kinda blows, this flower fight. Can't I just kill the kids instead? Fuck those flowers, I want to use them for my own personal gain. Actually, I don't care, I just can't beat the fight afterwards.
Ah, I've found a place to level. It'll take a while to get up to 19 or so but I should be able to beat them then.
Are those kids playable or do they just tag along?
Second edit: it appears level 19 is not enough. More grinding required. All for some stupid flower.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Jamesfrom818 said:
Yeah it's kind of weak.
Although I guess in a way it's nice for the walkthrough/FAQ/achievement fans who want to get everything on their second play.
Yes i got stuck on that fight too. The way i did it eventually was to take out the three guards at the front as fast as possible but use Jansen to keep my party full health ( with zephyr). Then once i got to the horses i used some bombs i had bought in the Numura shop and kept Jansen hitting the horses with black magic. It was genuinly as challenging as a boss fight though.
FateBreaker
Member
I've been exploring the first true area/dungeon - Ipsillon Mountains - and I've got to say...I'm loving this game!! Seriously, "love" So far it's an A in my book.
OK, more play. But I had to drop in and preach to the choir.
OK, more play. But I had to drop in and preach to the choir.
You guys want to hear about a troubling fight? I have the king mack daddy...
And that is how babies are made.
The Ghost of the Eastern Ruins...I made it to him at around level 78 or so with Kaim, Ming, Sarah, Seth and Jansen. I beat his blue goo thing no problem...then I took out the first body guard easy...after that there was no hope. I would beat down the 2nd guard with everything I had and he would cast self sacrifice which revives the other guard and gives full health to the boss. I tried taking the boss out but physical attack did 1 to 2pts of damage and anytime he dropped more then 5-10k the guard would self sacrifice.
I called a friend to ask how he beat him...he said equip a level 3 fire ring (Sun Ring)...I had neiter...my ring selection was pathetic. After about 35min of fighting I gave up (They could barely hurt me but I could not finish either becasue I only dished out 2-4k damage at a time and they had 30K+ hit points...
I reloaded my save went in with the Ultimate Hit once the guards appeared and double cast gamble on the main guy with everyone...killed his bitch ass no problem...then on to the guards I worked them down to less then 1k each and the next turn finished the job easy as pie...what a bitch that whole dungeon was
I called a friend to ask how he beat him...he said equip a level 3 fire ring (Sun Ring)...I had neiter...my ring selection was pathetic. After about 35min of fighting I gave up (They could barely hurt me but I could not finish either becasue I only dished out 2-4k damage at a time and they had 30K+ hit points...
I reloaded my save went in with the Ultimate Hit once the guards appeared and double cast gamble on the main guy with everyone...killed his bitch ass no problem...then on to the guards I worked them down to less then 1k each and the next turn finished the job easy as pie...what a bitch that whole dungeon was
And that is how babies are made.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
bathala said:
How is mentioning a game feature a spoiler?
A spoiler would be
You find Lirum, the daughter that falls of a cliff, in Numara but she dies shortly after reuniting withher
I havent been able to play since wednesday when i reached Gohtza Low Town.
Now that some have mentioned exploring, i remember before reaching Gohtza that i went back to north cape?, the edge at the sea near the mansion where Kaim flashback happens which you can actually visit.
Its a very small area with 2 treasure chests i think but its a beautiful setting with the sky and all the flowers dancing with the wind.
It may be one of the settings that where mentioned in the gamastura article. A lot of people may miss that spot, you really dont need to go there, but it was crafted with care and detail even if its a small area. It looks much better than some sections at Numara for example.
Now that some have mentioned exploring, i remember before reaching Gohtza that i went back to north cape?, the edge at the sea near the mansion where Kaim flashback happens which you can actually visit.
Its a very small area with 2 treasure chests i think but its a beautiful setting with the sky and all the flowers dancing with the wind.
It may be one of the settings that where mentioned in the gamastura article. A lot of people may miss that spot, you really dont need to go there, but it was crafted with care and detail even if its a small area. It looks much better than some sections at Numara for example.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
Honestly I don't think any of the fights on the first disc are particularly difficult once you learn how strong the game values magic early on. Having Seth be the healing bitch while Jansen nukes away = victory, in pretty much every boss.
gregor7777
Banned
WarLox said:
wait...you can...what?
well, now that I think about it usually new areas have a save right away...
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
L0st Id3ntity said:I meant nothing out of the ordinary happens, you'll expect the ending a handful of hours before it actully unfold.
If you were touched by the "thing" in disc 1, the ending should pull something out of you, too.
Let's just say that, if there ever was Lost Odyssey 2, there is no way I see it being a direct story sequel... the odyssey, it's over.
That's cool. You got me really excited about the ending now. And yea, I was touched by that "thing" in disk 1. Didn't make me shed tears, but it was one of the sadder things I've seen in a video game.
Also, those four-disk replacements for LO's bad packaging, does it have a slit of plastic for the outside so I can put the coverart on the set?
I actually burst out laughing during the thing on disc one. I mean, part of it was the overwrough tearjerking, but part was I had just equipped Kaim with those goggles that teach you immunity to blindness so he's standing there with
The whole deal just reeks of an "aeris dies!!!" attempt. Especially considering its placement in the story. But maybe that's just me.
her dying and the tear rolling down his cheek being obscured by glasses that would make a 1990's NBA player blush was just so hilarious. Also those fucking kids annoy me so their pain made me happy
The whole deal just reeks of an "aeris dies!!!" attempt. Especially considering its placement in the story. But maybe that's just me.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
CowboyAstronaut said:
Well, no, I didn't mind Tolten's scene and I admit I haven't thought about it that way, but what did bother me was that the switch to that particular scene (as well as the entire chain events that lead to Lirum's death for that matter) happened in a very abrupt manner. I mean: you meet two kids after discussing flowers, you protect them from a bunch of ruffians, said infants invite you to their home and it just so happened that their mother is Kaim's daughter? What are the odds of that occuring? Not only that, but she died a few minutes after they met? Yeah... That happened way too fast and there wasn't any build-up to speak off, since she was already supposed to be dead! The whole transition could've been better if Mistwalker had taken their time to direct this scene, a scene that was supposed to be moving. Instead, I had to restrain laughter because everything happened oh so sudden with more melodrama than I could bear.
I also wasn't questioning Kaim's feelings towards Gongura after that scene, because it's only natural he'd want to avenge her after discovering the truth. But what I did find annoying, was that the developers considered this to be the perfect excuse to slowly devolve the story in yet another typical JRPG quest to stop the main villain from conquering the world... On the very first disc at that!
I don't know, Lirum's actual death just felt cheap to me. The potential for an interesting plot point was there, but Mistwalker blew it by rushing that particular moment. I know I'm repeating myself from here on, but the story told in "Letters of a Weakling" was much more emotional in my opinion. Quite a feat if you keep in mind that those characters are only mentioned in that side-story, whereas the game repeatedly showed Lirum plummeting off a cliff (albeit from different camera angles).
I also wasn't questioning Kaim's feelings towards Gongura after that scene, because it's only natural he'd want to avenge her after discovering the truth. But what I did find annoying, was that the developers considered this to be the perfect excuse to slowly devolve the story in yet another typical JRPG quest to stop the main villain from conquering the world... On the very first disc at that!
I don't know, Lirum's actual death just felt cheap to me. The potential for an interesting plot point was there, but Mistwalker blew it by rushing that particular moment. I know I'm repeating myself from here on, but the story told in "Letters of a Weakling" was much more emotional in my opinion. Quite a feat if you keep in mind that those characters are only mentioned in that side-story, whereas the game repeatedly showed Lirum plummeting off a cliff (albeit from different camera angles).
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Is it just me or are the random battles really few and far between?
FateBreaker
Member
Wow, this game is great. Have I said that enough?
Although I'm disappointing by the first two supposedly hard bosses. They were...really...easy. First time on both. =\ At least it's not ridiculously easy like BD's.
Although I'm disappointing by the first two supposedly hard bosses. They were...really...easy. First time on both. =\ At least it's not ridiculously easy like BD's.
chinmonster
Member
Meh. I haven't had much time to play, so now I'm in the Sorceress' Mansion. Not too bad, except for the miserable amount of random encounters.
Also loved the
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Also loved the
kerero wreath minigame
chinmonster
Member
You need to get this game. If you're into J-RPGs, it's a no-brainer.Hunter D said:
QVT said:
MicVlaD said:
agree on both counts. I was always really gunning for a save + console shut down when I got to this point in the game - if only I'd gone UP THE FUCKING STAIRS on the right to the bed chamber/save point. It just dragged and dragged and the whole sequence was so damn overwrought that I sat there and rolled my eyes. And my Kaim had pink earrings at the time. Laughable indeed. The songs are also all pretty horrible. I can't remember which bit has a theme ballad but I nearly died from how awful it was. I might be wrong but don't they show flakes of light fliying in the air in Final Fantasies to indicate tears? Much more effective than the mercury tears.
I hate the DREAMS. I want to play a game, not sit there and read pages of text. If I wanted to do that, I'd read a novel. The thing is, I tried to read them initially but then you kept running into people that'd awaken your memories and I was like "for fuck sake, I want to play the game." That's when I stopped reading altogether. The game seems to have so many sequences that stop gameplay.. either you end up reading or watching extended cinemas. Why did they
let you take over gongora
speech to killing the acolyptes
comment on the minigames.
MUSIC BOXES
LIGHTING LIRIUMS TORCHES + THE FUNERAL
She's DEAD. you go collect 10 flowers. Next go collect 10 sticks ... do it again in the same area you were just in. Then move the controller around to line things up and listen to some generic platitudes
Outside of combat, I'm now not even sure if I like the game. As mentioned, the main quest has completely disappeared off the radar on disc4.
CowboyAstronaut
Banned
OMFG I'm so pissed!
Fucking monkeys stole my best accessory!!!
Fucking monkeys stole my best accessory!!!
But all games are flawed. I mean, the dreams aren't that bad. Heaven forbid someone actually read for a while.
Most of the minigames so far blow though. I hate minigames those need to go. I understand what some of them are for, like the fetch quests before the funeral, they're there to sorta elongate the process instead of just being a cutscene but screw that, I'd rather have a cutscene then go try and find little bundles of word. I'm a motherfucking unkillable immortal badass who the fuck asks me to gather twigs.
Most of the minigames so far blow though. I hate minigames those need to go. I understand what some of them are for, like the fetch quests before the funeral, they're there to sorta elongate the process instead of just being a cutscene but screw that, I'd rather have a cutscene then go try and find little bundles of word. I'm a motherfucking unkillable immortal badass who the fuck asks me to gather twigs.
CowboyAstronaut
Banned
FoeHammer said:
The accessory stolen was very key to my improvement strategy for my characters. I was leaving out mack on purpose for the fact that I knew I wouldn't need him in my party as of this moment to take advantage of some of the cool abilities he offers. I was take the time to improve other characters, but with the specific accessory stolen I now will witness a major shake up to my previous plan.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
This is a silly logic, especially because you can skip the dreams by pressing B whenever they show up and read them elsewhere if you wish.Jax said:
Son of Godzilla
Banned
I just started the 4th disc. Any estimates on how long I got left?
Yeah i agree. Its a love hate relationship with this game. For every good thing it does, like a great cutscene, or great area to explore, there are a pretty equal number of annoying things that bring it down. If only they would have chipped away that excess crap, it could have been really great.Jax said: