Official Presidential Debate 2004 Thread

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Iraq is Hard Work. Hard Work. Watching this debate is Hard Work. Is it Necessary Work? I'm going to be Realistic and Optimistic at the same time and keep watching.
 
Uh, Kerry is contradicting past statements, he's distorting what Bush said. My goodness the post debate spin is going to kill him.
 
I wish that Bush would have had a chance to ask 'how' when Kerry said he could get nuclear weapons from north korea.
 
I GAURUNTEE you that tommorow the mainstream media will all be singing the same tune:

"WAH!! Bush was mean to John Kerry. He snapped at him! He's so MEAN."
 
Weak rebuttal from Bush. "But he does change positions." Saying the exact opposite of what your opponent just said isn't really the greatest debate strategy.
 
I thought Bush was on a roll for a bit, but this question has been awful.. and man, could he harp the flip-flop debate anymore.
 
Phoenix said:
I wish that Bush would have had a chance to ask 'how' when Kerry said he could get nuclear weapons from north korea.
"How?"

That should be tacked on to the end of any promise these candidates make regarding future policy.
 
Makura said:
I GAURUNTEE you that tommorow the mainstream media will all be singing the same tune:

"WAH!! Bush was mean to John Kerry. He snapped at him! He's so MEAN."

I don't think so. Bush has now taken control of the debate. Kerry had the edge early, but he has lost it now and that's what they will talk about - weak Kerry responses and not addressing the issues.
 
Phoenix said:
I don't think so. Bush has now taken control of the debate. Kerry had the edge early, but he has lost it now and that's what they will talk about - weak Kerry responses and now addressing the issues.
I would have said that a couple minutes ago, but I think Bush just lost some momentum right now. And this is pretty good rhetoric from Kerry right now.
 
"I understand what losing someone is like..."

Should have continued like:

"...but unlike the president, I've seen it first hand and not on a TV screen."

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OMG!!! That blank stare was classic! I love it.
 
The Shadow said:
"I understand what losing someone is like..."

Should have continued like:

"...but unlike the president, I've seen it first hand and not on a TV screen."

Edit:

OMG!!! That blank stare was classic! I love it.

Nah, low blow.
 
:lol @ dead air
"Fuck, I gotta debate that.. but HOW?"

And then he pulls out the flip flop card again.

This is great.
 
Kerry's "plan" doesn't involve any "how" and that's not going to win him undecided voters.

Bush needs to never say the "wrong war" speech again. It sounds too stubborn and narrowminded.

And is it just me or does Lehrer seem completely confused about what he's supposed to be doing?
 
Phoenix said:
Bush is certainly consistent. He keeps saying the same thing. Its like a Tivo rewind.

I agree, it's actually getting annoying. Ok, we get it, and it's a good point to make, however there is no need to have it as the main focus of your 90 second rebuttle and then another 30.
 
Ugh, poor response. They are guarding the oil ministeries because that's what the insurgents keep attacking.
 
Anyone expecting Bush to cry and his head explodes, so that it is revealed that he sent a robot in his place for the debates?
 
Are we taking bets on whether we'll have a question that DOESN'T concern Iraq before this debate is over?

Seriously though, the vibe I'm getting from this is Bush has EVERYTHING riding on Iraq and we're going to look like idiots if things fall through.
 
I can't belive he just repeated it AGAIN
 
So basicly it's trading a war for another if he's thinking he can get north korea to just hand over their nuclear weapons.
 
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