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Official RAW 07/11/05 Thread!

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<---------------is officially confuckingfused....Every wrestling site's forum servers are owned to shit.

But the more I think about it, I doubt its a shoot.. I mean..I doubt he could get from backstage to the ring, and get a working mic for 5seconds if he wasnt' schedule to be there.
 
Come on, guys. You can't tell if this is a work or not? :) You think they just so happened to have cameras on Edge and Lita in the spot Matt ran into them in the back? You think they let the cameras stay on him the entire time he was out in the ring?

They're just combining the real life stuff into a storyline angle. It's what everyone wants to see, anyway. :D
 
I feel bad, because once this angle runs its course, Matt will be back the mid-card level, and people wont even remember his name.....
 
I can't believe that some of you think this wasn't a work. He wouldn't have been backstage if they didn't want him there and he sure as hell wouldn't have re-entered the arena after attacking Edge in the first place.
 
Damn.....I thought Captain Charisma leaving for SD would=Dull Raw..

But last week the greatest wrestler who has ever lived makes a long overdue heel turn, and this week the only possible shocker that could top that, with Matt Hardy making his return...But damn, he had EVERYONE going with his last few thematthardy.com updates, bashing Lita,Edge, and the WWE big time.
 
This is way too confusing.... they do some stuff that looks like a work and some that's it's not...


But it's a work.... The Tape with edge,


The end of his no contest contract....


it's a swerve.... I swear.
 
Hah, yeah you can tell it's a work by the "cops" not being able to get the handcuffs on correctly and other stuff like that. Still though, I'm a bit surprised with the "You can see me in Ring of Honor!" stuff.
 
I dont really follow the WWE much anymore but im watching right now and was surprised at seeing matt come out after the ROH thing. That being said this is the only thing that raw has going for it right now. Thinking back to how bad ass the WWE used to be makes it painful to watch half of the BS they put out now. There is only one man who can save the WWE

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HERE COMES THE MONEY!!!!!!!
 
There's no way its a shoot but damn he mentioned ROH and called Edge by his real name and said WWE can kiss his ass. This shit is interesting...
 
I love Roddy!!!!


and I am starting to think this whole I hate edge thing is a big super work from the WWE, Lita, Matt, Edge, and his wife. They figure they start some shit while he is out rehabbing, make it like they are really cheating on Matt and edge's wife, put out some feelers about some cel phones, letting matt put up some shit on his blog, ect....

Just for it to turn out to be a big work, and give Matt some nice fanbase and get these 2 guys over big....
 
Nameless said:
But damn, he had EVERYONE going with his last few thematthardy.com updates, bashing Lita,Edge, and the WWE big time.

That was just damage control to not screw up the angle, cause prior to that the news had leaked that he had made peace with both Edge & Lita on a professional level.
 
aparisi2274 said:
I love Roddy!!!!


and I am starting to think this whole I hate edge thing is a big super work from the WWE, Lita, Matt, Edge, and his wife. They figure they start some shit while he is out rehabbing, make it like they are really cheating on Matt and edge's wife, put out some feelers about some cel phones, letting matt put up some shit on his blog, ect....

Just for it to turn out to be a big work, and give Matt some nice fanbase and get these 2 guys over big....



i think thats giving WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit to the writers to even kid about this
 
the_geche said:
There's no way its a shoot but damn he mentioned ROH and called Edge by his real name and said WWE can kiss his ass. This shit is interesting...

He didn't call Lita Amy which started to give it away. But gawd damn what a swerve. You gotta start to wonder now, HOW of what Matt has been posting on his website has been legit feelings as opposed to shit he posted to make the storyline more firery and his teturn to the WWE much bigger. I mean the last two updates especially were VERY intense.
 
ColdBlooded33 said:
I dont really follow the WWE much anymore but im watching right now and was surprised at seeing matt come out after the ROH thing. That being said this is the only thing that raw has going for it right now. Thinking back to how bad ass the WWE used to be makes it painful to watch half of the BS they put out now. There is only one man who can save the WWE

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HERE COMES THE MONEY!!!!!!!

Yeah, here comes the money all right. The last time he was on my television he was in a drawn out feud with Kane and on top of that somehow kicking his ass.
 
Undeniably Me said:
Yeah, here comes the money all right. The last time he was on my television he was in a drawn out feud with Kane and on top of that somehow kicking his ass.
Hell Shane was a better wrestler then Chris Master and some of the other on the WWE roster...
 
The sad thing is, if this all ends up being a setup from the beginning, JBL and HHH are gonna go "HAW THEM INTERNETS FAGS GOT SERVED LOLZ" and shit.
 
themadcowtipper said:
Hell Shane was a better wrestler then Chris Master and some of the other on the WWE roster...

That's true. I won't deny that he has credible ability in the ring and I respect that fact that he's willing to take high risk bumps when he doesn't need to. However, no one he feuds with really benefits because he's not a full-time wrestler. He just comes in and somehow manages to be Kane's near equal. If he feuded with a smaller star and left it wouldn't be a big deal but I don't see how it benefits Kane to sell for someone like Shane...

Edit: Also, it didn't help things when Shane disrupted Kane's feud with RVD and managed to somehow do better than RVD against Kane.
 
meh... Shawn Michaels is coming off as more of a tweener to me than a full-blown heel.

I miss the cocky Shawn Michaels of old.
 
I cant get on to the damn ROH forums. I really want to read the " OMG Matt Hardy" or the "ROH mentioned on WWE" threads which I know will be there.

I cant get onto any (respectable) forums to read stuff
 
themadcowtipper said:
immortality has a price... that can mean only one thing...Million Dollar Man comeback at Summer Slam
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... It couldn't be.... could it?... o_o
 
Nameless said:
Damn.....I thought Captain Charisma leaving for SD would=Dull Raw..

But last week the greatest wrestler who has ever lived makes a long overdue heel turn,.

Jumbo Tsuruta came back to life?! =O
 
aparisi2274 said:
I love Roddy!!!!


and I am starting to think this whole I hate edge thing is a big super work from the WWE, Lita, Matt, Edge, and his wife. They figure they start some shit while he is out rehabbing, make it like they are really cheating on Matt and edge's wife, put out some feelers about some cel phones, letting matt put up some shit on his blog, ect....

Just for it to turn out to be a big work, and give Matt some nice fanbase and get these 2 guys over big....

Some people are speculating that this may very well be the case, and that ALL of this (the cheating, matt getting fired, etc.) has been a huge work to throw off the internet fans/sites, and that for storyline purposes, it's all going to revolve around Kane, with Hardy teaming up with Lita, Edge, and Snitsky to beat the crap out of him for everything he's done. Some people even think that Matt's new girlfriend is made up, too.

Personally, I don't believe that, and it seems like way too much trouble to go through for MONTHS just to throw off a small percentage of the WWE audience. I do think some of the things Matt Hardy has said over the past week or so have been a work; it will be interesting to see exactly how much of what he's said the last few days has been real or not.
 
I know the hardy thing has WORK written all over it.

But with his indy bookings in ROH and elsewhere, the question is how long is his contract.

Why would Vinvce even let him MENTION a competitor on the air?

And Hardy your credibility is shot now, lets see, your fiance cheats on you, you get fired, they make a joke out of you on the air, then they top it off by firing your best friend in Shannon Moore.

I guess money does truly talk.

BTW: The www.Prowrestling.com site... is CRASHED! Damn this is bigger than I thought!
 
Lyte Edge said:
Some people are speculating that this may very well be the case, and that ALL of this (the cheating, matt getting fired, etc.) has been a huge work to throw off the internet fans/sites, and that for storyline purposes, it's all going to revolve around Kane, with Hardy teaming up with Lita, Edge, and Snitsky to beat the crap out of him for everything he's done. Some people even think that Matt's new girlfriend is made up, too.

Personally, I don't believe that, and it seems like way too much trouble to go through for MONTHS just to throw off a small percentage of the WWE audience. I do think some of the things Matt Hardy has said over the past week or so have been a work; it will be interesting to see exactly how much of what he's said the last few days has been real or not.
No Way, I can see the whole thing being a work, but the whole thing a work to screw Kane...noway, if so the greatest work ever.....
 
My guess is it turned into a work before they aired Matt’s video during the wedding, he must have agreed to return then…

...In my opinion it is possibly the best storyline ever mixing Real Life / Storyline and bringing out some kind of emotion in the WWE fans. I also believe internet fans/sites are much more than a small minority now and well over 50% of their audience knows about the backstage stuff and I am glad WWE are finally taking advantage of this.

Also Matt did a great job on the Mic

Matt Hardy said:
Adam you bastard, I am gonna make your life miserable...

Lita you whore I am gonna make your life miserable too!

..and the WWE can kiss my ass!!

(then after a fight with security)

Come see me at Ring Of Honor alright!!

(then when the security hold him down he repeats)

I’ll Stop, I’ll Stop, I’ll Stop, I’ll Stop!

It was a work, it got a great reaction. Fans popped, internet boards/sites are melting down with reactions. This shit is great!!!! (more WWE more!!!)
 
Why is Matt Hardy of all people crashing all these wrestling sites? Is what happened so out there people can't believe it?
 
Mrbob said:
Why is Matt Hardy of all people crashing all these wrestling sites? Is what happened so out there people can't believe it?
I would say it was the build up, for once the wwe did something right and did not blow it load at once...The internet fans wanted him to comeback and so did the fans at the last few shows....
 
the_geche said:
All the wrestling sites have crashed (except for WWE), this thing is big...


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