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I'm really hoping Bret "The Hitman" Hart will interfere at Summerslam and help Hulk win against HBK.

That would make for one of the greatest storyline conclusions in wrestling history.
 
Brian Fellows said:
After reading these threads the last few weeks it seems that Raw should just be all HBK all the time.
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Pretty much. He's the most entertaining thing on the show since his heel turn, and he's actually good in the ring. Angle is fun to watch too, and I like Jericho but he's being horribly misused. The rest of the show can die in a flaming trainwreck, and that goes double for the fucking bookers.
 
Raoul Duke said:
Pretty much. He's the most entertaining thing on the show since his heel turn, and he's actually good in the ring. Angle is fun to watch too, and I like Jericho but he's being horribly misused. The rest of the show can die in a flaming trainwreck, and that goes double for the fucking bookers.
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Yeah, pretty much.

This week's show didn't really need to be saved by HBK the way the other Raws have for the last month or so, but Shawn delivered the goods anyway.
 
Am I the only one that was pissed off that Hogan just kicked right out of the Angle Slam? I mean he didn't even TRY (or couldn't cuz he sucks) to counter it. That just made Angle look weaksauce til HBK came in...Damn the orange goblin!
 
BorkBork said:
Am I the only one that was pissed off that Hogan just kicked right out of the Angle Slam? I mean he didn't even TRY (or couldn't cuz he sucks) to counter it. That just made Angle look weaksauce til HBK came in...Damn the orange goblin!
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The angle slam is looking like a backdrop more and more everytime. Atleast before he used to do a half twist.
 
By the way, Ashley already did do a playboy photoshoot ...under another name,


hmmm... Mackenzie Ryan

Her fake boobs look wierd... like that they're natural or bad boob job :lol
 
BorkBork said:
Am I the only one that was pissed off that Hogan just kicked right out of the Angle Slam? I mean he didn't even TRY (or couldn't cuz he sucks) to counter it. That just made Angle look weaksauce til HBK came in...Damn the orange goblin!
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What are you talking about? Everyone kicks out of the Angle Slam now.

If anything made Angle look weak, it was Hogan posing for ten minutes before attempting the leg drop.
 
not ot be "fantasy booking summerslam" or anything


but man hbk just cannot take a solid 1 2 3 loss to hogan, there has to be some sort of swerve, because I seriously dont give a shit about hogan anymore, yes I admire what he did for the sport, but cmon Hulk brother you cant "GO" in the ring anymore, be a color commentator, or something.
 
During Hogan's last stint in WWE, he jobbed to a lot of people including HHH, Angle, Undertaker, Lesnar, and Rock. I don't see why he wouldn't be willing to job to HBK.
 
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Is this not the funniest headline ever?

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Also, think back to: "Bret SCREWED Bret"

ooo!
 
I just wanted to add:

Whenever there's a televised event in montreal... YOU JUST KNOW SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN :P

The events in montreal are always awesome these days :D
 
Nameless said:
LMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo..............


OMMMMFAG....Words can cannot express how happy I am to see the TRUE HBK back in his pureest form for the first time since Stone Cold beat him at WM 14
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This was BRILLIANT tonight. BEST WRITTEN SHIT IN AGES.
 
HBK was awesome.. I was confused.. I mean, HHH talks for 10 minutes, no one really cares and I change the chanell.. HBK talks for 20 minutes and people in the stands are actually thinking of killing him.
 
I have a hard time believing that people really thought Bret would walk out through that curtain. WWE's infamous for curtain jerking the crowd. But it was a perfectly done teaser, and will probably get 'em a few more buys for Summerslam if ANY online rumours regarding Bret being backstage surface this week.

HBK has just been terrific the last few weeks, getting back to being one of the best heels in the modern era. The Hogan/Larry King skit, the impromptu high kicks on "Larry", Jerry and the camera man just adds spice to this turn. The shoot interview last week was on form, and Hogan did the expected by throwing Bret's name out there (gotta hand it to the geaser, he's never missed a trick). And Monday night was just classic Shawn...shooting on Bret, working the crowd, letting the crowd go crazy and knowing when to get back in and feed off their response. It was classic heel shit talking 101. Bret isn't gonna get anywhere near this angle...I doubt we see him before 'Mania, if he shows up at all. But Shawn sure left the door open for such a possibility. And I think he'd give Bret fans what they wanted if he was to return...I think HBK's moved a long way from the backstabbing bitch he used to be back in the day.

On a side note, I thought Edge's shoot last week was just incredible, though in some ways it was harmful to Matt since he completely wiped the floor with his return speech. Hell, Edge basically said that much in his shoot ("...all this time you were gone with all those feelings festering inside, and that was the best you could come up with?"). I know a lot of people here hated Edge long before the Lita thing, but he was fucking gold on the stick.

BTW, just found this while Googling...can't say I'm terribly surprised.

Source: PWTorch

-- Several backstage sources, both on Michaels’ and Hogan’s side, have said that there is some real tension between them, and that the two just don’t like each other. A lot of people are worried about Hogan and Michaels making shoot comments on each other, which some backstage felt Michaels has already done, especially during his promo on RAW.

There has been a lot of paranoia backstage over one particular comment that Michaels made during raw, where he said “You’re just one move away from your star being snuffed out, just ask Bret Hart.” Some feel that this was a message to Hogan, saying that if he tries to play hardball on the finish of their match, Michaels could swerve it.

The word “screw job” has been thrown around regarding the confusion over the finish of the match. Although any type of real life screw job on Hulk Hogan is extremely unlikely, it may be used as a storyline to further push the angle between the two. Nonetheless, with all of the tension between the two, it’ll be interesting to see what happens next.
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http://www.twnpnews.com/messages2/13481.shtml

I cannot see a real life screwjob happening here...but could they do an angle where it's made to look like one? Probably wouldn't be the worst angle in the world, assuming it's the main event. It'll just add to the "OMG BRET'S GONNA COME OUT!!" zanyness.
 
StoOgE said:
HBK was awesome.. I was confused.. I mean, HHH talks for 10 minutes, no one really cares and I change the chanell.. HBK talks for 20 minutes and people in the stands are actually thinking of killing him.
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It's because HBK plays off the crowd, while HHH plays off himself.
 
i was laughing so hard when shawn was saying



"Nothing would thrill you more then to have one of your heros like bret the hitman, or hulk hogan come down that aisle .....and just give me......... *swings fists widly* oh just give me... WHAT FOR!"



looked hilarious
 
For those that still care....

Matt Hardy, Lita and Edge were the special guests tonight on Byte This on WWE.com. Here are highlights from the show, which lasted less than 18 minutes.

- Todd Grisham hosted, with Matt Hardy in the studio, while Edge & Lita were "via satellite from their home".

- Edge blasted Matt Hardy for dragging their personal lives onto the Internet, and commented that Matt Hardy acted like a "sixth grader". Edge said that Matt Hardy's "movement" has now "gone in reverse". Hardy laughed in response.

- Hardy (who kept saying "Amy" and "Adam Copeland", while at the same time mentioning their work names) said that he was "disappointed" in Lita, saying he had trusted her more than he trusted his brother Jeff, and she stabbed him in the back.

- Hardy said Edge is in his wrestling character "24/7" and all he cares about is being a "main eventer".

- Hardy said Edge has had multiple marriages before 30, and Edge responded that Hardy is 30 and acts like he only had one relationship in his whole life. Edge said he has made mistakes, but he admits to them, he doesn't cry about it like Matt does.

- They accused each other of living out their wrestling characters "24/7".

- Lita was asked about having her personal life dragged out into the public. Lita said that she made a mistake going behind Matt's back, but she's admitted to that, and she can go to sleep at night with a clear conscience. She admits she has made mistakes, but she fell in love with Edge, and won't apologize for it.

- Lita said it is hard to watch Edge and Matt Hardy go at it, but she will be by Edge's side at Summerslam.

- Matt says it is sickening to him to see Edge and Lita together, and he can't stand it.

- When asked about his music being played during the Edge-Lita wedding, Hardy said he loved it, since it just "fed the monster" and that brought him back.

- Edge said Matt is verbally and physically inferior to him, and referenced Matt's promo of two weeks ago versus the one Edge cut last week. Matt stuttered at one point, and Edge remarked on his speaking skills.

- They traded insults, with Edge saying Matt "talks in wrestling promos".

- When asked about Matt Hardy's comment from two weeks ago on Raw that he hopes Edge dies in a car accident, Edge said that Hardy "needs a life" and he must have said that because he was afraid to face him.

- Edge said he is Bill Gates, and Matt is a "hobo with a sign that says ' Will wrestle for food'."

- Edge said it is time to "Nut up or shut the fuck up" and walked off with Lita.

- Hardy said there is no one that can stop him from hurting Edge at Summerslam. He called him a "piece of shit and a lying scumbag bastard" and said that he was Edge's "worst nightmare", and he would show it at Summerslam.
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...I guess I am still kinda intrested in how this turns out...
 
Anyone know where I can download footage from the Bret Hart 'Montreal screw job' incident? I've never seen it on torrent.
 
Keyser Soze said:
For those that still care....



...I guess I am still kinda intrested in how this turns out...
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Heh, Edge owned Matt's ass yet again...Hardy really needs to work on his mic skills.

For the screwjob thing, just use any half decent file sharing program. Kazaa's bound to have a few versions of it.
 
CLASSIC HEEL PROMO. Michaels had the crowd in the palm of his hand from the get go, then turned it up to 11. I'm honestly shocked that nobody rushed the ring to try and get at him. :lol

Man, for 10 minutes it felt like old-school DX days all over again. So much heel heat garnered the right way - on the mic - as opposed to bullshit backstage vignettes and whatnot. Where are the up-and-comers to carry the torch? The only guy I can think of in the WWE who could possibly trigger the same kind of reaction (back before he hit the glass ceiling and stopped caring) is Jericho.

HBK pwned Montreal eight ways from Sunday. Awesome.
 
Matt has said on his website many times that he is still friendly with Lita. They are through as a couple though. Meanwhile, Edge is trying to patch things up with the 2nd wife he has cheated on so far. Man, he truly is a scumbag :lol
 
bishoptl said:
CLASSIC HEEL PROMO. Michaels had the crowd in the palm of his hand from the get go, then turned it up to 11. I'm honestly shocked that nobody rushed the ring to try and get at him. :lol

Man, for 10 minutes it felt like old-school DX days all over again. So much heel heat garnered the right way - on the mic - as opposed to bullshit backstage vignettes and whatnot. Where are the up-and-comers to carry the torch? The only guy I can think of in the WWE who could possibly trigger the same kind of reaction (back before he hit the glass ceiling and stopped caring) is Jericho.

HBK pwned Montreal eight ways from Sunday. Awesome.
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you know your right bish


I mean I would say angle was a DEFINATE torch carrier for michaels but hes got injuries that sooner or later will cut him short. I agree with jericho, and thats a shame about him, Id say christian is another one to keep an eye on also

(note I only mentioned workers who are AWESOME in the RING and on the MIC)
 
Christian is good (and has improved immensely in the past 18 months) but he's not close to matching Jericho at full strength. Funny, because Christian and HBK have similar builds (ie. not the typical big-men that Vince likes to push) you'd think that they'd try something similar. A DX-style faction for Christian to run, it's not like there aren't enough guys on Smackdown who could use the TV time in a stable. He can talk, he can garner crowd heat, and anything has to be better than this peep show nonsense.
 
When Gangrel & the Brood were gallivanting about (best entrance EVER in the history of wrestling btw), Christian wasn't on the stick. Gangrel certainly wasn't the most charismatic fellow around, and Edge could barely string two words together.

Now Gangrel's gone, and Christian is inarguably better on the mic than Edge is. Let the man run his own faction!
 
bishoptl said:
Christian is good (and has improved immensely in the past 18 months) but he's not close to matching Jericho at full strength. Funny, because Christian and HBK have similar builds (ie. not the typical big-men that Vince likes to push) you'd think that they'd try something similar. A DX-style faction for Christian to run, it's not like there aren't enough guys on Smackdown who could use the TV time in a stable. He can talk, he can garner crowd heat, and anything has to be better than this peep show nonsense.
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I am hoping for a Benoit/Christian fued reaching it's peak at WM. But looking at the Smackdown spoilers, seems like he will be going in another direction for now. That direction should bring some AWESOME matches.


edit-I remember Dave Meltzer saying years ago that Christian could/should be the bigger star out of him and Edge. I thought he was smokin' something, but it turns out Dave was 100% right.
 
bishoptl said:
When Gangrel & the Brood were gallivanting about (best entrance EVER in the history of wrestling btw), Christian wasn't on the stick. Gangrel certainly wasn't the most charismatic fellow around, and Edge could barely string two words together.

Now Gangrel's gone, and Christian is inarguably better on the mic than Edge is. Let the man run his own faction!
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The brood was AWESOME. AWESOME. AWESOME. AWESOME.

*listens to Gangrel's/The Brood's entrance theme*

Like you said, best entrance ever. (and I'm talking about the overall entrance, not just the music.)
 
Man someone explain to me WTF this guy is talking about
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:40 P.M.]: - Hogan put over Stephanie McMahon's delivery of good material for the current storyline with HBK. He also believes that despite HBK's finding God, Shawn Michaels' promo from RAW indicates that he still possesses demons inside.
^-Raped
STSeltz [9:40 P.M.]: haha what
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:40 P.M.]: - Hogan put over Stephanie McMahon's delivery of good material for the current storyline with HBK. He also believes that despite HBK's finding God, Shawn Michaels' promo from RAW indicates that he still possesses demons inside.

WhatAboutRaven2 [9:41 P.M.]: bolded it so itd be easier for you to see
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:41 P.M.]: even Hogan throws around common knowledge that you didnt know a few days ago
STSeltz [9:41 P.M.]: Holy shit I know he's religious
STSeltz [9:41 P.M.]: I said that
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:41 P.M.]: nope
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:41 P.M.]: you refused to acknowledge he threw around his religion in the business
STSeltz [9:41 P.M.]: that's because I've never seen a report that he throws it around
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:42 P.M.]: you dont read too much then
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:42 P.M.]: why would hogan bring up such a mundane detail if that was not the case?
STSeltz [9:42 P.M.]: that HBK is religious?
STSeltz [9:42 P.M.]: Maybe because he's OPEN about it?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:42 P.M.]: HBK's religion playing into his work?
STSeltz [9:42 P.M.]: WHat work?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:42 P.M.]: isnt that what I said
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:43 P.M.]: I have no idea
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:43 P.M.]: what's HBK do for a living
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:43 P.M.]: lets figure it out together
STSeltz [9:43 P.M.]: WHERE Does hogan say that he throws it around?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:43 P.M.]: WhatAboutRaven2<!-- (10:38:57 PM)-->: why would hogan bring up such a mundane detail if that was not the case?
STSeltz [9:44 P.M.]: I don't know. Ask him
STSeltz [9:44 P.M.]: maybe he hates religion?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:44 P.M.]: I need to know who your english teachers are, theyve obviously failed to educate you in observation and drawing details out of the box
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:44 P.M.]: why didnt hulk talk about the Rock's religion when they had a rematch
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:44 P.M.]: ??
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:44 P.M.]: oh I have no clue what a prick I cant believe he disregards god like that
STSeltz [9:45 P.M.]: yes taking a jab at HBK's strong religious feelings obviously means HBK uses them to get his way backstage
STSeltz [9:45 P.M.]: please
STSeltz [9:45 P.M.]: Show me proof
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:45 P.M.]: I did
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:45 P.M.]: weve talked about this before
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:45 P.M.]: we get a clipping today of Hulk Hogan bringing up his religion
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:45 P.M.]: I know youre such a blind mark for a piece of shit, its ok
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:45 P.M.]: so if that doesnt show you nothing will
STSeltz [9:46 P.M.]: yes and you STILL haven't shown me proof that HBK USES HIS RELIGION to throw his weight around
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: why would hulk hogan directly tag his religion into his promos if it wasnt?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: what is?
STSeltz [9:46 P.M.]: this is a promo?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: why was his religion even related to his work in wrestling?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: Please tell me?
STSeltz [9:46 P.M.]: For when?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: is your reading comprehension that pathetic?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: - Hogan put over Stephanie McMahon's delivery of good material for the current storyline with HBK. He also believes that despite HBK's finding God, Shawn Michaels' promo from RAW indicates that he still possesses demons inside.

WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: lets paste it for the third time
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: and read it out loud
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:46 P.M.]: the last three lines
STSeltz [9:47 P.M.]: dude
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: what deos Shawn's promo on RAW have to do with Christianity?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: what does it have to do with religion?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: why are they in the same sentence
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: the same subject?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: why?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: oh dont worry you dont have to answer
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:47 P.M.]: its ok
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:48 P.M.]: this reminds me of when christian got beat up by mexicans
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:51 P.M.]: http://tigerchef.ytmnd.com/
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:53 P.M.]: did I ever show you that old wrestlemania YTMND
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:54 P.M.]: aw youre gonna be a baby about it eh, so be it
STSeltz [9:55 P.M.]: Pardon me for getting some fucking food
STSeltz [9:56 P.M.]: yes you did show me that ytmnd
STSeltz [9:56 P.M.]: twice
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:56 P.M.]: whew nice
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:56 P.M.]: its refreshing
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:56 P.M.]: undertaker looking like crap against orton for his one minute flash reminded me of it, what a shame
STSeltz [9:57 P.M.]: I have a question:
STSeltz [9:57 P.M.]: when was this hogan promo?
STSeltz [9:57 P.M.]: SD?
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:57 P.M.]: it was an interview
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:58 P.M.]: http://nodq.com/news/126392049.shtml
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:58 P.M.]: you'll notice the second to last bullet is what I copied and pasted over to this IM screen
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:58 P.M.]: not once
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:58 P.M.]: not twice
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:58 P.M.]: but three times
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: Fuck man I know you posted it
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: I just don't see how you derive from it that HBK uses his religion to control what happens backstage
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: I posted that comment? Oh I didnt realize I was fabricating news on this site
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: wow
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: I only threw it in your face
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: about how they were both mentioned hand and hand
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: and you never responded
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: and then completely forget about it
WhatAboutRaven2 [9:59 P.M.]: youd be a good peon
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: Where does it mention THAT HE THROWS HIS WEIGHT AROUND?
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: WHERE?
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: WHERE?
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: WHERE?
STSeltz [9:59 P.M.]: All I see is a demon analogy
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: He also believes that despite HBK's finding God, Shawn Michaels' promo from RAW indicates that he still possesses demons inside.

WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: alright
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: shawn michaels promo on RAW
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: see
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: shawn michaels works for the WWE
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: he wrestles, he politics backstage, and he works the mic
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: now
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:00 P.M.]: Shawn Michaels is also religious, Christian more specifically, as far as the denomination Im not too sure
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:01 P.M.]: Christianity and wrestling don't really go hand in hand, now I know people like Mordecai, Hassan, and the Undertaker make religious references (aside from Hassan it was mild)
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:01 P.M.]: and of course Raven's stint in ECW
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:02 P.M.]: I find it a bit akward that God had to even be mentioned when describing Shawn's promo to Montreal, what was it putting over if there was no correlation between his religion and his work?
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:02 P.M.]: A mundane detail just thrown around as a consistancy?
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:02 P.M.]: I suppose so, right?
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:02 P.M.]: I mean Shawn is perfect
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:02 P.M.]: you know I was suprised when I found out Shawn was contracted with the WWE too
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:03 P.M.]: I thought they just got in the ring and fought for a paycheck everyweek
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:03 P.M.]: and the better man, or men stayed for that matter
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:03 P.M.]: I mean look at the jobbers against the new LOD, they dont stay for more than a week because they get wrecked
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:03 P.M.]: I hope you realize how much sarcasm is dripping from my typing right now
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:03 P.M.]: because right now I see you in a corner flailing around like an 8 year old who just found out santa doesn't exist
STSeltz [10:04 P.M.]: so the fact that hogan mentions it automatically means that HBK isn't religious, or that he's open about it, or that he walks around backstage wearing religious attire, but that he uses his religion for leverage to get special privileges from vince mcmahon?
STSeltz [10:04 P.M.]: I think you're drawing conclusions there
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:04 P.M.]: yep, Hogan mentioned HBK's ties to God doesnt make him religious
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:04 P.M.]: howcome Hogan doesnt bring up Christianity when he talked about Sting?
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:04 P.M.]: supposively religion has more of a hold over him than Michaels
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:04 P.M.]: oh well I guess Im drawing conclusions, michaels wouldnt ever throw his religion around
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:04 P.M.]: hes mr perfect
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:04 P.M.]: sorry once again
STSeltz [10:05 P.M.]: I'm not saying he doesn't
STSeltz [10:05 P.M.]: but you're drawing conclusions based on NOTHING
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: yep
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: just coincedences I suppose
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: youre right my bad
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: no amount of evidence would prove you otherwise
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: its ok
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: Im done talking to a brick wall
STSeltz [10:05 P.M.]: the fact that shawn is religious does not automatically mean he uses it and pushes it upon everyone else
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: Why dont you respond to Sting then?
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:05 P.M.]: huh?
STSeltz [10:05 P.M.]: Because #1: I don't know that sting is religious
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:06 P.M.]: I think this is game set and match
STSeltz [10:06 P.M.]: #2: I dont' particularily care about how religous a wrestler is or isn't
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:07 P.M.]: yep your mindset reminds me of the european population's indifference to Hitler and his nazi machine
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:07 P.M.]: oh man my bad that was too extreme, it sucks to be thrown into a drone generalization, kind of like the majority of americans who voted for bush
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:09 P.M.]: hah number 2
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:09 P.M.]: you should really reread that once you get over yourself
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:09 P.M.]: not giving a shit about what religion a wrestler belongs to is fine
STSeltz [10:09 P.M.]: I just don't see how being religious, other wrestler's mentioning it automatically means that religion is being used to get power backstage
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:10 P.M.]: but you shrug it off like it has no barring influence over how that wrestler works
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:10 P.M.]: which is completely wrong
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:10 P.M.]: but whatever the hell you want to think man
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:10 P.M.]: good to see the Sting comparison is disregarded again
STSeltz [10:10 P.M.]: Fuck man, I'm sure it does, but the way you talk makes it sound like HBK tells Vinne mac to pray to god or he'll kick him in the face
STSeltz [10:10 P.M.]: O_o
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:10 P.M.]: reminds me of how much the Senate disregarded reading the patriot act before passing it
STSeltz [10:10 P.M.]: You speak like HBK controls backstage with religious propaganda or something
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:11 P.M.]: I speak like HBK influences his politics with his religion
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:11 P.M.]: if he controlled backstage hed be neck and neck with triple h
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:11 P.M.]: which clearly isnt the case
STSeltz [10:11 P.M.]: and you've yet to cite something that directly suggeset that
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:11 P.M.]: I did
STSeltz [10:11 P.M.]: you've given me quotes which state that he's religious
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:11 P.M.]: you just refuse to read it
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:11 P.M.]: because your perfect hero has flaws
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:12 P.M.]: Once you start pasting more than mindless babble and I CANT HEAR YOU bullshit then we may be able to progress
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:12 P.M.]: I dont care to paste clips, IMs, paragraphs more than once, since Ive had to do it multiple times here, and then have it disregarded each time and then asked for moments later quite it's obvious this is going nowhere
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: I better hole up about Hogan
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: I know that hes a dick
STSeltz [10:13 P.M.]: What mindless babble and I CAN'T HEAR YOU bullshit?
STSeltz [10:13 P.M.]: I'm trying to understand your conclusions
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: and he puts himself over in interviews and puts other wrestlers down for showcasing as future legends
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: but since he's hulk hogan
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: and Im a hulkamaniac
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: that obviously never happens
STSeltz [10:13 P.M.]: but I just can't, because they seem baseless and grasping at straws to me
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: of course, because you're a selective reader
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:13 P.M.]: its fine
STSeltz [10:13 P.M.]: unless you show me a quote of a wrestler which actually talks about HBK's politicking and his religiousness inthe same sentence, I just dont' see any connections
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:14 P.M.]: Im done talking about HBK's religion, because even if Jesus arose on Earth again and personally came to your house to explain it to you you'd refuse to believe it
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:14 P.M.]: it's ok, you can come out of your corner
WhatAboutRaven2 [10:14 P.M.]: I told you I'm done listening to your I CANT HEAR YOU bullshit

This is like the 5th time he's said this shit to me, and I have NO CLUE where the fuck he's getting these conclusions from. Does someone speak Raven? :|

Is there something I'm missing here? O_o
 
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