Official US/JP PLAYSTATION 3 Launch Thread

Diablos said:
Wow. PS3 eBay prices are falllllling. 20GB ones are going for like an average of $700 it seems.

Preorders are still filled everywhere though... I'm sure a lot of stores had PS3's this week and especially today because of Black Friday.

It will be interesting to see if there's a spike in a short while like I believe there was with 360, or if Sony really will screw all eBay sellers and really ship out those extra units in the following weeks.

I just looked, it seems to be a little higher than that. I saw a 60 gb for 1200, so it seems like the price drop wouldn't be that severe for the 20 gb.

But good, I hope Sony gets a ton of units out there and screws 'em all.
 
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Not looking too good for 20GB sellers at ALL.

There was one at $735.00 that just ended; the reserve had not been met.
 
Might also mean 'Sony am F****d'

I think that 360 prices on e-bay were still higher than this at the same point a year ago. Not sure though... but the falling prices are indicative of demand being satisfied.
 
Sean*O said:
Might also mean 'Sony am F****d'

I think that 360 prices on e-bay were still higher than this at the same point a year ago. Not sure though... but the falling prices are indicative of demand being satisfied.


Oh yeah sure... you could spin that as you want though! :)
 
Of course, I don't recall the total number of listed 360s at that time vs the total number of PS3 at this point.

Still, PS3 is not staying red hot like some have predicted.. and it's got to chap the a$$ of people who dumped $1,500-$2,000 into one just a week ago.
 
Sean*O said:
Still, PS3 is not staying red hot like some have predicted..


We'll see another spike around christmas.


Personally, I don't think that many people want to spend over $1000 on it and are wating.
 
Sean*O said:
Might also mean 'Sony am F****d'
Nah, dude. Preorders (many which have yet to be filled) would be canceled, and stores would actually have more than a couple units on hand consistently if this was the case. Now, it is possible that this week (and especially today) really hurt eBay. Sony knows this is an important time to sell, and wanted to have just enough units available to spark enough consumer interest to make crazy buyers stop refreshing eBay for a few days.

But on the other hand, scalpers may permanently be ****ed. People are getting smart and realizing that $500 to $600 is very expensive to begin with, and would rather wait until they pick one up at a store or buy it from an online retailer at regular price.

But common sense would tell me that if stores continue to sell out of PS3's, then the closer you get to Christmas with little to no PS3 units on hand, the more money you make. I'm almost entirely sure that I saw Xbox 360's really spike in December because everyone ran out of them again and people flocked to eBay.
 
Diablos said:
Wow. I now see a 60 gig PS3 selling for what appears to be a near final price of ~$890. Geez!

Honeymoon is over! I see a Wii going in a few seconds for 320 dollars.

Scalpers am cry.
 
Kittonwy said:
Has anybody downloaded a full downloadable game or are you guys just playing either Resistance, RR7 and the Motorstorm? ~_~

I bought blast factor. Nothing special really, but some reasonably neat design elements and for $8 I can't complain.
 
I've downloaded Blast Factor, full game...that's about the only full game available right now.

Decent enough arena shooter. I think with this kind of shooter, I prefer the endless waves of enemies approach (like Geo Wars) rather than breaking the action into distinct levels like this one, Mutant Storm and others do.

Speaking of, I did download the Cash Carnage Chaos game demo (or whatever it's currently called) too. Looks to clone the formula that SmashTV brought to this genre to a T.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Honeymoon is over! I see a Wii going in a few seconds for 320 dollars.

Scalpers am cry.

sad thing is, as the clock winds down to about a week before Christmas... prices will likely double/triple maybe, even quadruple. :(
 
I prefer the semi-randomness of Geometry Wars, but Blast Factor is still a pretty cool game for the price. Supposedly they will be adding a 2-player mode and more specifmens in the future.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Honeymoon is over! I see a Wii going in a few seconds for 320 dollars.

Scalpers am cry.
Ummm, scalpers am cry?
These are probably from the 2nd batch and these people probably just strolled into a store...picked up a PS3 and made at least $150. I dont know about you...but I'm still willing to do that.
 
Diablos said:
Not looking too good for 20GB sellers at ALL.

There was one at $735.00 that just ended; the reserve had not been met.


Awesome. Now... hopefully I can snag one before Christmas. Since I'm sure they will grow scarce around that time again.
 
Honeymoon is over! I see a Wii going in a few seconds for 320 dollars.
Wii prices have gone up though. More than a few ended up below retail a couple days ago. I saw some bundles which must've lost $100. Now they're all making some profit. But there was 35k consoles up then and less than 10k now.

PS3 prices are pretty good (remember the average premium is ~250-300 for a core and ~300-500 for the other), easily bests the 360 a week after launch and slaughters the Wii premium, but the volume is just consistently too high for much else. You can't maintain $1500/avg when you always have 5-10 auctions ending per minute.

When the supply drops like the Wii did, prices will climb sharply. I'm pretty surprised at the retention right now since I predicted both would be selling below retail pretty quickly.
 
anyone having problems with the dolby digital 5.1 optical audio setting? when i set my audio output to dd 5.1, none of the games have audio. but if i leave it at dts 5.1 or keep it at linear pcm it works fine. bah, this sucks if i can't play in dd 5.1. anyone have a workaround?
 
Might not be the proper place to ask this, but does anyone know where I can get an animated Gif of the PS3's XMB? The ribbon flowing slowly across the screen is pretty cool, if someone knows where I can get it I'd appreciate it,

Thanks
 
I'm SO annoyed. I've been trying for the past hour to convert some videos on my computer to play on my PS3 and I keep getting the damn "Unsupported Format" error over and over.

I can't use PS3Video9 or whatever it's called because I'm on a Mac--can anyone help me out? I tried messing around with VisualHub and it produces fantastic MP4 files that play on my Mac, but give me the "Unsupported" error on the PS3. WTF?!?!
 
Question for anyone using a Bluetooth headset with their PS3...

I have a pair of Bluetooth headphones (that also have a mic, so it can be used as a headset)...I can pair it successfully with the PS3, but after a reboot (or if I power cycle the headphones) the PS3 doesn't seem to find them again automatically without going through the entire setup procedure again. This is going to get annoying quickly (having to re-pair your headset in the XMB every boot, before you start your game up) - is this "working as intended" or does the PS3 pick up your BT headset automatically when you power cycle either the machine or the headset?

If it's working for you, what model headset are you using? :)
 
whatdidyousay said:
I tried messing around with VisualHub and it produces fantastic MP4 files that play on my Mac, but give me the "Unsupported" error on the PS3. WTF?!?!

Perhaps you're using the wrong codec or profile? If you're using MPEG-4 it only supports Simple Profile, not Advanced Simple Profile. I don't know if there are bitrate restrictions too but the PSP required a bitrate equal to or less than 768kbps.
 
Gamedude said:
I'm not really up to date in it anymore but are there already nice vids of the backwards compatibility of the PS3? (I'm eager to see a MGS3/2, Shadow of the Colossus comparison)

so what is known about the BC, does it improve a lot? Can you play games in HD? (720p?)

Well, I do have this screenshot comparison...

As you can see, running PS2 games through HDMI ruins the image quality. If you switch out the cable and use component or lower, it's fine, but in HDMI, the system attempts to upscale and it looks awful in most cases (with a few exceptions). These shots are taken from very near the TV.

PS3 via HDMI

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PS2 via component

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PS3 text

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PS2 text

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Walked into an EB Games tonight just in time to hear the sales clerk telling a customer that the PS3 could only play Blu-ray discs, not standard DVDs. Of course, I immediately corrected him. Where do these guys get their information? Sheesh.
 
Superbone said:
Walked into an EB Games tonight just in time to hear the sales clerk telling a customer that the PS3 could only play Blu-ray discs, not standard DVDs. Of course, I immediately corrected him. Where do these guys get their information? Sheesh.

he might be xbox or nin10do boi.

trying to explain since most people have DVD, ur ps3 wont wont play it. only BR disks. get Wii or 360 :P

kidding aside, he should read the box of the ps3.

another important note to EB guys. dont hire stupid people
 
Question for anyone using a Bluetooth headset with their PS3...

Using a Plantronics Pulsar 590a. I do not have to re-pair it with the PS3 even after shutting down either or both the console and the headset. To reconnect the them back, I just turn the Pulsar on and push the "Call" button and they'll automatically sync up.

Now, if I were to turn the PS3 off and connect the Pulsar with the PC as a Bluetooth headset(for chatting on Skype whatever), then I'll need to re-pair it with the PS3 again as the "Call" button will now automatically connect it with the PC instead. Anyway, the Pulsar is a dual profile Bluetooth device. It can be connected to the PC either as headphone or headset. But each of the profile can only be tied to a single device so if I were to pair it as a headset to the PC, I'll need to re-pair with the PS3 if I want to use it there.

So I guess if you're using your headset with other devices then you'll need to re-pair it with the PS3 each time (I suppose if the BT stack used by the PS3 is more aggresive, we might not need to re-pair each time just need to attempt to connect them multiple of times...). Of course, the problem could also be the headset itself. I had a cheap-arse Billionton (rebadged by Buffalo) headset that would not remember with which device it was paired with. Needed to re-pair it with the PC each and every time I had to use it.

.k
 
dark10x said:
As you can see, running PS2 games through HDMI ruins the image quality. If you switch out the cable and use component or lower, it's fine, but in HDMI, the system attempts to upscale and it looks awful in most cases (with a few exceptions).

Hmm, actually non-prog scan enabled PS2 games looks like that on the Dell 2405FPW. I lay the blame on the crappy scaler used in the Dell. Comparing similar games using the PS3, they look slightly better than what the PS2 was outputting but that is like saying AIDS is better than Ebola or something...

.k
 
dark10x said:
Well, I do have this screenshot comparison...

As you can see, running PS2 games through HDMI ruins the image quality. If you switch out the cable and use component or lower, it's fine, but in HDMI, the system attempts to upscale and it looks awful in most cases (with a few exceptions). These shots are taken from very near the TV.

it seems that the analog connection (even if good like component) tend to add a little blur that helps hiding the jaggies, where of course the digital connection don't

just like composite vs rgb/component... the composite blurry image usually hide a lot of flaws

:)
 
Manp said:
it seems that the analog connection (even if good like component) tend to add a little blur that helps hiding the jaggies, where of course the digital connection don't

just like composite vs rgb/component... the composite blurry image usually hide a lot of flaws

:)
No, that's not it. Using my TV scaler, the games take on a very sharp and clean appearance. They are not blurry at all. The pixels seem very even and smooth (almost as if it were being displayed a native resolution). Through the PS3, everything looks ugly and upscaled.

Basically, it's the TV scaler versus the PS3 scaler and the PS3 scaler does an awful job. I suppose it would vary from TV to TV, though (TVs with a poor scaler will produce bad results regardless).
 
dark10x said:
No, that's not it. Using my TV scaler, the games take on a very sharp and clean appearance. They are not blurry at all. The pixels seem very even and smooth (almost as if it were being displayed a native resolution). Through the PS3, everything looks ugly and upscaled.

oh, ok. the second image in HDMI is awful though... i see what seems to be ghosting all around the letters, something that i will not expect from a digital connection

there's definitely something wrong somewhere

:)
 
Manp said:
oh, ok. the second image in HDMI is awful though... i see what seems to be ghosting all around the letters, something that i will not expect from a digital connection

there's definitely something wrong somewhere

:)
Thankfully, not every game exhibits those problems. MGS2 just happens to be one of the worst looking examples. The scaler just can't deal with it. Ridge Racer V is another travesty (there is literal flicker introduced). Some other 30 fps, full frame buffer games look perfectly fine, however, and everything looks fine if you plug in component cables (as it uses the original display mode). PSX games, though, look perfect OK.

I thought that the PS3 doesn't scale PS2 games at all?
The system will not output 480i through HDMI, however, so it DOES upscale everything to 480p. It just doesn't do a good job of it.
 
I like the fact thats its been a week and apart from rare occassions (sorry BlimBlim) there are next to no hardware failures (touch wood), can't wait till March
 
dark10x said:
The system will not output 480i through HDMI, however, so it DOES upscale everything to 480p. It just doesn't do a good job of it.

i wasn't thinking about that... MGS2 is a 480i game

well, hopefully is something that can be fixed with a firmware upgrade
it seems they have a lot of work to do over scaling both for PS2 and 3 games

:)
 
Darko said:
um is there anyway to view bluray movies at 720p.. i just went and got a hdcp compatible monitor specifically for ps3 and games now work but movies i get "out of range" error

As far as I know, right now PS3 will only output 1080p via HDMI (or component as well?) for BR movies. Hopefully this will be fixed thorugh firmware upgrade.
 
Oni Jazar said:
So do the component cables scale or is it just HDMI?

Seems like only the HDMI since with the component cables the IQ of the game stays in tact (as seen in dark's image examples).
 
Dark's pictures via HDMI are pretty much what I'm seeing on my TV through HDMI as well. PS2 games are sharper, but extra jaggy. I don't have a component cable to try (least I don't think I do). I was planning on finishing DQ8, MegaTen: DDS/Nocturne, and FFXII on the PS3 too... I haven't tried any PS1 games yet. I think I'll throw in FF7 for shits and giggles.
 
AnimeTheme said:
As far as I know, right now PS3 will only output 1080p via HDMI (or component as well?) for BR movies. Hopefully this will be fixed thorugh firmware upgrade.
It won't be. It's not a mistake on their part. Next generation movie formats have HDCP to deal with and will only output in 1080p over HDMI while playing Blu-ray movies. That's just part of the standard.
 
dark10x said:
It won't be. It's not a mistake on their part. Next generation movie formats have HDCP to deal with and will only output in 1080p over HDMI while playing Blu-ray movies. That's just part of the standard.


original quote was about lack of 720p output though. I'd expect Sony to address that with a firmware update. But no 1080p over component.
 
mrklaw said:
original quote was about lack of 720p output though. I'd expect Sony to address that with a firmware update. But no 1080p over component.
Hopefully, if they add 720p movie playback, they don't remove 1080i playback from those using the XMB in 720p mode. My TV handles 1080i so very well (and at proper 24 fps). It looks really good and I'd rather not switch.
 
dark10x said:
Well, I do have this screenshot comparison...

As you can see, running PS2 games through HDMI ruins the image quality. If you switch out the cable and use component or lower, it's fine, but in HDMI, the system attempts to upscale and it looks awful in most cases (with a few exceptions). These shots are taken from very near the TV.

PS3 via HDMI

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PS2 via component

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PS3 text

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PS2 text

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Well I guess that's why you would also leave an AV Multi Out cable going to the display so you can switch to that for PSX and PS2 games.
 
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