Patrick Klepek
furiously molesting tim burton
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Official WWDC 2005 Apple Keynote thread - it's on!
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What do you expect it's the "Worldwide Developer Conference 2005"God's Hand said:
10:51am PDT - Unfortunately her speech seems to have been written by a junior flack at Waggener Edstrom or Edelman. Waiting for her to get to a noun Here we go: Universal binary versions of Office coming, as we just saw.
10:53am PDT - Bruce Chizen, CEO of Adobe, comes on, jokes that his mom thinks he works for Apple.
God's Hand
Banned
Karmazin has been talking with Jobs off and on a lot, but there is no deal. And there won't be for quite some time.
ImNotLikeThem
Member
Not officially, probably not. But that would certainly make things like running OSX in a windows "emulator" to work much better if it was compiled for x86 chips.ckohler said:
Shogmaster
Member
SteveMeister said:
:lol :lol How quickly you Mac guys change your tune. Only a few months ago, it was all about how G5 0wNZZ0RZ PCs, and how G5 laptops are gonna rule! :lol :lol
God's Hand
Banned
If there actually is any brainpower at work at Apple, I can see them starting off with keeping OSX on their platform till everyone gets caught up with converting their software. Maybe down the road they will release OSX on PC.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
Shogmaster said:
Not really -- Jobs promised 3GHz G5s by LAST summer, and that didn't happen. And it has become increasingly clear that the G5 won't be showing up in any laptop any time soon.
This isn't a sudden shift in perception -- it's been building for a long time. And the laptop issue has been a HUGE problem.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
okay. so OSX will still only work on apple hardware. but does this mean that you will be able to install windows on the new intel macs.. for dual booting?
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
quadriplegicjon said:
I doubt it, but on the other hand, VirtualPC should run REAL well
Shogmaster
Member
I just wish I've archived all the old Photoshop benchmark comparasins against Intel procs at Apple's site. :lol :lol :lol
shantyman said:
Don't mind him. He's on crack.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
shantyman said:
if the architecture is the same. how would they be able to stop it?
10:56am PDT - Paul Otellini, President & CEO of Intel, is on. I suspect theres a whole bunch of you who never thought youd see that [Intel] logo on this stage. I was one of them.
10:58am PDT - Otellini is telling a timeline story that goes back to founding of Intel in 1968, founding of Apple in 1976. Photo of Jobs and Robert Noyce together. As Markoff said to me this morning, people love to see photos of execs with long hair. Otellini says he asked Jobs, Is that the last time you wore a tie? Steves answer: No, its the last time I wore a moustache. 1996: They set fire to our bunny person!
10:59am PDT - Runs old TV ad: Apple Computer would like to apologize for toasting the Pentium in public. Otellini: Now, we didnt have a grudge about that
11:00am PDT - Heres the talking point youll be hearing over and over: Intel chips run cooler than the PowerPC. More boilerplate about combining our strengths, two legendary companies, relentless advancement (advancement?) of Moores Law, etc .
11:01am PDT - More boilerplate: Its not the end of the story, its just the beginning! He was funny about the bunny, though.
10:58am PDT - Otellini is telling a timeline story that goes back to founding of Intel in 1968, founding of Apple in 1976. Photo of Jobs and Robert Noyce together. As Markoff said to me this morning, people love to see photos of execs with long hair. Otellini says he asked Jobs, Is that the last time you wore a tie? Steves answer: No, its the last time I wore a moustache. 1996: They set fire to our bunny person!
10:59am PDT - Runs old TV ad: Apple Computer would like to apologize for toasting the Pentium in public. Otellini: Now, we didnt have a grudge about that
11:00am PDT - Heres the talking point youll be hearing over and over: Intel chips run cooler than the PowerPC. More boilerplate about combining our strengths, two legendary companies, relentless advancement (advancement?) of Moores Law, etc .
11:01am PDT - More boilerplate: Its not the end of the story, its just the beginning! He was funny about the bunny, though.
VictimOfGrief
Banned
Windows 6/6/2005
It was nice knowing you. :lol
It was nice knowing you. :lol
Shogmaster
Member
VictimOfGrief said:
You share the same dunce hat with fel_z or something? :lol :lol
No new hardware announced unfortunately. Next OS X release is called Leopard. Haters, on my mark- flame
I would assume there will be hardwares stops to prevent installation of Windows on the Apple P4s. Hackers will certainly get around that, but why would you install Windows on that? It defeats the purpose of Apple's closed hardware/software paradigm, and the hardware won't be any better than any other PC for Windows.
I would assume there will be hardwares stops to prevent installation of Windows on the Apple P4s. Hackers will certainly get around that, but why would you install Windows on that? It defeats the purpose of Apple's closed hardware/software paradigm, and the hardware won't be any better than any other PC for Windows.
11:04am PDT - Steve is back on now, restating the theme of this as Apples 3rd big transition. Its not gonna happen overnight. Were making AWESOME machines right now (Frequent comment in the press line: Will anyone buy one in the next year?) When we meet again here next year, we will have products with Intel processors entering the market. Next year hell show Leopard. One non-boilerplate truth: The soul of a Mac is its operating system. Plus the slick industrial design, of course.
11:05am PDT - Thats it, shows over!
11:05am PDT - Thats it, shows over!
Shogmaster
Member
f_elz said:
No, but you were going on about G5 Intel proc or something? :lol
VictimOfGrief
Banned
Here's the thing I can't wait to do.
1.) Actually buy the software for the OS I run. :lol
2.) Dual Boot between OSX and Longhorn (by that time)
3.) Develop and photoshop in OSX , games in Longhorn.
Windows finally is going to see if it can beat Apple in a fair market.
1.) Actually buy the software for the OS I run. :lol
2.) Dual Boot between OSX and Longhorn (by that time)
3.) Develop and photoshop in OSX , games in Longhorn.
Windows finally is going to see if it can beat Apple in a fair market.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
shantyman said:
Ditto. I know I paid a premium for the cpu power my laptop has. It was worth it to never have to deal with the registry again!
The question remains... what will be the magic key that will keep Intel OSX only booting on an Intel Mac? DRM? Perhaps Intel will build Apple custom mobos and chipsets that Intel OSX can only run on. Yet, even if hackers figure out how to get "Leopard" running on a PC clone, they'll likely run into device driver problems.
Shogmaster
Member
AB 101 said:
Now it really jabs, don't it? :lol
Dude, sit and take deep breaths. It'll all be O-Tay!
VictimOfGrief said:
Dude, bring your ADD under control, smell the fresh brewed coffee, and read what was actually said. OSX is only for Apple built Intel boxes. Apple's still pussin' out and making proprietary boxes only. They can't give up the edge in stability that tightly controlled hardware profiles gives you.
From CNET.COM:
"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. 'That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that.'"
"However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. 'We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac.'"
"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. 'That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that.'"
"However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. 'We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac.'"
Particle Physicist
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ckohler said:
not bad. my hopes of a dual booting osx and longhorn machine is still alive.
fse
Member
AB 101 said:Well, at least the Mac OS X wanabees still can't run OS X unless they buy Apple hardware.
Hey Shog, when's Longhorn coming out again? :lol
Just that makes it a good day.
Aslong as OS X is mac hardware only, its ok. MacMini will use intel in a year I guess, and it will still be cheap.