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Officially Approved Competitive Fighting Game Thread

Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
PLEASE CHECK THE OP FOR UPCOMING EVENTS AND LIVE STREAMS!

There are a ton of streams this weekend! Check em out! Will add to the OP soon!

LIVE STREAMS FOR THE WEEKEND OF APRIL 3
Street Fighter IV

April 3, 1pm START
Nagoya Street Battle
Stream: http://ja.justin.tv/nsb_sf4
1pm - 3pm: Dictator vs. Blanka only tournament
4pm - 8pm: 5 on 5 main tournament, teams split up by region (Tokyo, Osaka, etc.)

April 4, 12pm START
Street Fighter 4 National 3 on 3 Team Tournament
Don't have a Nico Nico account? Check this thread for info on how to register: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205524
Stream: http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv14213873

MAJOR EVENT SCHEDULE
Street Fighter 4 National 3 on 3 Team Tournament
When: April 4, 2010
Where: Belle Salle Hall Akihabara, Japan
Info: This is Capcom's official tournament in Japan, for the second year running. Unlike last year's 1 on 1 tournament, this is a 3 on 3 team tournament featuring the very best in the country, and arguably the very best in the world. No word on whether or not it will be streamed, but we'll post info if it is. The event will also have a playable version of Super Street Fighter IV, plus a talk show with the voice actors of the game, including the very delicious Eri Kitamura (Juri's Japanese voice actress)

Devastation 2010 by jam86
When: June 18-20 2010
Where: Phoenix, AZ Phoenix Convention Center
Website: http://www.devastationevent.com/ (Register Online, Book that hotel!!)
Games: SSFIV, Tekken 6, BlazBlue, King of Fighters XII, Soul Calibur IV, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, Tekken Tag Tournament, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, and wait for it ...
Killer Instinct
yes really it's not a joke... Modern Warfare 2, Halo 3, Quake Live, Madden 2010, Guitar Hero 5, DJ Hero,
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Info: Last year it was the pre-Evo event, this year we're going big. Online registration has been up for awhile, event teamed up with Hyatt Regency Phoenix hotel ($79 per night, double occupancy).

Evolution 2010 (http://www.evo2k.com)
When: July 9 - 11, 2010
Where: Caesar's Palace, Las Vegas
Games: Super Street Fighter IV, Tekken 6, Tatsunoko VS. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars, Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Melty Blood: Actress Again

Super VS Battle 20-X (http://www.supervsbattle.com/svb20x/)
When: August 20 - 22, 2010
Where: Byron Hall, Harrow, London UK
Games:Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Soul Calibur 4, BlazBlue, Tekken 6 BR, King of Fighters XII , Super Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike

Super Battle Opera (http://www.tougeki.com)
When: September 2010 TBA
Where: TBA
Games: Virtua Fighter 5R, Tekken 6 BR, Street Fighter IV, Sengoku Basara X, Arcana Heart 3, King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match, Blazblue Continuum Shift, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, Super Street Fighter II Turbo

INTRODUCTION
The last thread on esports got locked due to being too all encompassing, so this thread is ONLY for fighting games, because delving into fighters, RTS, FPS, Battleship and Connect Four is a bit much for one thread to contain.

This thread is for the discussion of competitive fighting games, for those who play them competitively or for those who love to watch them as a spectator. We'll update this thread with live events and news when it becomes available. I'm also working on a schedule for the major events so that people know what's coming up this year.


Current Games
Street Fighter 4
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Best Strategy Resource
http://www.shoryuken.com

Best Video Resources:
http://www.youtube.com/user/godsgarden1
http://www.youtube.com/user/GAMEacho
http://www.youtube.com/user/iplaywinner
http://www.youtube.com/user/levelupseries
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/godsgarden

Out of all the Capcom fighters, SF4 is currently the one that gets the most play, being the most recent game and having balance that's a bit better than previous efforts. There are TONS of live streaming events out there on UStream and JustinTV, so check this thread for updates regularly if you want to catch a stream. With Super Street Fighter 4 just a month away, expect this game to retain its hold at the top of the fighting game world.

Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike
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Best Strategy Resource
http://www.shoryuken.com

Best Video Resource
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheShend

Personally, I don't like this game a whole lot compared to SF4, but the characters I do play I love! I'm primarily a Hugo player, and I feel he's the best bigman in fighting games. Having said that, despite being over a decade old, and despite having questionable balance, people are still playing this game because it's fast, fun and looks fucking gorgeous. Japanese players have been running ranbats forever and the game is still going strong!

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo / HD Remix
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Best Strategy Resource
http://www.shoryuken.com
http://curryallergy.blogspot.com/

Best Video Resources
http://www.youtube.com/user/supersf2turbo
http://ja.justin.tv/kasugai50

Over 20 years and still going strong! The release of HD Remix really helped boost the game's popularity in the west, although Japan is still playing the original game because HD Remix isn't officially available in the country. Out of all the Street Fighter games, Super Turbo is the one that has lasted the longest, and is the most revered. Any serious SF player should play this game to truly understand the series.

Virtua Fighter 5R
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Alright, I'm only putting this game on the list because it's the game that I play competitively. I realize it's not a popular game because it's not available outside of Japan, but you can still play the previous version on 360 online. Hopefully Sega gets their shit together and releases the Final Showdown upgrade on console.

No matter who you ask though, no one will argue that when it comes to competitive fighting games, Virtua Fighter is the one game that will be near the top of everyone's list as a viable tournament game. It doesn't have the success of Tekken or Street Fighter, but Virtua Fighter is the game that has set the standard for a long time, and it's also the series that many other fighting games look at when they have to come up with new features. Tekken, we're looking at you!

Best Strategy Resource:
http://www.virtuafighter.com
http://www.vfdojo.net (Japanese only)

Best Video Resource
http://www.youtube.com/user/ogikage

Tekken 6 BR (By AAK)
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Originally released in the arcades winter 2007 followed by a patch along with 2 extra characters in 2008, Tekken 6 BR is the latest offering from Namco's premier 3D fighting game franchise. The game's popularity is dominant in Asia looking at the arcade scene alone. Since its debut Tekken has consistently topped Arcadia Rankings until today. Tekken 6 BR's most significant achievement is being one of the most balanced 3D fighters ever released with nearly every one of the 39 member cast having an equal chance of winning tournaments with the right dedication.

Best Strategy Resources:
http://www.sdtekken.com/
http://www.iamtekken.com/
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com

Here are the best video resources for Tekken:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TekkenGosu
http://www.youtube.com/user/LevelUpYourGame
http://www.youtube.com/user/HongKongTekken
http://www.youtube.com/user/geesendou <---- Also includes BB, KOFUM, Meltly Blood, among others
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jon747
http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/&#37444;&#25331;[/QUOTE]
Electric Wind God Fist Tutorial

Guilty Gear XX Accent Core
Needs write-up!

Best Strategy Resource:
http://www.dustloop.com

Best Video Resource:


Blazblue Continuum Shift
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We need a write-up! Who wants to do it?

Best Strategy Resource:
http://www.dustloop.com

Best Video Resource:

King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match / KOF13 (if it's good) by Fersis
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The King Of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match (KOF02UM) is the remake of one of the best balanced entries on the legendary series (KOF02).
It brings characters not available on KOF02 like Igniz,Zero,Geese,Original Zero and more, new moves,new art ,new soundtrack and 'B or EX' versions for Kensou,Takuma,Robert and Geese.

After the 'disappointment' called KOFXII, KOF02UM became the standard competitive KOF.
SNKP will be showing KOF XIII for the first time on March 25th.

Best Strategy Resources:
Shoryuken.com
Cyberfanatix
Orochinagi.com
KOFUnion.com (Korean)

Best Video Resources:
Cyberfanatix (Lots of combo videos)
Youtube account of DarkGeese
Youtube account of DandyDLC

Soulcalibur IV (By Freshmaker)
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Despite being forever stuck in Tekken's shadow, SC IV did manage to sell over 2 million copies. The game still retains its distinctive features like air control, guard impacts, and adds in criticial finishes just in case ring outs weren't considered enough of a one hit kill option.

Best Strategy Resource:
www.8wayrun.com
(The forums tend to be more up to date than the wiki.)
www.caliburforum.com
(Largely inactive now, but good resource for older SC info.)

Best Video Resource:
http://www.8wayrun.com/video.php
http://www.youtube.com/user/GnouzCorp#p/u

Melty Blood
Needs writeup!

Best Strategy Resource:

Best Video Resource:

Gundam VS. series
Needs writeup!

Best Strategy Resource:

Best Video Resource:

Tatsunoko vs Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars by Threi
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The latest installment in the Capcom VS franchise, Ultimate All-Stars is an update to the Japan-only release, Cross Generation of Heroes. Released in America at the end of January, this update boasts new characters and improved character balance, something that has been praised as something sorely missing in previous VS games. Following the same development philosophy as Street Fighter 4, Tatsunoko vs Capcom has a system that is easy to pick up, but has enough depth for even the most intricate of players. The game has been described as "a mix of Marvel vs. Capcom 1 and Guilty Gear". It will be hosted by Evo this year, which will show how active the community is currently. It is, however, definitely gaining popularity.

Best Strategy Resource
http://www.shoryuken.com
http://www.iplaywinner.com

Best Video Resources:
trag: tragic video
Rockeits: Competitive Fighting Games
RoyalFlush: SoCal TvC, Tekken
XSilvenX: XSilvenX's Channel
yourmother: Rollisyourmother's TvC Channel
Taurus Oxford's TvC Playlist
http://www.youtube.com/user/psychochronic

Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Is Smash discussion allowed in here?
A: NO.

Q: Why?
A: This is a thread for competitive fighting games. Also, the mods said that Smash discussion would not be tolerated.

Q: But Smash is a...
A: No, it's not. Also, see Answer #1.

Q: What's the tournament standard for fighting games?
A: It usually varies between games, but 90% of the time you'll find that default settings apply, unless a glitch exists that can freeze the game. In rare cases a character will be banned for being unbalanced but that is very rare. Bracket format differs between countries. Japan likes to run single elimination with no character changes allowed while having double elimination on rare occassions, while the West likes to run double elimination with character changes allowed.

Q: Which tournament format is better for fighting games?
A: You can make arguments for both formats, there really isn't a BETTER format per se. Double elimination allows for counter-picking characters and can produce more consistent results, but single elimination forces players to understand matchups better and can produce more exciting results/upsets because of this.

Q: Are there any leagues that I can follow?
A: Yup, there's the MLG (Major League Gaming, www.mlgpro.com) and WCG (World Cyber Games, www.wcg.com), then there's Evo (Evolution, www.evo2k.com), and then there's the newly created Level Up Series (www.levelup-series.com).

Q: It all seems very serious
A: Well, you only get out of it what you put into it, but with any competitive game, if you're serious about it, you can find like-minded people who you can relate to and eventually create friendships with. On a personal note, some of my best friends are the ones I met through playing Soulcalibur 2 and Street Fighter.

Q: Does it take a lot of time to become a pro?
A: Yes, just like anything in life. It's wrong to say someone's a pro unless they're making a living off of it though. Japanese players are often thought of as pros, but most of them do not make money off of the game. In fact, tournament purse money based on entry fees is strictly prohibited in Japan due to gambling laws. However, if a sponsor is willing to put up the money for a tournament, that is legal. More often than not, players in Japan only play for small prizes like posters, toys, and uh... pride. The west works in the complete opposite way, with prize money going to the top 3 finishers at tournaments. The usual split for prize money is 70/20/10 although it varies depending on the tournament organizer.

Q: What are the hotspots for competitive fighting games?
A: You can usually find a good community in just about every major city if you're looking hard enough. Some areas are known for being better at certain games than others, with the top areas being NorCal, SoCal, Texas, and New York. You can find good players anywhere though.

Q: What's a Ranbat?
A: A series of tournaments over a given period of time where players accumulate points based on their placing in each tournament. at the end of the season, points are tallied up and the overall ranking is decided by who has the most points at the end of the seasons.

Q: How do I know which character is best for me?
A: Using SF4 as an example, take into account what your hands can do, and how fast you can react to attacks. If you're the type who has fast hands and execution is nothing to you, and you have fast reaction speed, a technically advanced character like Viper can be your best fit. If you're like me, someone with average execution and reactions, but prefers to fight up close, you may want to try a grappler character like Zangief. If you like mid/long-range fighting, you may want to try picking up a character like Dhalsim.
 

Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
haunts said:
competitive fighting game thread by the biggest scrub ive ever met in my life.

GOOD SHIT.


You're just mad because I won a tournament at GodsGarden and you didn't!:lol

vocab said:
No mention of GGPO. :(

GGPO is just the technology... but if you want to write up something, I'll include it in the OP!
 

Dresden

Member
Oh, Virtua Fighter. The local video store used to bring out a tv and a Saturn every afternoon on the sidewalk, and the owner would play with anyone that was passing by. I'd always get curbstomped by his Wolf.
 

Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
Threi said:
Speaking of TvC...where is it in the OP?

I forgot to include it, but I will! Needs a write up though because I'm not well-versed in the game. :lol
 
well the only game that I could have played competitively was Melee, but I guess we can't discuss that here, for whatever reason

so I will talk about the other game that I could have played if I practiced a lot more, which is ST.

I think it's the best SF game.

Also, nothing on Marvel or TvC in the OP? What's up with that?
 
arstal said:
needs a Melty mention- it's huge in some spots.

In NC Melty gets more players then SF4.

Please don't tell me you contribute to that >.<

On a random note, a Dallas player was on the team that won melty blood teams at final round. It was weird, because at all the tourneys, he was always in a corner playing melty blood by himself, never bothered introducing himself or even playing any of the games in the tournaments.
 

jman2050

Member
~Devil Trigger~ said:
Its still crazy that BlazBlue did not make it to EVO

and beaten by Actress Again

the BB community voluntarily stepped out of Evo because CT is old news and CS isn't on consoles yet.
 
FindMyFarms said:
Please don't tell me you contribute to that >.<

On a random note, a Dallas player was on the team that won melty blood teams at final round. It was weird, because at all the tourneys, he was always in a corner playing melty blood by himself, never bothered introducing himself or even playing any of the games in the tournaments.

Pedophile, you'll be an inmate soooon!

You love children so much, can't wait to touch; they say "you're much to old."

Chasing you away from playgrounds everyday, they're so unkind.

Don't let them make up your mind.

Pedophile, you'll be an inmate soooon!
 

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
Okay, so we're not allowed to discuss that certain fighting game series but can we discuss Soul Calibur? I don't see it in the OP.

If not, I guess none of the fighting games I play are "competitive." =\
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Pedophile, you'll be an inmate soooon!

You love children so much, can't wait to touch; they say "you're much to old."

Chasing you away from playgrounds everyday, they're so unkind.

Don't let them make up your mind.

Pedophile, you'll be an inmate soooon!

I <3 jailbait like u <3 cawk
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Oichi said:
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Is Smash discussion allowed in here?
A: NO.

Q: Why?
A: This is a thread for competitive fighting games. Also, the mods said that Smash discussion would not be tolerated.

Q: But Smash is a...
A: No, it's not. Also, see Answer #1.

Thread of the Year. All years.

Smashboards may cry

Dantrax said:
but can we discuss Soul Calibur?

Isn't SC2 still played in some circles? I don't think 3/4 count, but I think 2 does as a side-game.
 

arstal

Whine Whine FADC Troll
FindMyFarms said:
Please don't tell me you contribute to that >.<

On a random note, a Dallas player was on the team that won melty blood teams at final round. It was weird, because at all the tourneys, he was always in a corner playing melty blood by himself, never bothered introducing himself or even playing any of the games in the tournaments.

No. I don't like it, but it's huge here. NC is weird- one reason I don't do tournaments that much anymore.
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
arstal said:
needs a Melty mention- it's huge in some spots.

In NC Melty gets more players then SF4.
this is surprising to me, I remember Arturo Sabin saying he took a lil break from sf to play melty blood.



I can't get down with that moe shit
 

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
TheSeks said:
Thread of the Year. All years.

Smashboards may cry



Isn't SC2 still played in some circles? I don't think 3/4 count, but I think 2 does as a side-game.

Why don't 3 and 4 count? (I like 2 the best anyway... I'd just like to know the community-accepted reason.)
 

hteng

Banned
how is SC4 not a competitive game, it was at EVO 2009 and showed that even god tier characters can be beaten with enough determination and skill.

3 is understandable because it was broken due to Variable Cancel.
 
Is HDRemix actually played competitively? I thought that the game had some problems and people were sticking with ST?

I love me some HDRemix/ST. More than SF4, even.
 

arstal

Whine Whine FADC Troll
Imm0rt4l said:
this is surprising to me, I remember Arturo Sabin saying he took a lil break from sf to play melty blood.



I can't get down with that moe shit

Melty is a legitimately good game that does a lot of things right. I just don't like that style of game. It gets compared to A3 some. (I considered A3 a bastardization of the SF series, so no wonder I don't like it)

I could see Melty turning into Philly vs NC at some point.

I think the SNK scene would have done better here is there was a legit rival scene. Beating up Dark Geese doesn't do it for them.

HDR was the #2 game at Evo last year. It's not big here at all, but most places it is.

SC4- the reasons it gets shit on:

a) Banlists- no banlist was ever agreed on
b) It's a 3d game that appears too fanservicey
c) Star Wars stuff made the game look stupid
d) Hiilde made the game stupid flat-out

That said, I get salty as how SC never lives up to its great potential. SC4 could have been a great game, if they had cared about balanced (No G tier Mina for example)
 

Kimosabae

Banned
Good stuff. Could you add Crimson Blur's Melee section from his closed thread to this?

*edit*

Wait, are you serious regarding Smash??? You've got to be kidding me...

*edit 2*

Smash is game in which multiple player-controlled characters fight each other. If you're excluding it due to petty, petulant biases, your thread is rendered illegitimate. You've essentially aped an idea from Crimson Blur and I and perverted it. We were looking to create a forum to foster inclusiveness, and general awareness among people passionate about playing games competitively. Fuck this petty, divisive bullshit. If you're excluding one game based on groundless reasoning, this thread should be closed.
 

TreIII

Member
Oichi, is it okay to talk about Gundam vs. Gundam in here? We got NEXT that's still going strong, and EXTREME is getting ready to start its loke tests in a few months.

All it needs is hopefully a nice PS3 port of EXTREME in about a year from now, and maybe we could get a nice scene going... :D
 

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
arstal said:
SC4- the reasons it gets shit on:

a) Banlists- no banlist was ever agreed on
b) It's a 3d game that appears too fanservicey
c) Star Wars stuff made the game look stupid
d) Hiilde made the game stupid flat-out

That said, I get salty as how SC never lives up to its great potential. SC4 could have been a great game, if they had cared about balanced (No G tier Mina for example)

a) Well that's the community's fault, not the game's. Meh.
b) How so?
c) Kinda agree.
d) How so?
 
Bantard said:
*edit*

Wait, are you serious regarding Smash??? You've got to be kidding me...

*edit 2*

Smash is game in which multiple player-controlled characters fight each other. If you're excluding it due to petty, petulant biases, your thread is rendered illegitimate. You've essentially aped an idea from Crimson Blur and I and perverted it. We were looking to create a forum to foster inclusiveness, and general awareness among people passionate about playing games competitively. Fuck this petty, divisive bullshit. If you're excluding one game based on groundless reasoning, this thread should be closed.

Ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban

BAN SONG!

Ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban

BAN SONG!
 
Kimosabae said:
Smash is game in which multiple player-controlled characters fight each other. If you're excluding it due to petty, petulant biases, your thread is rendered illegitimate. You've essentially aped an idea from Crimson Blur and I and perverted it. We were looking to create a forum to foster inclusiveness, and general awareness among people passionate about playing games competitively. Fuck this petty, divisive bullshit. If you're excluding one game based on groundless reasoning, this thread should be closed.

I think the thread is meant for "traditional" fighting games, which are usually just referred to as fighting games.

If you're going to define fighting games as games where people fight, then pretty much anything could be included in that. Fight night, power stone, def jam, etc. etc. and obviously smash bros.

There's a specific type of fighting game implied by this thread, don't let semantics or inclusion offend you, melee is still a good game.
 

Red Scarlet

Member
None of the events Reno mentioned have Smash, and he said to leave Smash out of it. Do so. Don't turn this into a "is Smash a fighting game" debate thread. Lots of games have competitive communities, many which aren't mentioned in the OP. But Smash gets people riled up to argue about it instead of the topic at hand.
 

Freshmaker

I am Korean.
TheSeks said:
Isn't SC2 still played in some circles? I don't think 3/4 count, but I think 2 does as a side-game.
Argh. SC IV isn't dead. Go to www.8wayrun.com they have actively updated rankings, a WGC teams match is happening etc.

(Wonderbubble and Hilde are also banned in the US.)

Edit: Fixed URL finally
 

Icarus

Member
I would think MvC2 would be in the thread as well (doesn't it typically draw more players than SF3 at the Evo Finals?).
 

reetva

Banned
So, as someone looking to get into the world of competitive 2D fighters, is there a certain game to start on? Should I just pick up SSFIV when it comes out? I've always been big in to competitive gaming and I figure it's time to move into fighters. Thanks in advance. :D
 
reetva said:
So, as someone looking to get into the world of competitive 2D fighters, is there a certain game to start on? Should I just pick up SSFIV when it comes out? I've always been big in to competitive gaming and I figure it's time to move into fighters. Thanks in advance. :D

BlazBlue
SF2:HDR
 
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