Crankshaft
Member
Gonna start treating cops like bears in the wild. If I see one, going to curl up into a ball and hope they just hit me a few times and leave when they have lost interest.
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Ohio Officer Shoots Newspaper Photographer w/o Warning
- Thread starter Syriel
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BlackGoku03
Member
Reactions to the story has a lot of cop defenders justifying it as I thought they would. Always happens when these stories come out. They have to shift the blame and damn if it isn't contagious to dummies.
On GAF, yes.
What's your profession? I'm sure in retrospective, yours has bad apples in it too. But would you say all of them are terrible?
Jake shouldn't have a badge and gun. You're to know what you're shooting at and at least what's behind it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I would not defend the ones that are terrible and fight for them to keep their jobs. If I and every one else in this hypothetical profession did that, then yes, we would all be assholes.
Think about it, if every shitty McDonalds employee that messed up orders, came in late, spit in burgers, was rude to customers, ect...instead of being fired was just put on paid leave every time they messed up, was constantly defended by their peers/superiors, shuffled around from one McDonalds to another, would it surprise you if people were like "Man McDonalds' employees seem really shitty"?
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
Canon on tripod:
Cannon on tripod
Seems legit.
Cannon on tripod
Seems legit.
StarCreator
Member
You need to rehost those images rather than hotlinking them.
Being an american police officer pretty much means you're a bully, a thug and an asshole.
No you don't keep officers who shoot at people for setting up cameras jfc.
However it does mean if you are you will most likely get a paid vacation over it though.
Unfair.
However it does mean if you are you will most likely get a paid vacation over it though.
Westbahnhof
Banned
I know, but proper testing/training would prevent these people from joining.
That's my question, why is there barely any training? It seems weird for a country like the US. What's the justification for not implementing something to raise the average competence?
Vital Tundra
Member
Guys, he probably thought the mounted camera was a mounted LMG and feared for his life. Completely acceptable. Completely. And Im super glad he likes Jake despite getting shot, perfectly reasonable.
Fuck the police.
Fuck the police.
Taxes.
AtomskEater
Member
HE SHOT YOU. With no warning and for no reason. Please stop extending continued friendship and other olive branches to shitty police officers.
sturgboski
Member
Well that, the desire to hire people under an IQ threshold (forget the report but basically the departments were going out of their way to not hire high aptitude applicants). Oh and also barely slapping cops who do anything wrong on the wrist. Basically like when my dog was a puppy and peed on the bed and I yelled at her, through the sheets et al in the wash, and then arranged the pillows on the bed for her to sleep on, that sort of punishment.
PandaShake
Member
I don't like Jake
Robdraggoo
Member
Maybe I missed it, but what was the reason the officer provided for shooting him in the first place?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Arrowgigantic
Member
Small town. If he starts shit, he has to be prepared to leave or end up shot again.
There's more to the story... it seems it wasn't as simple as this guy was setting up a tripod, with a camera, to take pictures.
Now, that doesn't actually justify the shooting, but at least we're getting more info.
http://fox45now.com/news/local/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-new-carlisle
Now, that doesn't actually justify the shooting, but at least we're getting more info.
http://fox45now.com/news/local/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-new-carlisle
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Lemme tell you a story about "Hard" Dick Cheney...
Lord Fagan
Junior Member
Until they betray their brothers and speak out. It's why they call it the blue wall of silence.
n0razi
Member
Geezuz..guess that didn't work lol.
what didn't?
It all depends on the state and the statutes of that state. Training requirements vary from state to state, and that means use of force requirements vary from state to state.
In Kansas an officer might go through some very basic training at their respective agency before attending state mandated basic training for 12 weeks. After that they might have follow-up training with their agency (as it pertains to the area they serve) in addition to a required 40 hours of yearly continuing education training.
In my mind it is less about the actual training, and more about the officer remembering their training and their superiors reinforcing that training.
That's pretty much how it is here. Except it is 13 weeks in South Carolina. Keep in mind, that's an updated academy time. Mine was only 9 weeks back in 2000. We have to have legal and cdv updates yearly, as well as firearms re-qualification, driving re-qualification, as well as 40hrs continued education training. We also have mandatory hazmat, blood borne pathogen, respirator suit, active shooter, DUI, and RADAR cert every three years. We get the updates on those in between the mandatory re cert times. If you carry a tazer, capstun, or straight baton, those are yearly recerts as well. Our use of force training, deadly force training, is really in depth at the academy, and well after graduation.
The academy time I mentioned is for Basic Law. Class A certified officers. Highway Patrol has another 9 weeks after the basic law portion and state transport police also have another academy time frame.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
I'll bet 90% or more of civilian deaths by police officers are unwarranted in the US. But nothing is being done about it.
At my workplace if I were to pull a muscle in my back from improper lifting, I'd be educated on how to properly lift the next time. If I acted like a dummy and ran a fork lift into a wall I'd get fired.
But if I were a cop I could go so far as to strait up murder people, and get a paid vacation plus a pat on the back for doing so.
At my workplace if I were to pull a muscle in my back from improper lifting, I'd be educated on how to properly lift the next time. If I acted like a dummy and ran a fork lift into a wall I'd get fired.
But if I were a cop I could go so far as to strait up murder people, and get a paid vacation plus a pat on the back for doing so.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Him trying not to startle him lol..
Marvel
could never
Nicely done.
Ahhh lol. I gotcha. lol.
FortuneFaded
Member
Who would want an officer like that as their back up? No one sane would. He shouldn't have a badge and gun. I don't defend ALL cops mind you. But I'm not one just to jump on the FTP party boat just when police are even brought up on GAF.
If we judge all off of fewer, everyone in this country, and hell, planet would "be shit."
elrechazado
Banned
His fellow police and his union who will fight to ensure he gets the most minimal punishment possible, assuming they can't get him totally exonerated after using every tool at their disposal to do so.
old manatee
Banned
This story makes me wonder how many times an officer has yelled 'my bad' after shooting someone.
Do we know if the photographer shot first?
Mistake
Member
I remember that story where two cops wrestled a guy to the ground, obviously had him pinned, then one cop felt the need to shoot and shot the cop instead. oh, don't forget, it wasn't him that did it. It was the pinned guy with no gun
Angelus Errare
Banned
How does that work exactly? Since you know guns point down in holsters unless...he took the gun out of the holster and pointed it at dude...at that point how is it an accident? He meant to point it for the lulz but didn't mean to actually shoot?
The best you're going to get is a "there must be more to this story" and maybe a "I personally wouldn't have shot him." The bar for acceptable police conduct is almost as low as the bar for presidential conduct at this point.
Angelus Errare
Banned
There isn't a bar for police conduct. Police can rape dozens of women and STILL get a defense force/benefit of doubt.
OG Shaka Zulu
Member
This story is just bizarre. To top it off jake involved in the story is named Jake.