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[Typhares]

Hi all,

I've been doing Intermittent Fasting 16-8 version (fast for 16 hours and have an eating window of 8 hours) for quite a long time.
What that meant for me was basically skipping breakfast which has never been an issue as I don't remember the last time I got up feeling hungry.

Anyway last week I started reading about other fasting methods like the 5-2 or incorporating KETO into the fasting routine. KETO to me sounds absolutely impossible long term but the one that caught my attention was OMAD.
One meal a day is basically 23-1 instead of 16-8.
The principle is that fasting for 16 hours brings a whole set of benefits, extending that to 23 hours will obviously push those even further (burning more fat because insulin level can stay lower longer and autophagy for example).

This is not necessarily a calory deficit type of diet though, in one meal all the calories and nutrients for the day should be consumed. Of course a calory deficit will cause weight loss and I read somewhere that eventually people on OMAD just end up eating less naturally.
I have done it a couple of days since reading about it and hunger can come at some point but it eventually goes away and I have no negative effect so far.

Because I have been doing the 16-8 version it doesn't seem very difficult for me to do OMAD. I wouldn't recommend anyone jumping straight into that though.
I'm going to stick to it for at least 4-5 days a week as it wouldn't be practical to do every day for social reason mainly.
For reference purposes I'm 30 / 1.73m / 79kg / 21% body fat (according to a shitty bathroom scale).
I used to be a lighter when I was going to the gym (74kg/18% on the same scale) and at my lowest I was 66kg but that was without any muscle mass.
I also used to be way more overweight in the past (90kg no muscle) so I'm still doing alright and I don't think anybody would see me as fat right now but just for myself I always try to be more healthy.
I'm still exercising couple times a week but nothing as instense as I used to do. I'll see where this takes me.

Anyone else here following some kind of fasting? How is it going for you?

 

[JORMBO]

I've done this before. I would only eat once when I got home for work. After awhile I started feeling less hungry during the day.

I started running into problems where I would find myself eating during the day due to social situations. If I had a string of situations where I found myself eating during the day then when I tried to get back to the one meal a day thing I started feeling hungry during the day again for awhile. I found it very hard to keep a steady plan due to this so I stopped.

 

[LordOfChaos]

The principle is that fasting for 16 hours brings a whole set of benefits, extending that to 23 hours will obviously push those even further (burning more fat because insulin level can stay lower longer and autophagy for example).

Rhonda Patrick said the peak benefits were found with a 7 hour eating window (so 17:7), I do between 16 and 17 hours fwiw. Not that there may not be beneficial effects beyond there.

 

[Typhares]

Rhonda Patrick said the peak benefits were found with a 7 hour eating window (so 17:7), I do between 16 and 17 hours fwiw. Not that there may not be beneficial effects beyond there.
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From what I read insulin keeps dropping pretty steadily for at least 24 hours then the drop slows down.
But I have also seen people saying that OMAD is not suitable for women long term and IF is better for them (they can still do longer fast once in a while for the other benefits).

 

[llien]

So, are you saying people lose weight even if there is no calorie deficit?

 

[Typhares]

So, are you saying people lose weight even if there is no calorie deficit?

No I don't think so. From my understanding CICO still is the main factor in weight loss but fasting makes the body more efficient at burning fat because of insulin drop.
There is also an increase in growth hormone for potentially increased muscle mass with exercise.
If you eat more than your TDEE in your one meal you will just store it back as fat but that's just harder to do in one meal.

 

[rokkerkory]

What would be thw goal with OMAD?

 

[JimboJones]

I've done this before. I would only eat once when I got home for work. After awhile I started feeling less hungry during the day.

I started running into problems where I would find myself eating during the day due to social situations. If I had a string of situations where I found myself eating during the day then when I tried to get back to the one meal a day thing I started feeling hungry during the day again for awhile. I found it very hard to keep a steady plan due to this so I stopped.

Yeah this sounds similar to me, I was out of work for a while and decided to lose a bit of weight.
It was easy and I ate pretty big meals in the evening.
It was only when I got another job, I didn't really feel like explaining why I was skipping lunch or why I was only eating a banana or something. People turn into nosey cunts when it comes to other people's eating habits lol.

 

[llien]

No I don't think so. From my understanding CICO still is the main factor in weight loss but fasting makes the body more efficient at burning fat because of insulin drop.
There is also an increase in growth hormone for potentially increased muscle mass with exercise.
If you eat more than your TDEE in your one meal you will just store it back as fat but that's just harder to do in one meal.

I see.
Curiously, today I had a conversation about running a marathon.
A colleague of mine, who in his mid 50s runs about 50km a week (no more than 20 a day though) has a "sugar vs fat burning" theory. He claims he can feel when he enters "fat burning mode" and that all long distance runners have that, marathon runners in particular and that body can get used to that and utilize it in daily life.

 

[Typhares]

What would be thw goal with OMAD?

A couple of things:
-weight loss, this can of course be achieve following CICO but IF/OMAD can greatly help with that.
-Autophagy: also described as slowing down aging as damaged cells are recycled by the body.
-Various health benefits: low blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol.
-People also report various improvements of mental state and cognitive functions.

Basically the same benefits that have been documented about fasting but as a lifestyle.

I see.
Curiously, today I had a conversation about running a marathon.
A colleague of mine, who in his mid 50s runs about 50km a week (no more than 20 a day though) has a "sugar vs fat burning" theory. He claims he can feel when he enters "fat burning mode" and that all long distance runners have that, marathon runners in particular and that body can get used to that and utilize it in daily life.

I read about this somewhere so I think this is true. Burning fat mode is called ketosis and that happends when glucose is depleted so insulin goes down and the body turns to fat as food source. Another way to achieve that is the Keto diet since when consuming such low amount of carb the body never really has glucose to use and stay in ketosis mode.
Marathon runners run for so long that glucose is usually depleted during a run and ketosis kicks in. I read somewhere people using fasting to train the body to become more efficient at ketosis for that purpose. Basically in a normal 3 meals diet the body never has a chance to run out of glucose and the 'crash' that people feel if they don't have something carb based is because of that drop the body is not used to.

 

[xStoyax]

If you wanna know more about the benefits, I suggest looking into Dr. Jason Fung. Many diseases like Type 2 Diabetes can be cured implementing IF/Keto.

 

[GymWolf]

So i have a question, can i eat the fuck i want in this omad diet? because this seems like the only salvageable point of this thing over a traditional iper-proteic diet where you eat a lot of food 4 times or more a day (lean, healthy low caloric food of course)

I just need to eat 1 time a day in 1 hour window, but can i actually eat shit food like a big ass 4000 calories pizza? how do you even fill the protein quota with one meal for day unless you eat like 2 kg of meat? (if you are a big boy like me)

How is this diet sustainable for bodybuilders? how do i even train with a 20+ hours empty stomach? i train at 7:30 pm and end around 9:00 pm so the only meal would be the post-wo dinner.

I'm fascinated by how many people have success with this thing, it sound absolutely counter-intuitive, especially for weightlifters.

 

[teezzy]

So i have a question, can i eat the fuck i want in this omad diet? because this seems like the only salvageable point of this thing over a traditional iper-proteic diet where you eat a lot of food 4 times or more a day (lean, healthy low caloric food of course)

I just need to eat 1 time a day in 1 hour window, but can i actually eat shit food like a big ass 4000 calories pizza? how do you even fill the protein quota with one meal for day unless you eat like 2 kg of meat? (if you are a big boy like me)

How is this diet sustainable for bodybuilders? how do i even train with a 20+ hours empty stomach?

I'm fascinated by how many people have success with this thing, it sound absolutely counter-intuitive, especially for weightlifters.

From my experience, the theory behind it is that if you only eat once per day then there's no possible way you're gonna exceed your calorie limit in a single sitting

I also wasn't eating whole pizzas though

 

[GymWolf]

From my experience, the theory behind it is that if you only eat once per day then there's no possible way you're gonna exceed your calorie limit in a single sitting

I also wasn't eating whole pizzas though

What kinda of dry horse crap theory is this?

I can EASILY eat well beyond 5000 calories in a single meal and even if i train 5 days a week and do a physical job i can't fucking burn 3000+ calories every day to even reach maintainance deficit, let alone negative deficit...

Also, if i can eat what i want, how do i fill the protein quota? how do you even build muscles if you can just eat 5000 calories of fried chips?

 

[teezzy]

I don't think most omad dudes are tryna gain mass GymWolf

Most of us are just tryna loose our fatty boom batties

 

[GymWolf]

I don't think most omad dudes are tryna gain mass GymWolf

Most of us are just tryna loose our fatty boom batties

Nah, i saw plenty of fitness people doing omad or advicing for omad, countless really.

And even with that in mind, a fatso can easily eat a buckload of calories in one meal and still putting weight.

I know hormones, cortisol and all that shit is important, but caloric intake is like the heart, it never lies.

Yeah there has to be a set of rules on this thing that i'm unaware of.

 

[GymWolf]

Lol fuck me, you can really eat what you want...



So basically only people with a tiny stomach who can't eat more than 2000-3000 calories in one meal can have success with this thing, right?

You go down the rabbit hole of a meal with 5000+ calories and you are fucked unless you do like 2-3 hours of cardio everyday...

I kinda wanna try just for the absolute lols but i have a trip during august and i have to be on my best shape.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Lol fuck me, you can really eat what you want...



So basically only people with a tiny stomach who can't eat more than 2000-3000 calories in one meal can have success with this thing, right?

You go down the rabbit hole of a meal with 5000+ calories and you are fucked unless you do like 2-3 hours of cardio everyday...

I kinda wanna try just for the absolute lols but i have a trip during august and i have to be on my best shape.

I've been doing OMAD since 2015--just fell into it naturally. Didn't know it was a thing. I do not have a physical job but I run about 20-30 miles per week and have held a healthy BMI the whole time--save for one winter when I slid into "Overweight" category.

I probably eat around 2500-3000 calories in about a one hour period each night. And I almost always eat until I'm stuffed and don't calorie count. OMAD works for me because if I eat three times a day, I just end up overeating three times a day. So I cut it down to once. Of course, here and there, I'll eat more than once a day.

I also have no doubt that on several occasions, I have eaten >5,000 calories in one extended sitting. We're talking an entire Papa John's stuffed pizza and a desert meant for a family. Still don't seem to gain much weight from it.

 

[Quasicat]

I found a lot of success with OMAD during the school year going from 350lbs to 295lbs in about 6 months. I only did it because I’m really lazy and didn’t want to pack a lunch for me everyday. School ended and now I’m in a land of food feeding my family three meals a day. It’s hard to do OMAD so I just skip breakfast. I also stopped losing weight because of this. At work it’s easy since there is no food available but at home, it takes a lot more discipline than I have.

 

[AJUMP23]

I do fruits and vegetables for breakfast and dinner. and then a fella meal for dinner.


The ancient Persians were known for only eating once a day.

 

[GymWolf]

I've been doing OMAD since 2015--just fell into it naturally. Didn't know it was a thing. I do not have a physical job but I run about 20-30 miles per week and have held a healthy BMI the whole time--save for one winter when I slid into "Overweight" category.

I probably eat around 2500-3000 calories in about a one hour period each night. And I almost always eat until I'm stuffed and don't calorie count. OMAD works for me because if I eat three times a day, I just end up overeating three times a day. So I cut it down to once. Of course, here and there, I'll eat more than once a day.

I also have no doubt that on several occasions, I have eaten >5,000 calories in one extended sitting. We're talking an entire Papa John's stuffed pizza and a desert meant for a family. Still don't seem to gain much weight from it.

The thing is, i'm a big guy, 190 cm for 90-100 kg depends on the season, if you leave me on an empty stomach for 23 hours and with the job and training i do, you can bet your ass that i'm gonna eat an insane amount of calories in that one meal every single day, way way more than my caloric maintainance, let alone caloric deficit, especially if the diet only salvageble point is to eat what i want without counting calories...
There is no fucking way that i can burn that amount of caloric surplus even if hormones, cortisol etc. do their tricks, human body is not a magical thing.

And let's not even start on the proteic quota, good luck on building muscles with small amounts of shit quality proteins (because that is the whole point of eating what you want, not being restricted to certain amounts of macros and calories).

 

[GymWolf]

I do fruits and vegetables for breakfast and dinner. and then a fella meal for dinner.


The ancient Persians were known for only eating once a day.

Lol that sound even sadder than eating healthy food and lean proteins...

 

[Lady Jane]

I did this in my bartending years. A muffin top was enough for them to look for a frivolous reason to fire you so it was brutal, especially on Bourbon Street in New Orleans where the competition is fierce. Chicken was a great resource for me. I would eat it at the end of shifts. I didn't bloat from it and it would last me a good while before I started getting hungry. I won't lie, it was miserable at the ~15 hour mark, plus it can make plans with friends awkward. Going out usually invovles eating and I always had to make excuses: "Oh I already ate" "I'm not hungry" "I'm not a fan of [the type of food the place we're at serves]."

It's hard. I recommend skipping on breakfast and only eating lunch + dinner. While working out, wear strong cloth. You'll sweat more and lose weight. You have to work out, there's no way around that.

 

[AJUMP23]

Lol that sound even sadder than eating healthy food and lean proteins...

I don’t go hungry I just eat healthy stuff because I was 400lbs. But now I’m not.

 

[dr_octagon]

The thing is, i'm a big guy

 

[GymWolf]

I did this in my bartending years. A muffin top was enough for them to look for a frivolous reason to fire you so it was brutal, especially on Bourbon Street in New Orleans where the competition is fierce. Chicken was a great resource for me. I would eat it at the end of shifts. I didn't bloat from it and it would last me a good while before I started getting hungry. I won't lie, it was miserable at the ~15 hour mark, plus it can make plans with friends awkward. Going out usually invovles eating and I always had to make excuses: "Oh I already ate" "I'm not hungry" "I'm not a fan of [the type of food the place we're at serves]."

It's hard. I recommend skipping on breakfast and only eating lunch + dinner. While working out, wear strong cloth. You'll sweat more and lose weight. You have to work out, there's no way around that.

I trained for the last 20 years but thanks for the heads up

I think i'm gonna stick with my usual diet plan, this thing doesn't sound hard, just pretty stupid or at the very least, not for everyone.

 

[GymWolf]

The difference is that people understand what i say.

 

[saturnalian]

Edit, wrong quote

 

[GeekyDad]

I do fruits and vegetables for breakfast and dinner. and then a fella meal for dinner.


The ancient Persians were known for only eating once a day.

 

[casablanca]

The thing is, i'm a big guy, 190 cm for 90-100 kg depends on the season, if you leave me on an empty stomach for 23 hours and with the job and training i do, you can bet your ass that i'm gonna eat an insane amount of calories in that one meal every single day, way way more than my caloric maintainance, let alone caloric deficit, especially if the diet only salvageble point is to eat what i want without counting calories...

You can’t start with OMAD or a 23h window , start or do a smaller window 12h or less and build up from there. So skipping breakfast is already a first great step as you count sleep.

Personally I do a 2h feeding time since I enjoy drinking a beer or whatever after diner and the results are spectacular for 5 years now. I get off of it during vacations and family visits to avoid questions.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Can't tell if this dude's serious or just wants to dunk on the overweight.

If you eat one meal a day to a point where you're stuffed, you will eat fewer calories than if you eat three meals to the point where you're "kinda full". Fasting in general also has health benefits. It's not a fucking challenge on a weird Japanese game show to pound down as much cake as humanly possible in one sitting. Of course it will work better if you eat better food instead of gorging on sugary junk food.

 

[GymWolf]

You've been training for the last 20 years, surely your own developed diet plan is like, extremely optimized by now? To the point where you have less than zero need to consider anything else?

Yeah but i'm a curious dude and the idea of eating the fuck i want even if just for one time a day was extremely tempting.

My diet is pretty sad aswell.

 

[GymWolf]

Can't tell if this dude's serious or just wants to dunk on the overweight.

If you eat one meal a day to a point where you're stuffed, you will eat fewer calories than if you eat three meals to the point where you're "kinda full". Fasting in general also has health benefits. It's not a fucking challenge on a weird Japanese game show to pound down as much cake as humanly possible in one sitting. Of course it will work better if you eat better food instead of gorging on sugary junk food.

The difference is that 3 or 4 or 5 healthy meals are still way less caloric and more proteic than a huge eat all you want meal, so i was trying to understand where the catch was.

I'm not trying to dunk on nothing, i was obese aswell when i was young, i have the max respect for people who start dieting and training.

 

[GymWolf]

You can’t start with OMAD or a 23h window , start or do a smaller window 12h or less and build up from there. So skipping breakfast is already a first great step as you count sleep.

Personally I do a 2h feeding time since I enjoy drinking a beer or whatever after diner and the results are spectacular for 5 years now. I get off of it during vacations and family visits to avoid questions.

Eating one time a day for an hour only sound rough for training reasons but i think i could pull it off no problem, i'm very flexible when it comes to diet (not really but i have a lot of discipline)

 

[Rentahamster]

I do UMAD?

Unlimited Meals A Day.

 

[GymWolf]

I do UMAD?

Unlimited Meals A Day.

Yeah but you mostly eat pumpkin seeds, not a big deal.

 

[Rockondevil]

Been doing 16/8 for a few years now.
I've considered a few times doing the OMAD but I'd probably make it more like 22/2.

Might actually start it a day or two a week and see how it goes.

I have a cheat day on weekends where I just eat whatever, whenever. That probably negates it all anyway.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

The difference is that 3 or 4 or 5 healthy meals are still way less caloric and more proteic than a huge eat all you want meal, so i was trying to understand where the catch was.

Who exactly is advocating that you go from 3-4-5 healthy meals to one junk food bonanza? I don't see that advice anywhere. If you want a fair comparison you could try to eat the stuff you normally eat just in one-meal-a-day form until you feel stuffed for a few weeks but it seems kind of pointless. I don't think anyone is contending that eating the least filling, most calorie-dense foods available in OMAD form is a better diet than eating healthy foods all throughout the day.

 

[GymWolf]

Who exactly is advocating that you go from 3-4-5 healthy meals to one junk food bonanza? I don't see that advice anywhere. If you want a fair comparison you could try to eat the stuff you normally eat just in one-meal-a-day form until you feel stuffed for a few weeks but it seems kind of pointless. I don't think anyone is contending that eating the least filling, most calorie-dense foods available in OMAD form is a better diet than eating healthy foods all throughout the day.

Because the main selling point of this diet is eat the fuck you want?! It's literally the slogan of this diet to bring fat people in...

Maybe you missed the video i posted where the doctor doesn't say once that you can't eat what you want, there is literally a chick eating burgers and fries in the thumbnail dude...

Why even doing this torture of a diet if the main selling point is kinda bullshit?!

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Because the main selling point of this diet is eat the fuck you want?!

Maybe you missed the video i posted where the doctor doesn't say once that you can't eat what you want, there is literally a chick eating burgers and fries in the thumbnail dude...

Why even doing this torture of a diet if the main selling point is bullshit?

The main selling point is for fatties to slim down with a sustainable strategy. So the video has a clickbait thumbnail... you realize that's the majority of YouTube these days right?

It's not torture. Losing weight by cutting calories but trying to spread your meager allotment throughout the entire day is the actual torture. You end up hungry all the time. I try to do a 6-7 hour feeding window which I'm not super consistent with, and occasionally I'll skip an entire day between a dinner and lunch which ends up being about a 36 hour fast. Of course I've also switched to a keto/carnivore style diet, so there are a couple of variables.

But, I can say that at no point in these last 6 months have I ever been as hungry as I would normally get multiple times a day when I wasn't doing intermittent fasting or keto. Literally an hour after one of those meals, even when I was at a rather large calorie surplus, I would get ravenously hungry. Being 'hungry' doesn't even hold the same meaning anymore to me. Now I go from a feeling of being full to just being able to acknowledge that I'm not full.

How any of that would apply to the bodybuilding world, I don't know. You'll have to quiz these gym bros that are talking up OMAD to you and eyeball em to see if they are turing into girly men

 

[GymWolf]

If i was a fatso, eating 4-5 times a day seems way more sustainable and appealing than eating once a day and you can't still eat what you want because we know what fatsos likes to eat...

Not sure how you were hungry by eating a lot of healty food 4-5 times a day compared to eating once, shit i have t9 force myself to

I guess different mentality etc.

 

[k1m1d4n]

Yeah but i'm a curious dude and the idea of eating the fuck i want even if just for one time a day was extremely tempting.

My diet is pretty sad aswell.

I'm with you on this one. I tried vegan, keto, warrior, coach Greg..... Whatever...
And the only thing that seems to work is, as the temperature rises I get leaner, when the temperature lowers I get fatter. And this is doing the same training, eating the same stuff...
I'm starting to lose my mind trying to figure out something that works for me all year round.

 

[Raven117]

What works for some May not work for others.

I do this maybe once a week every so often, but otherwise, nah. (I workout just about every day).

In the end, calorie deficit is what makes one lose weight.

 

[synchronicity]

I've been fasting for years. Sometimes longer fasts, but what I've fallen into is to have an 8 hour eating window (as much as I want, although not a bunch of trash) followed by roughly a 40 hour fasting window and repeating that cycle on an ongoing basis. Sometimes if my body feels the need I'll cut it to a 24 hour fast, but I never go more than 24 hours without the inclusion of at least a 24 hour fast.

If you research the benefits of fasting and consider how our bodies are designed - along with first hand experience of how you feel, it's incredibly compelling. We didn't evolve in an environment where convenient, calorie (and carbohydrate) rich food sources where continuously available. We lived in a "feast / fast" cycle by virtue of the difficulty of getting food. And our bodies adapted to those circumstances, using the (forced) fasting periods to optimize and clean up intracellular damage. Granted it's a counterintuitive way to live in today's world, but many beneficial things are at odds with the movement of the masses.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm with you on this one. I tried vegan, keto, warrior, coach Greg..... Whatever...
And the only thing that seems to work is, as the temperature rises I get leaner, when the temperature lowers I get fatter. And this is doing the same training, eating the same stuff...
I'm starting to lose my mind trying to figure out something that works for me all year round.

You need to adjust your caloric intake between seasons, you can't eat the same in the winter compared to the summer, also depends how much you train or how much cardio you do or what is your objective, deficit? Maintainance? Surplus?

I have experience with my body so i know what to eat to stay in surplus, maintainance or deficit, and i know my way around macros and calories so i don't need complicated plans, after a while become a second nature.

Learning how to cook and switching from healthy food that taste like cardboard to healthy food that taste decent was a huge deal for me this summer.

You need to start looking at some of those influencers on yt, most of them are shitheads but they give you a lot of healthy recipe that you can't come up if you don't have a mind for cooking or just a bit of fantasy.

Before yt i wasn't aware that you can make delicious egg whites muffin in the oven or even how to marinate stuff.

Little secret, toss your chicken breast in the toilette and never look back, and start using chicken thighs, way more flavourful and tender and almost impossible to ruin even if you are a shit cook like me.
Ask to your butcher to remove skin and bones and cook them in pieces or whole.

 

[GymWolf]

I've been fasting for years. Sometimes longer fasts, but what I've fallen into is to have an 8 hour eating window (as much as I want, although not a bunch of trash) followed by roughly a 40 hour fasting window and repeating that cycle on an ongoing basis. Sometimes if my body feels the need I'll cut it to a 24 hour fast, but I never go more than 24 hours without the inclusion of at least a 24 hour fast.

If you research the benefits of fasting and consider how our bodies are designed - along with first hand experience of how you feel, it's incredibly compelling. We didn't evolve in an environment where convenient, calorie (and carbohydrate) rich food sources where continuously available. We lived in a "feast / fast" cycle by virtue of the difficulty of getting food. And our bodies adapted to those circumstances, using the (forced) fasting periods to optimize and clean up intracellular damage. Granted it's a counterintuitive way to live in today's world, but many beneficial things are at odds with the movement of the masses.

I just don't think that this diet is ok for everyone, exactly like any diet is not for everyone.

I see this more for people who do sedentary work, no much training and have small\medium appetites.

You can have healthy benefits from many type of diets, for example i'm pretty sure that i eat way more healthy than many people who do this omad diet and eat their 2000 calories intake in shit food, autophagy can repair and help to a certain point if you eat shit everyday even if just once a day, and once again, eating what you want is kinda the big deal of this diet (if you can maintain yourself in the 2000-3000 calories range for the average person)

And i don't see how this diet is any good for people with intesne jobs who train everyday and want to put muscles, it can work for someone with good genetic that put muscles even by just wanking their dick 3 times a day but that's it, there is no magic that is gonna build muscle if you don't eat enough proteins.

Of course i'm talkimg about the more extreme but also more interesting variant where you eat once in a span of an hour, i guess that more flexibles types of fasting permits to eat at least 0.7-.8 gram of proteins (not optimal but better than nothing)

 

[BossLackey]

Like you, I've been doing IF somewhat naturally. I never eat breakfast and usually when I eat lunch, it's not until 2 or 3 PM. I've always found the topic fascinating so I've leaned into it, but never super consistently.

I definitely see much more consistent energy throughout the day when I'm doing IF and it's just so much more convenient to eat in a smaller window. Plus the autophagy angle (which I'm probably not inducing with my current IF schedule) is very interesting.

 

[Raven117]

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I've been fasting for years. Sometimes longer fasts, but what I've fallen into is to have an 8 hour eating window (as much as I want, although not a bunch of trash) followed by roughly a 40 hour fasting window and repeating that cycle on an ongoing basis. Sometimes if my body feels the need I'll cut it to a 24 hour fast, but I never go more than 24 hours without the inclusion of at least a 24 hour fast.

If you research the benefits of fasting and consider how our bodies are designed - along with first hand experience of how you feel, it's incredibly compelling. We didn't evolve in an environment where convenient, calorie (and carbohydrate) rich food sources where continuously available. We lived in a "feast / fast" cycle by virtue of the difficulty of getting food. And our bodies adapted to those circumstances, using the (forced) fasting periods to optimize and clean up intracellular damage. Granted it's a counterintuitive way to live in today's world, but many beneficial things are at odds with the movement of the masses.

Hmmm. Yes. The life expectancy of those early humans and obviously their ripped physical appearance….Something to aspire to for sure.

(Don’t fall for this nonsense as the ONLY reason to do this kind of stuff)

 

[synchronicity]

I just don't think that this diet is ok for everyone, exactly like any diet is not for everyone.

I see this more for people who do sedentary work, no much training and have small\medium appetites.

You can have healthy benefits from many type of diets, for example i'm pretty sure that i eat way more healthy than many people who do this omad diet and eat their 2000 calories intake in shit food, autophagy can repair and help to a certain point if you eat shit everyday even if just once a day, and once again, eating what you want is kinda the big deal of this diet (if you can maintain yourself in the 2000-3000 calories range for the average person)

And i don't see how this diet is any good for people with intesne jobs who train everyday and want to put muscles, it can work for someone with good genetic that put muscles even by just wanking their dick 3 times a day but that's it, there is no magic that is gonna build muscle if you don't eat enough proteins.

Of course i'm talkimg about the more extreme but also more interesting variant where you eat once in a span of an hour, i guess that more flexibles types of fasting permits to eat at least 0.7-.8 gram of proteins (not optimal but better than nothing)

Sure, we're all a bit different in some ways, and everyone should listen to their own bodies.

But I will say that there is plenty of evidence that fasting doesn't compromise muscle. I mean, if you're doing long, multiple day fasts and working out intensely, it's going to have an effect, but generally speaking, it's a myth that going periods without eating comes at the cost of muscle.

But I'm with you that there's no "proper" way to approach diet / health that can be applied universally, for a variety of reasons.

 

[GymWolf]

This autophagy thing remind me of the toriko manga.

Do i get an internal demon if i do omad?