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Hmmm. Yes. The life expectancy of those early humans and obviously their ripped physical appearance….Something to aspire to for sure.

(Don’t fall for this nonsense as the ONLY reason to do this kind of stuff)

Early humans died for other reasons than food scarcity oftentimes. (disease/sanitation/predators)

I think everyone should listen to their own body, but I think there's plenty of evidence to support that, generally speaking, the human body functions optimally when not subjected to an overabundance of calories (and nutrient poor diet, which is clearly problematic - just look around) and also includes periods of fasting. The digestive process is incredibly demanding and energy intensive, and when the body can rest from that occasionally, it has time to address other issues that receive little attention when so many resources are continuously preoccupied with food-assimilation. I mean, the diabetes epidemic is largely a disease of "too much, too often" for example. And diabetes connects with a whole host of related conditions that lead to compromised health and early death.

 

[GymWolf]

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Hmmm. Yes. The life expectancy of those early humans and obviously their ripped physical appearance….Something to aspire to for sure.

(Don’t fall for this nonsense as the ONLY reason to do this kind of stuff)

Fred flinstones looks pretty beefy tho.

 

[JimmyRustler]

I basically do 1 meal a day 2 times a week when off training and comine it with a cold shower in fasted state on said day.
As always with this stuff it's very hard to be sure but I do think that these two days help me with my regeneration immensly.

Since I don't really like to eat I could easily do this every day but there is just no way for me to eat 4700 cals (and I'm well on my way to 5k+) in one sitting with healthy food as I do not want to eat trash.

 

[GymWolf]

Cold shower is something that i need to start doing myself, i usually like to bath in cold sea.

 

[Relique]

So i have a question, can i eat the fuck i want in this omad diet? because this seems like the only salvageable point of this thing over a traditional iper-proteic diet where you eat a lot of food 4 times or more a day (lean, healthy low caloric food of course)

I just need to eat 1 time a day in 1 hour window, but can i actually eat shit food like a big ass 4000 calories pizza? how do you even fill the protein quota with one meal for day unless you eat like 2 kg of meat? (if you are a big boy like me)

How is this diet sustainable for bodybuilders? how do i even train with a 20+ hours empty stomach? i train at 7:30 pm and end around 9:00 pm so the only meal would be the post-wo dinner.

I'm fascinated by how many people have success with this thing, it sound absolutely counter-intuitive, especially for weightlifters.

No. You still follow your macros and watch your calorie intake. You are a bodybuilder so I assume you know what that means. Most people probably can't stuff more than their daily intake in a single meal and if they do they should still see benefits over someone who eats the same amount of calories spread out throughout the day. The reason being is that insulin greatly slows down the processes that make us lose weight, like gluconeogenesis in the liver to break down fat into carbs. By reducing the time this signaling molecule is circulating in the bloodstream, it extends the time that the body is in calories burning mode. There are other benefits like reducing cravings throughout the day after doing the diet for a little while and increasing the energy throughout the day. If you want to know the science behind it all I recommend looking up Dr. Jason Fung on youtube as a starting point.

Also wanted to point out that I don't know if there are many humans on earth that need 2kg meat per day. That's 550g of protein. Even the most extreme competition trainers probably need half of that. You said below that you are a 90kg guy. I don't know how extreme your training is but you absolute ceiling as a top athlete should be 2g per kilogram at most so about 180g. Most dude bros that go to the gym an hour a day don't even need half that.

The thing is, i'm a big guy, 190 cm for 90-100 kg depends on the season, if you leave me on an empty stomach for 23 hours and with the job and training i do, you can bet your ass that i'm gonna eat an insane amount of calories in that one meal every single day, way way more than my caloric maintainance, let alone caloric deficit, especially if the diet only salvageble point is to eat what i want without counting calories...
There is no fucking way that i can burn that amount of caloric surplus even if hormones, cortisol etc. do their tricks, human body is not a magical thing.

And let's not even start on the proteic quota, good luck on building muscles with small amounts of shit quality proteins (because that is the whole point of eating what you want, not being restricted to certain amounts of macros and calories).

It sounds like you have a pretty big appetite. You would have to try the diet and see how it will affect appetite in the long term. A week or two and you should settle into a habit. I can tell you from personal experience and from many others that they do find that such diets gets them eating less in the long run. If you can't stay disciplined naturally then you'd have to count calories/macros for that one meal then. It shouldn't be too hard.

I just don't think that this diet is ok for everyone, exactly like any diet is not for everyone.

I see this more for people who do sedentary work, no much training and have small\medium appetites.

You can have healthy benefits from many type of diets, for example i'm pretty sure that i eat way more healthy than many people who do this omad diet and eat their 2000 calories intake in shit food, autophagy can repair and help to a certain point if you eat shit everyday even if just once a day, and once again, eating what you want is kinda the big deal of this diet (if you can maintain yourself in the 2000-3000 calories range for the average person)

And i don't see how this diet is any good for people with intesne jobs who train everyday and want to put muscles, it can work for someone with good genetic that put muscles even by just wanking their dick 3 times a day but that's it, there is no magic that is gonna build muscle if you don't eat enough proteins.

Of course i'm talkimg about the more extreme but also more interesting variant where you eat once in a span of an hour, i guess that more flexibles types of fasting permits to eat at least 0.7-.8 gram of proteins (not optimal but better than nothing)

I've spoken to athletes that do well on the diet. You still have to take in enough protein but you can do that in the 1 hour. Over the years I've heard athletes talk about being on it in interviews including MMA/Kickboxing champions and football players. Anecdotal yeah but at least according to them it's workable.

This autophagy thing remind me of the toriko manga.

Do i get an internal demon if i do omad?

Autophagy isn't really a big benefit for shorter fasts like this. It's more of a factor for more extended fasts. Once your liver is completely depleted and you are completely in keto for a while then autophagy benefits come into play. That will take several days for most people.

 

[GymWolf]

Thanks for the explanation dude, i still prefer my type of diet but this is interesting at the very least.

Yeah the 2 kg of meat were a bit of an excessive example, i stay around 250 gr of pro per day given or taken now that i'm in recomp, more when i'm in bulk but not by that much, so if i don't eat much eggs, at least 1 kg of chicken\turkey\fish\is in the order, my carbs and fats are very low in proteins so i need proteins from main proteins sources mostly.

 

[Raven117]

Early humans died for other reasons than food scarcity oftentimes. (disease/sanitation/predators)

I think everyone should listen to their own body, but I think there's plenty of evidence to support that, generally speaking, the human body functions optimally when not subjected to an overabundance of calories (and nutrient poor diet, which is clearly problematic - just look around) and also includes periods of fasting. The digestive process is incredibly demanding and energy intensive, and when the body can rest from that occasionally, it has time to address other issues that receive little attention when so many resources are continuously preoccupied with food-assimilation. I mean, the diabetes epidemic is largely a disease of "too much, too often" for example. And diabetes connects with a whole host of related conditions that lead to compromised health and early death.

So, calorie deficit.

Got it.

 

[ÆMNE22A!C]

Today I fasted 20 hours and ate a tuna can. Later a keto meal.

I mostly fast around 15, 16 or 17 hours. Sometimes o don't fast at all.

 

[Raven117]

Moreover, there are plenty of studies that say the body cant process more than about 30 grams of protein at one time.

As always, do what works for you.

For me, its high protein, some carbs (mostly fibrous), three times a day. (with a protein shake before a workout, and a casein protein shake before bed).

Im holding on to muscle mass (maybe gaining a bit), and losing fat.

 

[synchronicity]

So, calorie deficit.

Got it.

You don't have to be on a calorie deficit just because you fast regularly. In my case, I easily eat enough in my 8 hour window to cover all my energy needs, even when counting in the 36-40 hour fasting period. The only difference is that my body isn't burdened with the digestive process on a continuous basis. It works very well for me. But everyone walks their own road in the way that works best for them.

 

[GymWolf]

Moreover, there are plenty of studies that say the body cant process more than about 30 grams of protein at one time.

As always, do what works for you.

For me, its high protein, some carbs (mostly fibrous), three times a day. (with a protein shake before a workout, and a casein protein shake before bed).

Im holding on to muscle mass (maybe gaining a bit), and losing fat.

I think the study says that you can't use more than 30-40 gr for muscle syntesys after each meal, but you can store/use all the proteins you eat unless is a stupidly high quantity. (Not sure if you were talking to me)

But yeah it is better to eat 4-5 times a day during this type of diet to always maintain the body and muscles in a certain state, usually 3 solid big meals and 1-2 shakers of whey if you can't stomach solid food every time.

I'm learning to cook a bit with whey, because even the shaker get annoying after a while...nothing elaborate tho, just adding some baking soda and then 30 into the macrowave for a cake pudding effect, not even sure if i'm gonna like this thing since i'm not really a sweet tooth guy

I don't really need caseine because i eat dinner very late (lately around 22:30) and i eat a lot of finers so all the proteins get slowed down a lot during the digestion, the only reason why i want to try caseine it's because for cooking they have a way better texture (and maybe taste) but they are a bit too high in sugars\calories, i always use the less caloric isolate i can find.

 

[Raven117]

You don't have to be on a calorie deficit just because you fast regularly. In my case, I easily eat enough in my 8 hour window to cover all my energy needs, even when counting in the 36-40 hour fasting period. The only difference is that my body isn't burdened with the digestive process on a continuous basis. It works very well for me. But everyone walks their own road in the way that works best for them.

As long as it works for you amigo. (I've also heard the exact opposite of this "Caveman" type diet where they say that cave man "grazed" and thus were always digesting a little....so yeah...its all bull shit, just do what works for you).

I think the study says that you can't use more than 30-40 gr for muscle syntesys after each meal, but you can store/use all the proteins you eat unless is a stupidly high quantity. (Not sure if you were talking to me)

But yeah it is better to eat 4-5 times a day during this type of diet to always maintain the body and muscles in a certain state, usually 3 solid big meals and 1-2 shakers of whey if you can't stomach solid food every time.

I'm learning to cook a bit with whey, because even the shaker get annoying after a while...nothing elaborate tho, just adding some baking soda and then 30 into the macrowave for a cake pudding effect, not even sure if i'm gonna like this thing since i'm not really a sweet tooth guy

I don't really need caseine because i eat dinner very late (lately around 22:30) and i eat a lot of finers so all the proteins get slowed down a lot during the digestion, the only reason why i want to try caseine it's because for cooking they have a way better texture (and maybe taste) but they are a bit too high in sugars\calories, i always use the less caloric isolate i can find.

Wasn't really talking to you, but happy to discuss as I think we have similar approaches to this.

As for your point about muscle syntesys, yeah, I think that is right. Wait, what is this about cooking with whey? Are you talking whey powder to make a cake or something? Or are you talking about actually using whey seperated out from milk (which is actually a very cool ingredient to use in cooking).

You thin casein has too high of sugars? The stuff I use has very little of that.

 

[Fools idol]

wowee there is a lot of BroScience going on in this thread.

TLDR, doesn't matter when you eat food as long as you eat less calories than you burn in a day to lose weight.

It's been proven many times you can sit there for days on end eating McDonalds and chocolate all day as long as you don't go over your required daily deficit.

The entire diet industry exists by making this fact seem more complicated than it is to sell products, courses and supplements. It's all bullshit.

There is no long term peer reviewed study that has proven intermittent fasting periods have any effect at all on weight loss. It does however show mild health benefits such as relief from irritable bowel syndrome and other digestive disorders, and has been shown to reduce type 2 diabetic symptoms.

Thats it. If it works for you OP, have at it brother.

 

[GymWolf]

As long as it works for you amigo. (I've also heard the exact opposite of this "Caveman" type diet where they say that cave man "grazed" and thus were always digesting a little....so yeah...its all bull shit, just do what works for you).


Wasn't really talking to you, but happy to discuss as I think we have similar approaches to this.

As for your point about muscle syntesys, yeah, I think that is right. Wait, what is this about cooking with whey? Are you talking whey powder to make a cake or something? Or are you talking about actually using whey seperated out from milk (which is actually a very cool ingredient to use in cooking).

You thin casein has too high of sugars? The stuff I use has very little of that.

I'm talking about extremely simple stuff because i'm a shit cook, something like pick a bowl, put 2 scoops, some water, a bit of baking soda, a bit of unsweetened cocoa powder, mix the thing, put in the microwave for 30-60 et voila, aspudding of some sort, depend on the whey you use the consistence is gonna change, caseine are probably the best for cooking, but there are a fuckload of recipes with whey powder, from muffins to brownies to cakes etc. But i hate cooking and most sweet things so i stick to the basic stuff.

About the fats and sugars in caseines, of course they are still super low compared to many protein sources, but compared to isolate whey, speciafically if you use the lowest in calories, the difference is noticeable, not a deal breaker of course, what i'm using now has like 26 gr of pro for 30 grams and less than 100 cal for scoop, i think they are called isofuji yamamoto.

Like i said, on yt you can find a lot of recipes.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

If you wanna know more about the benefits, I suggest looking into Dr. Jason Fung. Many diseases like Type 2 Diabetes can be cured implementing IF/Keto.

Yes, incredible study with sample size = 3.

Steve Jobs also tried herbs for his cancer, wonder how that worked out for him?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

TLDR, doesn't matter when you eat food as long as you eat less calories than you burn in a day to lose weight.

As always, the only correct response, but hey - don’t you think all thousands of YouTubers can’t be wrong? After all they are the experts.

 

[dr_octagon]

Reading this thread while planning an ice cream challenge is not the best idea.

 

[GymWolf]

Reading this thread while planning an ice cream challenge is not the best idea.

An ice cream challenge?

 

[dr_octagon]

An ice cream challenge?

Order lot of ice cream and eat it all in one sitting.

 

[Raven117]

wowee there is a lot of BroScience going on in this thread.

TLDR, doesn't matter when you eat food as long as you eat less calories than you burn in a day to lose weight.

It's been proven many times you can sit there for days on end eating McDonalds and chocolate all day as long as you don't go over your required daily deficit.

The entire diet industry exists by making this fact seem more complicated than it is to sell products, courses and supplements. It's all bullshit.

There is no long term peer reviewed study that has proven intermittent fasting periods have any effect at all on weight loss. It does however show mild health benefits such as relief from irritable bowel syndrome and other digestive disorders, and has been shown to reduce type 2 diabetic symptoms.

Thats it. If it works for you OP, have at it brother.

Yup. It really is simple math (though when you are really getting into details about glycemic index and stuff like that...yeah...there can be some very small tweaks to be made, but it still doesn't change the original math). Of course this is macro....Micro, different story.

I'm talking about extremely simple stuff because i'm a shit cook, something like pick a bowl, put 2 scoops, some water, a bit of baking soda, a bit of unsweetened cocoa powder, mix the thing, put in the microwave for 30-60 et voila, aspudding of some sort, depend on the whey you use the consistence is gonna change, caseine are probably the best for cooking, but there are a fuckload of recipes with whey powder, from muffins to brownies to cakes etc. But i hate cooking and most sweet things so i stick to the basic stuff.

About the fats and sugars in caseines, of course they are still super low compared to many protein sources, but compared to isolate whey, speciafically if you use the lowest in calories, the difference is noticeable, not a deal breaker of course, what i'm using now has like 26 gr of pro for 30 grams and less than 100 cal for scoop, i think they are called isofuji yamamoto.

Like i said, on yt you can find a lot of recipes.

Wow. Weird. I shouldn't be surprised, but still.

Im a great cook that doesn't have much of a sweet tooth, so it never dawned on me to even try something like this. I suppose it would work if you needed more of the sensation of eating (and not just chugging a shaker....which, I can get behind...sometimes, you just want to go through the process of eating).

 

[GymWolf]

Order lot of ice cream and eat it all in one sitting.

Order? Like from an outside place? Why not just buying 10 different pack of ben and jerry to keep in the freezer?

Jesus last time i eat refined shitty sugars were like 1 month ago...

The most "unhealthy" sugar i ate now is a bit of honey for the chicken marinade...

 

[dr_octagon]

Order? Like from an outside place? Why not just buying 10 different pack of ben and jerry to keep in the freezer?

I'm a narcissistic who requires a constant level of attention, an audience is required.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm a narcissistic who requires a constant level of attention, an audience is required.

Do you pay the delivery guy to look at you while you eat or what?

 

[GymWolf]

Yup. It really is simple math (though when you are really getting into details about glycemic index and stuff like that...yeah...there can be some very small tweaks to be made, but it still doesn't change the original math). Of course this is macro....Micro, different story.

Wow. Weird. I shouldn't be surprised, but still.

Im a great cook that doesn't have much of a sweet tooth, so it never dawned on me to even try something like this. I suppose it would work if you needed more of the sensation of eating (and not just chugging a shaker....which, I can get behind...sometimes, you just want to go through the process of eating).

I envy your cooking prowess, i hate cooking and i'm no good at it, i also lack fantasy in the kitchen.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Like you, I've been doing IF somewhat naturally. I never eat breakfast and usually when I eat lunch, it's not until 2 or 3 PM. I've always found the topic fascinating so I've leaned into it, but never super consistently.

I definitely see much more consistent energy throughout the day when I'm doing IF and it's just so much more convenient to eat in a smaller window. Plus the autophagy angle (which I'm probably not inducing with my current IF schedule) is very interesting.

Yep, this is me as well. I skipped lunch yesterday and did OMAD unintentionally. I honestly hate having to try to cram in enough calories into one meal but I can manage when it happens.

I tend to do my workouts / runs in a fasted state as well.

 

[Nico_D]

I walk 20k+ steps per day all around the year so I can eat pretty much whatever I want.

I never was big on diets. They may work, for some, but to be completely honest, I think they are somewhat a lazy solution where the grown up solution is to eat less, smaller portions at dinner, less snacks and sugary drinks.

Fasting... I don't know. Sounds like torture, couldn't probably do it - especially when living with other people. I think they would have to do it too for it to work.

 

[dr_octagon]

Do you pay the delivery guy to look at you while you eat or what?

It will be in ice cream store, ambulance on standby.

 

[SpiceRacz]

At the very least, anyone trying to lose weight should skip breakfast. You're less likely to get that insulin spike that causes you to snack and overeat. Same idea applies to OMAD and why people have a lot of success on it.

 

[GymWolf]

At the very least, anyone trying to lose weight should skip breakfast. You're less likely to get that insulin spike that causes you to snack and overeat. Same idea applies to OMAD and why people have a lot of success on it.

Not for everyone, if i make breakfast i have way less hunger for launch and i surely don't snack around...

I think it depends on what type of breakfast you do, if you put some proteins and fibers in it you can say goodbye to hunger.

 

[synchronicity]

Dr Fung was already mentioned in this thread, but I thought I'd add one of his clips for any interested.

 

[Raven117]

I envy your cooking prowess, i hate cooking and i'm no good at it, i also lack fantasy in the kitchen.

Bro! Gotta learn to cook! Getting a chance to work with your hands, being creative, and it impresses the ladies....all great boons from acquiring such skill. To me, its freakin relaxing. Throw on good tunes, open an adult beverage or coffee, and settle in.

But, now out of curiosity, I want to try this weird whey pudding you are talking about.

 

[Raven117]

At the very least, anyone trying to lose weight should skip breakfast. You're less likely to get that insulin spike that causes you to snack and overeat. Same idea applies to OMAD and why people have a lot of success on it.

As always, do what works for you.

But eating a half of cup of overnight oats, eggs (with added egg whites), can set you up for success during the day.

 

[GymWolf]

Bro! Gotta learn to cook! Getting a chance to work with your hands, being creative, and it impresses the ladies....all great boons from acquiring such skill. To me, its freakin relaxing. Throw on good tunes, open an adult beverage or coffee, and settle in.

But, now out of curiosity, I want to try this weird whey pudding you are talking about.

I work all day and when i return at home i train until it's dark, i literally finished training 5 min ago (it's 9:30 pm here in italy), i don't have the willpower to lose time on the kitchen, i'm gonna do my usual marinade for the chicken and a cucumber salad and i'm gonna eat in about 45 min from now.

Cooking is just something that i hate, it's stronger than me, you relax with it, i get nervous instead.

Dude if you know how to cook, toss away that shit pudding, there is a lot of elaborate way tastier recipes for whey online, just search cooking with whey or recipes for whey, that will tennyson dude has a a couple of videos about this stuff and his stuff looks fucking delicious but it is too complicated for my level.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

wowee there is a lot of BroScience going on in this thread.

TLDR, doesn't matter when you eat food as long as you eat less calories than you burn in a day to lose weight.

It's been proven many times you can sit there for days on end eating McDonalds and chocolate all day as long as you don't go over your required daily deficit.

My best short-term success with my weight was actually very heavy on McDonalds and calorie counting. But ultimately I don't think it's sustainable.

If you subscribe to pure CICO then the obvious answer is that a long-term fast is the best way to lose weight.

But just saying "CICO" is naive. In the long-term the battle needs to be balancing hunger against your CICO. And your calories-in can affect your calories-out and vice versa.

The entire diet industry exists by making this fact seem more complicated than it is to sell products, courses and supplements. It's all bullshit.

Sure, there's a lot of bullshit in the diet industry. There's also endless bullshit in the 'food' industry in general.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

The thing is, i'm a big guy, 190 cm for 90-100 kg depends on the season, if you leave me on an empty stomach for 23 hours and with the job and training i do, you can bet your ass that i'm gonna eat an insane amount of calories in that one meal every single day, way way more than my caloric maintainance, let alone caloric deficit, especially if the diet only salvageble point is to eat what i want without counting calories...
There is no fucking way that i can burn that amount of caloric surplus even if hormones, cortisol etc. do their tricks, human body is not a magical thing.

And let's not even start on the proteic quota, good luck on building muscles with small amounts of shit quality proteins (because that is the whole point of eating what you want, not being restricted to certain amounts of macros and calories).

You and I are about the same With me having those crazy-high calorie days and not really gaining weight, it makes me wonder if our bodies can even process all of those calories if it doesn't have the "practice" to do it. Maybe more of it passes without getting absorbed if it's not something you do all the time.

Regardless, yeah, I would think trying to keep up muscle mass on OMAD (rather than cardio, in my case) would be a hard task.

Only one way to find out for yourself, though!

Moreover, there are plenty of studies that say the body cant process more than about 30 grams of protein at one time.

As always, do what works for you.

For me, its high protein, some carbs (mostly fibrous), three times a day. (with a protein shake before a workout, and a casein protein shake before bed).

Im holding on to muscle mass (maybe gaining a bit), and losing fat.

Does this mean what I think it means: say I stick to my OMAD schedule and eat 60g of protein in one sitting, the body will likely only absorb the calories of half of it?

 

[Raven117]

You and I are about the same With me having those crazy-high calorie days and not really gaining weight, it makes me wonder if our bodies can even process all of those calories if it doesn't have the "practice" to do it. Maybe more of it passes without getting absorbed if it's not something you do all the time.

Regardless, yeah, I would think trying to keep up muscle mass on OMAD (rather than cardio, in my case) would be a hard task.

Only one way to find out for yourself, though!

Does this mean what I think it means: say I stick to my OMAD schedule and eat 60g of protein in one sitting, the body will likely only absorb the calories of half of it?

For muscle synthesis, yeah....thats what some of the research is showing.

Also, I have found my body is much more efficient at burning calories when I keep giving it calories more often than once a day. I do like to zig zag though...Some days low, some days high. (Always lots of protein though). Seems to work for me.

 

[Raven117]

I work all day and when i return at home i train until it's dark, i literally finished training 5 min ago (it's 9:30 pm here in italy), i don't have the willpower to lose time on the kitchen, i'm gonna do my usual marinade for the chicken and a cucumber salad and i'm gonna eat in about 45 min from now.

Cooking is just something that i hate, it's stronger than me, you relax with it, i get nervous instead.

Dude if you know how to cook, toss away that shit pudding, there is a lot of elaborate way tastier recipes for whey online, just search cooking with whey or recipes for whey, that will tennyson dude has a a couple of videos about this stuff and his stuff looks fucking delicious but it is too complicated for my level.

I hear ya man. During the week, Im defrosting grilled/smoked chicken I made on Sunday with roasted broccoli. (Unless I have some project I'm working on. My quest for excellent homemade hot sauce will continue...Ive made some "pretty good" stuff).

Im talking weekends. Im talking a bottle of Barolo. I'm talking Pavarotti. I'm talking some tall brunette who likes rustic ragout sauce (Maybe take out the brunette until you are comfortable in the kitchen). Just saying. Maybe try giving cooking another shot!

 

[TTOOLL]

More like UMAD???

 

[Kenpachii]

Sounds like a bad idea, u don't want your sugar to drop.

 

[AJUMP23]

Fasting... I don't know. Sounds like torture, couldn't probably do it - especially when living with other people. I think they would have to do it too for it to work.

Fasting isn't torture and it can be very helpful. One of the things it does is it allows you to focus on many things other than what you will eat next. When I was a kid I did a 7 day fast with my mom and brother. As an adult there are times when I will do a 1 day fast or 3 day just to give myself the ability to focus on something other than food. Another main component to fasting for me is spiritual growth. When I fast the times I should eat I pray and read the bible.

 

[p_xavier]

I've been eating a meal a day for the last 6 months. Feels good.

 

[AlphaMale]

So i have a question, can i eat the fuck i want in this omad diet? because this seems like the only salvageable point of this thing over a traditional iper-proteic diet where you eat a lot of food 4 times or more a day (lean, healthy low caloric food of course)

I just need to eat 1 time a day in 1 hour window, but can i actually eat shit food like a big ass 4000 calories pizza? how do you even fill the protein quota with one meal for day unless you eat like 2 kg of meat? (if you are a big boy like me)

How is this diet sustainable for bodybuilders? how do i even train with a 20+ hours empty stomach? i train at 7:30 pm and end around 9:00 pm so the only meal would be the post-wo dinner.

I'm fascinated by how many people have success with this thing, it sound absolutely counter-intuitive, especially for weightlifters.

I've been doing Intermittent Fasting (19-5) for about 3 years now. During my eating window, I eat anything I want, as much as I want.
Seems to be working well for me. I think having a narrower windows helps in this regard. Not sure I'd do the same if I were on a 16-8 schedule...

 

[GymWolf]

I've been doing Intermittent Fasting (19-5) for about 3 years now. During my eating window, I eat anything I want, as much as I want.
Seems to be working well for me. I think having a narrower windows helps in this regard. Not sure I'd do the same if I were on a 16-8 schedule...

Anything you want is as vague as it comes, my anything i want and your anything you want could probably be wildly different (dah).

 

[synchronicity]

Fasting isn't torture and it can be very helpful. One of the things it does is it allows you to focus on many things other than what you will eat next. When I was a kid I did a 7 day fast with my mom and brother. As an adult there are times when I will do a 1 day fast or 3 day just to give myself the ability to focus on something other than food. Another main component to fasting for me is spiritual growth. When I fast the times I should eat I pray and read the bible.

I don't identify with any religion, but there is undoubtedly a spiritual component to fasting. The removal of the physical - food in this case - comes attached to a heightened spirituality. And there's also a wonderful mental clarity that is unique to the fasted state in my experience.

 

[GymWolf]

I don't identify with any religion, but there is undoubtedly a spiritual component to fasting. The removal of the physical - food in this case - comes attached to a heightened spirituality. And there's also a wonderful mental clarity that is unique to the fasted state in my experience.

Ok now i understand why a filthy atheist like me doesn't get this diet