bonney will join and you will like it! anybody think that capone might get rid of chiffone if he manages to kill big mom? he might keep his kid but she does not really serve a purpose if he only married her to get big mom's protection. plus it would be an easy way to make luffy his enemy again.No one favorite candidate will join!
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One Piece Manga |OT2| Four Emperors, One King, All Blue
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Jinbei and zoro serve as the stand in leaders whenever luffy is absent. They also serve as advisors and keep the crew focussed and disciplined.
Zoro is the vice captain.
Jinbei's going to be the diplomat.
Most of the 1st mate duties actually get divided up between usopp, sanji, and zoro. The strawhats don't have a traditional first mate.
I don't think Carrot's that young? Recall that Luffy's only 19. Carrot can't be more than 3 years younger by the look of her (assuming Minks run the same as humans, which is a safe bet since Chopper also seems to).
SolVanderlyn
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I'd accept this.
NHarmonic.
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Carrot and jimbei are a lock, now i think. And we'll finally get the number luffy wanted.
Elbaf will bring giants to the alliance.
Elbaf will bring giants to the alliance.
Zoro is not the vice captain. Most people may see him that way but the strawhats don't have a vice captain. After luffy everyone is equal.
Also saying jinbei is going to be the diplomat is just baseless assumption. We could also just assume something for carrot like spy or whatever people have mentioned but that's not how it works
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Luffys hat is first mate.
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Zoro is Luffy's first mate. He's the Rayleigh to Luffy's Roger. Both litterally and the fact he's the second strongest member of the crew which is usually how it goes down.
He also has a certain amount of sway over Luffy as Luffy rarely tends to outright over rule him case and point his threat to leave the crew if they forgave Ussop and he fought Luffy.
Blackleg-sanji1
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First mate is the most senior member of the crew. That's Zoro he joined first. Just like Rayleigh with Roger and Ben Beckman with Shanks.
He's also a supernova in his own right.
Time and strenght has nothing to do with being first mate, it has to with who has more power of decision making after the captain. Nami has huge influence inside the ship, people forget this because most of the time the story is outside the ship where she has less influence and Zoro, who is only a fighter has more.
KuwabaraTheMan
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He's the strongest, not second strongest.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Fair enough
DriftingSpirit
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Zoro is the first mate. First to join, second strongest, leads the crew when Luffy isn't around, has moments when he gets stuff straightened out (put his foot down when Ussop was leaving crew, etc...) and he has a parallel to Rayleigh.
Obviously, it isn't official because Luffy doesn't roll like that but it is rather clear Zoro is unofficially the first mate.
Obviously, it isn't official because Luffy doesn't roll like that but it is rather clear Zoro is unofficially the first mate.
That isn't making a strong case for her.
The thing I loved about Zoro being first mate is that for the entirety of the first half of this manga, everyone was astonished that Zoro was "merely" a subordinate. Having a superpowerful 1st mate in the One Piece universe lends more credit to the captain. Hence why Gol(d) and Silvers were probably such a great tag team.
Hell, Rogers and Rayleigh's first meeting kinda parallels Luffy and Zoro's in that it was simply 2 bros recognizing each other's strength:
"Hey bro, you seem like a cool strong guy. Wanna go fuck the world up?"
"Sounds great, fam"
"Cool"
Hell, Rogers and Rayleigh's first meeting kinda parallels Luffy and Zoro's in that it was simply 2 bros recognizing each other's strength:
"Hey bro, you seem like a cool strong guy. Wanna go fuck the world up?"
"Sounds great, fam"
"Cool"
I am on the team that the crew doesn't have one, I just saying that Nami has a stronger claim than Zoro.
When has this ever happened?
gundamkyoukai
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Another thing is Luffy expect Zoro to take care of things when he is not there.
Like in Skypiea where he found robin knock out and said how this could happen when Zoro was there.
Still Luffy does not have the usual first mate as we know it.
Like in Skypiea where he found robin knock out and said how this could happen when Zoro was there.
Still Luffy does not have the usual first mate as we know it.
Blackleg-sanji1
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lol seriously
SolVanderlyn
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....I just now made the connection between Gold Roger and Silvers Rayleigh's naming conventions.
Gold and Silver.
I feel really dumb.
is it possible for jimbei to become 1st mate even though he joined so late in the game? before jimbei i think luffy would trust zoro before anybody else to lead the crew in a pinch . jimbei is much better suited for that role since he was a ton of years leading a powerful crew of his own and the experience that came with it. i think either zoro or jimbei is going to lead the alliance while luffy and either zoro or jimbei becomes the power combo that leads the strawhats in battle. i think jimbei would be better to lead the alliance in battle since he has a ton of experience and is a good diplomat that many would feel comfortable following. i rather most of the strawhat crew go into battle together from now on and especially when they take on kaido.
DriftingSpirit
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I mean, Zoro literally shouldered his captain's pain and didn't say a word about it. Symbolically, no one comes close to that portrayal.
No one is saying Luffy has that type of structure. Obviously, he doesn't. That doesn't mean that no one has a role in his crew. If they had to be laid out, Zoro's would be first mate.
Several times.
Roger didn't seem like that type either but Rayleigh was considered first mate either way.
No one is saying Luffy has that type of structure. Obviously, he doesn't. That doesn't mean that no one has a role in his crew. If they had to be laid out, Zoro's would be first mate.
Did we watch the same scene? Because sanji was ready to do exactly the same thing if zoro hadn't knocked him out.
Ok.. nice example
Yeah there's the problem, IF. We are talking about the real deal though, not what ifs.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Usopp would be first mate tho?
We were always Bart.We bartolomeo now
An idiot amirete guys?
I literally never thought of it god i'm dumb when it comes to this stuff
Blackleg-sanji1
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Y'all joking with the gold and silver right? I mean scopper gaban (copper) gold,silver,copper...one piece gaf kinda slow lol
are you also unaware of scopper gaban being copper?
I have no idea who that is without checking the wiki
Sir Ilpalazzo
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To be fair I'm not sure his name has ever even come up in the manga itself.
SolVanderlyn
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I didn't know who Scopper Gaban even was.
Roger Pirates' names are my personal Rubik's cube I guess.
Roger Pirates' names are my personal Rubik's cube I guess.
Same here.
GoodMorningPluto
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Also until now I was certain his name is Scopper Gabran. Maybe cause it flies off the tongue better.
grandjedi6
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Nami's the quartermaster:
Zoro's effectively the First Mate though the series goes out of it's way to avoid referring to him as such.
It fits Nami's position very nicely. About Zoro, I won't deny that he acts like first mate outside of the ship, but I feel he needs to act like this inside the ship to be called one.
I doubt Zoro would get married though, he comes across as a Vegeta of not wanting none of dat.
Unless they married off-screen to my knowledge.
probably won't see them actually getting married, I was thinking that there'll be some sort of time skip after the ending and we'll see Zoro around alive with Tashigi hanging out with him (and Luffy will be dead
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