names2hard4you
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Thanks guys, I'm just kinda going "with my balls" as I play. I just took on what seems to be the first main quest and damn if these floors don't have a lot to explore lol.
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Thanks guys, I'm just kinda going "with my balls" as I play. I just took on what seems to be the first main quest and damn if these floors don't have a lot to explore lol.
Like I said, stupid question. Holding down X will do it (I'm guessing you have a Vita from Japan).
names2hard4you
Member
I must be doing this wrong, I have a wizard but don't use her spells because of how limited their use is. Is there a way of replenishing it in the dungeons without resting in the academy? Cuz if so, only my front row is doing damage while my back row guards
No, spells are just limited early on. You'll get more soon enough.
That's how I have been handling the start of the game. The spells seem to do a good amount of damage so I can see why they don't want you spamming them at the start. No idea when/if it gets better, but I assume it does.
I didn't use my Wizard for most of the game, just defended and used enfloat.
names2hard4you
Member
Ah I see thanks. My whole back row feels completely useless ATM.
Yeah all I do is explore and when a battle pops up I just hold X to victory lol.
Like my academic now, I just use her to inspect stuff and disarm traps.
Invest in basic stuff like a boomerang or rocket punch if you want a small damage boost. Once your academic gets to 15, you're golden.
Wait until she gets Brain Spire, she'll be able to fill your Unity meter every turn.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
yeah generally thats how the rear rows are for a while in more traditional wizardry games lol.
unless you have a backrow attacker like an archer or assassin using throwing stars.
names2hard4you
Member
Sounds good, I'll need to keep playing then. I'm still stuck on this mission, I believe I missed a trigger of some sort and I've pretty much explored all 3 floors and still can't find a way to unlock the door on the 25th floor. I need to stop playing for today lol
EDIT: OMFG A HIDDEN DOOR. FFS.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Started the game earlier and damn it's overwhelming :0 love it though
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
haha nice and congrats with finding the door
yeah there most def is a lot to learn at the start.
names2hard4you
Member
I just spent hours circling the goddamn door. So frustrating, yet I keep going.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
at least all the fighting got you loot resources and exp lol
names2hard4you
Member
Yeah and the funny thing is that I was so overlevelled too. Also the game just showed me tutorials of stuff that I figured out hours ago, when I was complaining about there not being much help. I was stuck going in circles for so long that I learned everything that they could have taught me lol.
Well one thing is for sure, after spending this long with the game I finally "get it". There are certain things that I don't pay too much attention to in the stats such as the alignment and whatnot, but I understand how the game works mechanically, how to restock my supplies, and the search for materials that will allow me to craft new equipment. The dungeons are intricate, and interesting. It took a while, so I can definitely see why reviewers might have a hard time with the game. You have to really look for your info in the game, and most of the stuff you have to figure out yourself with experimentation.
It's a nice touch to show that the second semester is basically a sequel to the the first as in being a new game inside the same game.
vagabondarts
Member
I'm not going to be able to keep up with the pace you guys are playing this.
Level 4. Things are really starting to click now.
Level 4. Things are really starting to click now.
Anti-poison items should be pretty cheap in the shop.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
haha if you have spare cash try looking into the trap decoys also if the shop has them
can't wait. Usually it takes 8 more hours until the delivery guy from dpd arrives.Wrapped up the main story tonight. The game is solid - I give Operation Abyss the edge over Demon Gaze. I need to sleep on it some, but I felt it was more cohesive start to finish (the stylish aesthetic and setting were a plus, too). In many regards it was actually a little more standard in structure, despite the technobabble-ish lingo and such. Class system, dungeon designs, mission structure never become too overwrought - although I think I would have liked the dungeons to become a little more intricate than they ended up being.
For most of the game, I didn't feel challenged much. Nearing the end I started blitzing through objectives and missions and eventually the difficulty caught up with me. I had to set aside just a bit of time right before the final stretch to boost/tailor my party. Otherwise, the game was pretty painless - a little less troublesome than Demon Gaze.
Will definitely be checking out the post-game tomorrow.
For most of the game, I didn't feel challenged much. Nearing the end I started blitzing through objectives and missions and eventually the difficulty caught up with me. I had to set aside just a bit of time right before the final stretch to boost/tailor my party. Otherwise, the game was pretty painless - a little less troublesome than Demon Gaze.
Will definitely be checking out the post-game tomorrow.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
very cool write up good to hear that you enjoyed your experience so far.
Have you left the academic behind or something? If not maybe his intelligence is a little low, you could try adding equipment that boosts it?
jamsethoth
Member
I love this game so far, not that I'm far in. Currently running around with a party of F: Knight, Samurai, Archer; B: Wizard, Physician, Academic. I think I'll be swapping the archer to the back in place of the academic, and then putting an Assassin in the front row though.
My party is only level 2 right now though, so who knows what'll happen in the long run. Anyone have any thoughts?
Also, is PHYS super crucial, or can I get away with leaving it below 10 for my back row?
My party is only level 2 right now though, so who knows what'll happen in the long run. Anyone have any thoughts?
Also, is PHYS super crucial, or can I get away with leaving it below 10 for my back row?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
get phys up to at least 14-15
jamsethoth
Member
Yeah, I kinda figured. Ah well, thanks for the tip! Also, what are the primary damage stats for Archer and Assassin? Is STR still required, or should I just be stacking up LUK and SPD?
Because the Nisa store did not wrap my ordner good enough one of the corners of the limited edition and one of the art book is smashed -_-...
So I'll have to read how much fun you guys have >>..
Edit: Nisa support is incredible. wrote an email 25 minutes ago and already the problem is solved, I can start play the game and "OK, what I shall do is request a new Limited Edition Box and Art Book to be sent out to you tomorrow. I will ask our fulfilment team to double check those items to ensure that they are in pristine condition before sending them to you."
So I'll have to read how much fun you guys have >>..
Edit: Nisa support is incredible. wrote an email 25 minutes ago and already the problem is solved, I can start play the game and "OK, what I shall do is request a new Limited Edition Box and Art Book to be sent out to you tomorrow. I will ask our fulfilment team to double check those items to ensure that they are in pristine condition before sending them to you."
names2hard4you
Member
They make fair points. Those were exactly my impressions until I understood how the game works. Everything he says is valid. This game isn't for everyone.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Really enjoying this so far.
I like that gear can be acquired from random battles complete and "broken".
The magic circle in Demon Gaze was neat at first, but all too often I felt like I had to look up a guide to have a chance at specific weapons/skills. This game keeps it simple with drops.
It's weird though. I've played waaaaaaaay more Wizardry clones than the actual Wizardry series.
I like that gear can be acquired from random battles complete and "broken".
The magic circle in Demon Gaze was neat at first, but all too often I felt like I had to look up a guide to have a chance at specific weapons/skills. This game keeps it simple with drops.
It's weird though. I've played waaaaaaaay more Wizardry clones than the actual Wizardry series.
The thing is players nowadays want the game to explain everything. Not all games are going to do that and it's up to the players if they want to figure it out themselves or just dismiss it altogether. As a reviewer, you have to point that out, but you have to give it a fair chance before dismissing it without even trying.
When you're assigning stat points you'll see some portraits below. Those are the classes.
shiftplusone
Member
so i really enjoyed demon gaze but this kind of killed it for me and I haven't played it in months because of it.
They streamlined this then? I'd love to pick this up if so
names2hard4you
Member
If you selected basic mode, it pretty much gives you that setup off the bat. The thing is to see their "class" you have to look at their Blood, and read the description to see which one you fall into. Also, on your stats, I believe next to your level you will see a letter such as "K" or "W" or "Ac" and those would correspond to Knight, Warrior and Academic respectively.
I'm not defending the reviewer by any means since he should his homework, but this game is old, it's just that it has a fresh coat of paint of top. Mechanically, it is a bit clunky and complex, the pretty visuals are there but this is an old school game. Demon Gaze for instance was much easier, and the mechanics were simpler to understand in my opinion but it came before this game. Maybe the reviewer forgot that this isn't a sequel to it and that is why the mechanics felt odd and old to him.
You get loot by defeating enemies and finding certain spots on the map.
Finished the game today. Only have the post game content left to clear. I've enjoyed the game immensely, more so than Demon Gaze. I honestly believe I screwed up my DG playthrough - my samurai was useless by the time I reached the end game and I had to replace him. Boss fights felt really luck based; hoping Mars would survive and dish out her OP damage on the bosses.
Not sure how to put it, but - I guess I feel more in control in OA. I've yet to encounter any hair pulling moments. Although, I do have to admit I had to peruse the Japanese wiki more than once. The game could do with slightly less obtuseness, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
Not sure how to put it, but - I guess I feel more in control in OA. I've yet to encounter any hair pulling moments. Although, I do have to admit I had to peruse the Japanese wiki more than once. The game could do with slightly less obtuseness, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
I felt similarly, yeah.
jamsethoth
Member
I think you need an Academic to get past there. I had to go back and add one to my party to proceed. It's a good idea to do so though, so you can start to identify stuff for free.
I have one. I explored the two sewers side, my academics found a secret door with an item but there's still a locked gate.
Nevermind, had to talk to people in two places. Got the hint by trying to turn in the quest.
Very often, but not always, one of your party members will 'sense something hidden nearby' (or some similar wording) when there is something that needs revealing. Not sure what/where the exact solution to your current problem is.
Also, some locked doors require a Key Tool, they are indicated by a yellow marker, doors that need a switch are marked red, doors that can be unlocked by skill/luck are marked purple. Note that doors with keys (yellow) typically need to be unlocked again upon subsequent visits.
Edit: Just read you solved it.
jamsethoth
Member
Ooooohhhh. My bad. I didn't realize that had to be done to unlock the door. I must've done it before trying the door in the first place. =/
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Good.
That's another thing that bugged me about Demon Gaze.
Mars was pretty much the MVP in every boss-fight. Those bosses that regen gobs of HP every round were just awful.
I found it to be faster to acquire the money than to farm the items to craft one.