RPG_Fanatic
Member
This is my hope as well, along with the Vita theme that goes with it.
Operation Abyss: New Tokyo Legacy (Vita) launches on June 9 (USA), June 5 (EU)
- Thread starter Zhao_Yun
- Start date
This is my hope as well, along with the Vita theme that goes with it.
lazyproblems
Member
Looking back over 2014, NISA released a game almost every month from February to September (not counting European releases). Hopefully that means that one of the February announcements is a May/June release for Danganronpa: Another Episode (and the accompanying vita theme!).
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Seda you should have a good time I think. Esp if you are a bit OCD about inventory lol as there is a pretty good number of items to be found in the game.
Ugh, hopefully the English dub isn't too bad.
publicpwnerer
Member
That's incredibly unfortunate. I'm gonna have to skip this one. It's just too jarring for me.
I don't watch anime dubbed, so I refuse to be forced to play a 40+ hour game with dubs.
Your loss. Game seems great and I doubt the VO is going to change the experience at all.
Basileus777
Member
Ugh. Hype deflated.
Why? It's not like this is a super story heavy game or anything.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I think its more some people prefer to not have story scenes ruined by bad VA work. Not with this title in particular but can understand the sentiment.
Its why I got pissed off with Ryu Ga Gotoku Black Panther 2. Since they changed the JP VA for the MC. Totally ruining the character which made me stop playing the game outright. The dude was so Elmer Milktoast it was not even funny.
Infernal Monkey
Member
If dual audio is infeasible due to technical reasons... why even go to the expensive effort of recording an English dub for such a niche title like this in the first place? Unless maybe it was cheaper to do that than license the Japanese VA or something.
Oh well, not too worried.
Oh well, not too worried.
Awesome. If you're going to have to go one way, go English.
lazyproblems
Member
This isn't too bad for me, as I'm one of those people who will often default to the English option unless the VA is just flat out terrible. But I get the disappointment.
As long as it isn't as bad as Conception II, I'll be fine.
As long as it isn't as bad as Conception II, I'll be fine.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
The game is not as voice intensive as Demon Gaze also for those that were wondering.
Kresnik258
Member
I do not mind this at all.
Some of the voice work is actually in battle so they probably need to have dubbed sounds for that since they can't have little text boxes pop up in the middle of the fight translating the word the person just used.
I get that but I have not encountered a dub that bad since the 90's. I think some people believe that it destroys the spirit of the game to have an english dub. It's probably the same people who demand literal translations on games even when it would sound ridiculous or completely destroy the joke. Lately I have been watching some of the Tokusatsu shows and having to get my friend to explain some of the jokes and it's makes it tedious as fuck sometimes.
I'm okay with that.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Was hoping it would be engDubbed, odd to have non engdubbed games on systems in 2015.
cj_iwakura
Member
FYI, this is a remake of Generation Xth: Code Hazard(PC), which there's a fan translation for that was recently released. This does look a lot more streamlined, so there's that.
I usually prefer English voices, but it really pisses me off when the localization is not complete, like Atelier Totori + or Neptunia Rebirth 1 where everything is dubbed in Japanese while almost nothing in English, if localized dub has to be made it has to be complete, if not save money and leave Japanese voices.
Then just leave it the with its original audio, come on, NISA.
Not gonna buy it anymore.
dakkumauji
Member
No big deal to me.
This isn't the sort of game where I care too much about if the original voices were kept or not.
cj_iwakura
Member
I can still get what CJ mentioned. Dual audio wasn't possible, maybe they saw dubbing the game would be cheaper than leaving the japanese audio.
There is actually some speech in battles they probably decided it would be jarring for some people to have untranslated speech in battles. I mean it would annoy the shit out of me. Also only NISA would know but I am betting Sub only games probably sell a lot less than dubbed.
Acquiescence
Member
Word for word. Anime and the English language just don't mix.
I find this hilarious to read in the year 2015. Really close-minded thing to read.
Dracandros
Banned
Let's just hope in the future that the game could be programmed to support it both ways should the budget be available for it.
This is a game is about gameplay in the end (thankfully
). It's not like this game has little difficulty and/or didn't give an option to increase difficulty (seriously EO4 and Etrian Mystery Dungeon...) or are going to really change the translation - now those would make me not buy it (or at least really consider what I wanted out of it).
I just have to be able to successfully preorder it first.
Website is not letting me.
This is a game is about gameplay in the end (thankfully
). It's not like this game has little difficulty and/or didn't give an option to increase difficulty (seriously EO4 and Etrian Mystery Dungeon...) or are going to really change the translation - now those would make me not buy it (or at least really consider what I wanted out of it).I just have to be able to successfully preorder it first.
Website is not letting me.
Tizoc
Member
Gonna have to agree, I played both DR 1 and 2 with Eng. dub and it was great.
I can't believe how many people are skipping this because there won't be dual audio. The lack of an option sucks but to have it be a deal breaker in a video game?
NISA needs all the support in releasing games like this, but if someone refuses to buy a game for lack of a Japanese voice option, they probably didn't care about the game in the first place.
NISA needs all the support in releasing games like this, but if someone refuses to buy a game for lack of a Japanese voice option, they probably didn't care about the game in the first place.
Not really. I have quite a bit of interest in this game after my experience with Demon Gaze and Class of Heroes 2. However, I will not be supportive of their choice of choosing English VA over Japanese VA for a couple reasons:
- I have the same amount of choice as someone who will not purchase a game for being Japanese voices only.
- I'm not fond of supporting deviation from the usual expectations from publishers of games I purchase. Japanese voices have been present in most, if not all, of NISA's releases and I expected no different for this one.
- NISA has terrible VA direction. It doesn't matter if the VA themselves are good if the one directing them for the game isn't.
- The fact that I had to find out from a forum post is appalling.
The last is more personal. I just can't stand NISA's English dubs, at all. They have the choice of selling it English dubbed only. I have the choice of not purchasing it. All a matter of preferences for both parties.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Kind of interested about this game. Is this a really hard dungeon crawler?
I wouldn't say it's "really" hard. It's more difficult compared to Demon Gaze, but that's more because it's based on an older game and is a more traditionally styled dungeon crawler. It's not nearly as difficult as Elminage or the old Wizardry games.
You can kind of increase the difficulty for yourself by filling a gauge as you defeat monsters. The higher level the gauge, the better chance at loot you have, but enemies get more difficult as well.
I prefer to get the games period myself and has been explained they didn't pull an Atlus and release it with only dubs just because. They have encountered a technical problem that is keeping them from offering dual audio. Parakeet was guessing in another thread that it may have to do with this being a remastered collection of older pc games that would not have been coded with the idea of localizing in multiple languages. So yeah companies do shitty things sometimes but seeing that NISA usually releases with both I am guessing they are serious in saying they can't offer it in this case.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Yeah they could have at least released a trailer with the VA or something, I had asked upon reveal if it was engdub or not.
witchedwiz
Member
Weellll at least it's physical in europe as well..
So NISA has a special event next month?
They better announce an Another Episode localization, or else heads are going to roll.
That's... weird? I expect this sort of rubbish from Atlus, but certainly not NISA. Oh well, better than no localization at all.
What other NISA games were dub only anyway? I don't know of any.
Anyway I'm looking forward to this game, I haven't finished Demon Gaze yet but I was quite surprised by it. I've heard so many people dismiss it as a "poor man's Etrian Odyssey with creepy otaku-pandering", but I absolutely despise the map drawing in EO so Demon Gaze definitely wins for me.
Also the Demon Gaze soundtrack is SO GOOD. Hopefully this game's will be similar.
They better announce an Another Episode localization, or else heads are going to roll.
That's... weird? I expect this sort of rubbish from Atlus, but certainly not NISA. Oh well, better than no localization at all.
What other NISA games were dub only anyway? I don't know of any.
Anyway I'm looking forward to this game, I haven't finished Demon Gaze yet but I was quite surprised by it. I've heard so many people dismiss it as a "poor man's Etrian Odyssey with creepy otaku-pandering", but I absolutely despise the map drawing in EO so Demon Gaze definitely wins for me.
Also the Demon Gaze soundtrack is SO GOOD. Hopefully this game's will be similar.
Pandora012
Member
I hope they use some go VAs. I figure once I get used to them it'll be fine.
CrazyArcadia
Member
I would understand and probably share the VA outrage if this was a Visual Novel or a game with lots of spoken text. But in this case, I'm just glad to get another super niche dungeon crawler RPG for the PS Vita. Demon Gaze was amazing (any news on Demon Gaze 2 yet apart from it being in development?)!
If technical difficulties within the programming are the reason for no dual voice tracks... There's not that much NISA could do in that case since they're a publisher, not a programming outlet. Of course, I would've prefered JP only voices, but it's no big deal for me either way. I'll try to save up some cash for the LE and look forward to a new dungeon crawl
Even physical! Awesome year for PS Vita fans/fans of Japanese games on PS Vita, IMO.
Maybe I'm just desensitized - I'm currently replaying Grandia II on Dreamcast, the English dub is almost "so bad it's good" territory at times...
If technical difficulties within the programming are the reason for no dual voice tracks... There's not that much NISA could do in that case since they're a publisher, not a programming outlet. Of course, I would've prefered JP only voices, but it's no big deal for me either way. I'll try to save up some cash for the LE and look forward to a new dungeon crawl
Even physical! Awesome year for PS Vita fans/fans of Japanese games on PS Vita, IMO.Maybe I'm just desensitized - I'm currently replaying Grandia II on Dreamcast, the English dub is almost "so bad it's good" territory at times...
Firestorm ZERO
Member
I understand technical (additional work) or space limitations for non dual-audio. I can tolerate Atlus or Xseed's dubs but I agree with many NISA's dubs are pretty bad. Choosing English voice only vs Japanese voice is strange since Tales and SAO was JP audio only. Maybe it is cheaper to dub or maybe they want a wider audience?
I already have the limited edition JP version in my backlog. And the limited edition is the same as the JP version with the large art book. So I guess I'm going to cancel my pre-order.
I already have the limited edition JP version in my backlog. And the limited edition is the same as the JP version with the large art book. So I guess I'm going to cancel my pre-order.
I do think there are cases where dubbing's a no win prospect, but that doesn't mean ALL anime/games can't get a good dub, and it may be whatever it was that was "undubbable" was obnoxious period.
Anyways I'd hope they don't screw this up or make it unnecessarily obnoxious. Could this also be the first dub-only NISA game? That didn't become dual-audio before it came out anyway?
Nahhh you're wrong. Some Anime are better as English dubbed. lol
NISA is a business selling a product, its not a charity. If NISA "need all the support" they can get than it behooves them to sell a product people want to buy. Nobody, fan of the company or otherwise, is under any obligation to buy a product they dont want. Similarly how much a potential customer "cares about" a game is immaterial if the publisher makes a decision which makes that customer feel that the product is not worth their money. Everyone has a (arguably arbitrary) breaking point when it comes to evaluating whether a purchase is worth it or not. Why should they spend money if they feel theyre getting a subpar experience? NISA made their bed so they have no choice but to lie in it.
Meh, I really hate those debates whenever a game is discovered to be dub only or original voices only.
I find them as pointless and topic-derailing as port begging. Possibly even moreso.
People should just accept that not all Japanese localized games are going to be dual audio. Getting a localization at all is better than nothing.
I find them as pointless and topic-derailing as port begging. Possibly even moreso.
People should just accept that not all Japanese localized games are going to be dual audio. Getting a localization at all is better than nothing.
not even something like hellsing where the show takes place in england and everyone is speaking japanese?
Similar threads
- Locked