daTRUballin
Member
The new Batman movie has always given me the same vibe as Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince in that the dark tone and art direction makes it feel like you're watching a rated R movie even though you're really not.
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Opinion: Nolan and Burton Batman annihilate Reeves Batman
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March Climber
Gold Member
I can understand this perspective. My friends compared it to Blade Runner 2049 and Dune in terms of slow pacing. They also couldn't finish those movies.
Slicker than your average
Banned
Jeremy irons was way better as Alfred.
Romulus
Member
Incredible actor and voice, but terrible casting. He looks more like an older Batman than an Alfred.
Slicker than your average
Banned
I still prefer Affleck s batman where he's old, given up and doesn't give a fuck. He's there to clean up .
KommonSince
Neo Member
All of them are great in their own way.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Burton > All others.
Reeves felt under-engineered/flat, and Nolan’s was over-engineered/boring. The writing in both is atrocious IMO.
Reeves felt under-engineered/flat, and Nolan’s was over-engineered/boring. The writing in both is atrocious IMO.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Here's one of the main reasons it's such a bad take on Batman.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Are you a fan of the character in general? Because I can't see how anyone who's a big fan of Batman could say this.
And that's not a criticism of you, by the way. Perfectly okay to not be a big fan of Batman!
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Badlucktroll
Member
I really hope The Batman 2 uses Mr Freeze as a villian, and it has a big sympathetic epic Freeze and Nora story
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Never read the comics, grew up on the old tv show.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
True. I think its all about how young you were and which specific take on Batman was your first that leaves the most important impression.
Like, I saw 89 in the theater when I was 9. That and Keaton will always the best Batman to me (though Pattinson comes close; I think Bale does the best Wayne)
Hugare
Gold Member
Reeves Batman was too messy: way too much time spent with the Falcone/Catwoman substory. Movie didnt have any right being that long.
Pattison did a good job as Batman but a terrible Bruce Wayne. Sure he is damaged and etc., but he acted like a teenager most of the time, instead of a grown man.
Movie also had this very dark/serious tone, but didnt seem earned. Nolan Batman was also serious, but it had just the right amount of levity to not make it a parody of itself.
Pattison did a good job as Batman but a terrible Bruce Wayne. Sure he is damaged and etc., but he acted like a teenager most of the time, instead of a grown man.
Movie also had this very dark/serious tone, but didnt seem earned. Nolan Batman was also serious, but it had just the right amount of levity to not make it a parody of itself.
Trunx81
Member
I tried to watch it this weekend because of this thread. Pattison narrating everything already bored me out a bit, but him snapping at Alfred was too much. Maybe I´ll give it another try one day, but till then it will remain unwatched.
Best Batmans are, imho, Batman Begins and Burtons first BATMAN. Both highly influential. The later for every comic book movie that came afterward, finally taking Superheroes serious. The former for inspiring the Arrow-Verse on CW (with it´s highs and lows).
FullMetalx117
Member
I think this is a fact.
I think the Nolan Batman and Raimi Spiderman are directly responsible for the run of superhero movies through the 2010s. Nolan was basically Oppenheimer, he started a chain reaction with superhero movies that caused them to destroy themselves.
I think the Nolan Batman and Raimi Spiderman are directly responsible for the run of superhero movies through the 2010s. Nolan was basically Oppenheimer, he started a chain reaction with superhero movies that caused them to destroy themselves.
March Climber
Gold Member
If you mean his perspective on Nolan Batman I kind of agree. I wouldn’t say the writing is atrocious(Dark Knight’s writing was pretty good) but that trilogy is lacking…something. Nolan Batman decided to go for a way more grounded perspective but by doing so it completely lost the noir detective feel of the 90s cartoon, and it lost the fantastical nature of the Burton films and the 90s cartoon as well.
The movies also weirdly felt like they underused Bale’s acting talents by relying way too much on the villain(s) and supporting cast instead. I came away from those movies thinking how great the performances were of Scarecrow, Alfred, Gordon, Joker, Harvey Dent, and Bane way more than I did of Batman himself.
The only ones I don’t count are Ras Al Ghul because he was assumed dead for a large chunk of the first movie, Catwoman because her performance sucked, and Robin because he felt forced into the plot.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
For fighting. Synder, but his stories are crap for Batman and Bruce development Burton and Nolan’s. But combat wise they are shit.
Best overall Batman is the animated series Batman. You know it is true.
Best combat best voiced Batman RIP Kevin Conroy.
Also WB make better animated versions of Batman than the movie counterparts.
I’m too burnt out on superhero movies to want to watch the Reeves Batman.
Best overall Batman is the animated series Batman. You know it is true.
Best combat best voiced Batman RIP Kevin Conroy.
Also WB make better animated versions of Batman than the movie counterparts.
I’m too burnt out on superhero movies to want to watch the Reeves Batman.
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I thought the movie was really good when it was the first half all about the riddler and who was he and what was teh conspiracy at the police and things like that. But when it devolved into the stadium scene with the flooding and stuff i lost all interest.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I love Burton/Keaton Batman. That was my childhood. I can't unbias myself from that. I haven't watched The Batman. I'm not spending 3 hours of my life on a superhero movie that isn't a huge team up.
PrimetimeKnight
Member
Best Batman fight scene by far in any of the movies. I still get a chubby when I rewatch it.