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Xenon

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Whether Oprah Winfrey was turned away from a bit of after-hours shopping in Paris because of a racist employee or a special event, news of the confrontation outside a luxury store has evoked empathy and anger from many American minorities who say they are routinely treated poorly -- and sometimes with outright suspicion -- by sales staffs in this country.

The Winfrey case has sparked discussion of what many see as a chronic problem for minorities -- particularly in high-end stores -- no matter how educated, wealthy or accomplished the customer.

''The presumption in America is that if you have the wealth, you'll get equality -- but where's Oprah's equality?'' asked Bruce D. Haynes, a sociologist at the University of California-Davis.

The incident occurred when Winfrey stopped by Hermes in Paris on June 14 to buy a watch minutes after the boutique closed. Though she and three friends said they saw shoppers inside, neither a sales clerk nor manager would let them in.

Winfrey's friend, Gayle King, who was there, told "Entertainment Tonight," ''Oprah describes it as 'one of the most humiliating moments of her life.''' Harpo says Winfrey plans to discuss the incident in the context of race relations on her show this fall.

Hermes said in a statement it ''regrets not having been able to welcome'' Winfrey to the store, but that ''a private public relations event was being prepared inside.''

'Clearly bigoted'



Many companies fail to grasp that big-spending customers now come from every background imaginable, said Luke Visconti, co-founder of DiversityInc, a New Jersey-based business that advises companies on diversity issues.

Hermes, in its treatment of Winfrey and its response, ''blew it to a degree that's hard to imagine,'' he said. ''It's clearly bigoted. ... Think about what this did to their business. Think about all those people who have been oppressed [by this kind of behavior] who are going to be sympathetic to Oprah and not go back there.''

Emil Wilbiken, former editor of Vibe magazine, said it's not uncommon for black celebrities to receive poor treatment at high-end stores. Sean ''P. Diddy'' Combs has devised a tactic to avoid poor treatment, he said.

''Puffy sends his people ahead to stores and shuts them down so he can shop privately, so this kind of thing doesn't happen,'' Wilbiken said. AP


You go girl, stand up for all those oppressed people who have been turned away from a store that is closed!
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
It's Oprah(and stars often get that bullshit after the store closes shopping treatment),but I still don't give a f*ck.
 

LakeEarth

Member
What? The store was closed. If they let someone in a second earlier than maybe that'd be a problem, but the store was closed. When you close a store with customers still in it, you can't just kick them out, you gotta wait for them to finish and get the hell out and lock the door.
 
''The presumption in America is that if you have the wealth, you'll get equality -- but where's Oprah's equality?'' asked Bruce D. Haynes, a sociologist at the University of California-Davis.

The State of Paris ... is that right next to Athens Texas?

Hermes said in a statement it ''regrets not having been able to welcome'' Winfrey to the store, but that ''a private public relations event was being prepared inside.''

Damn them! damn them all to hell ... for not letting Oprah into the store while they're holding a private event. It's Oprah!!!111
 

dem

Member
I had this happen to me last friday at a gas station.

I was all waiting for my FULL SERVICE... then I got pissed off and marched up to the door to tell the wanker to fill my tank.... only to find it was locked.

Oh the shame
 

Sriram

Member
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"Is it coz I is black!?"
 
dem said:
I had this happen to me last friday at a gas station.

I was all waiting for my FULL SERVICE... then I got pissed off and marched up to the door to tell the wanker to fill my tank.... only to find it was locked.

Oh the shame

You tell em' man. It's the worst crime you can do to another, that is to spit on their very dignity. I remember once I went shopping, and the grocers wouldn't carry my bags home. No good slackers, all of them!
 
Fatghost28 said:
If this is true, Oprah is fucking retarded.

No fucking kidding! The store was CLOSED. The employees have lives. They don't want to stick around any longer after the damn thing is scheduled to close.
 

Outlaw

Banned
LakeEarth said:
What? The store was closed. If they let someone in a second earlier than maybe that'd be a problem, but the store was closed. When you close a store with customers still in it, you can't just kick them out, you gotta wait for them to finish and get the hell out and lock the door.

Oh yes you can.....I do it all the time! its awesome cause they get mad :lol :lol :lol
 
If that was my store, I would have let her in. Business 101 dictates that if a high-caliber public figure or celebrity wants to shop at your store, you let him/her in regardless of store hours, as it would only boost the notoriety of your business, resulting in more cash flow.

I think most stars understand and expect this, which probably explains why Oprah is so surprised and confused.
 
NintendosBooger said:
If that was my store, I would have let her in. Business 101 dictates that if a high-caliber public figure or celebrity wants to shop at your store, you let him/her in, as it would only boost the notoriety of your business, resulting in more cash flow.

I think most stars understand and expect this, which probably explains why Oprah is so surprised and confused.

Aww, she wasn't pampered for being special. Boo fucking hoo. I weep for her misfortune.
 
NintendosBooger said:
If that was my store, I would have let her in. Business 101 dictates that if a high-caliber public figure or celebrity wants to shop at your store, you let him/her in regardless of store hours, as it would only boost the notoriety of your business, resulting in more cash flow.

I think most stars understand and expect this, which probably explains why Oprah is so surprised and confused.

Are you assuming the French knows Oprah as well as Americans? Can you name me the most famous French talk show host?
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Finally, the French are good for something.

And - yeah! - fuck Oprah!

I find it kind of sickening that Oprah is trying to hijack this situation to spin this as racism in America, even though it did not take place in America.

If that bitch wants to talk about racism in America, how about citing something that happened to her in America, or better yet, find some REAL black people that know what racism is about.

Being turned away from a store in FRANCE after CLOSING HOURS does not equal racism in America.
 
ManDudeChild said:
Aww, she wasn't pampered for being special. Boo fucking hoo. I weep for her misfortune.

You make it sound like it's all take & receive from Oprah's end. The store could have benefitted from her presence. Fuck, if it was my shop, I would have unlocked the door, taken a dozen photos from different angles, and have them plastered all over the wall the next day. What if she liked what I offered? She would have probably made regular trips, and even have her publicist mention my store's name as one of "her favorites." Then again, maybe not, but I've got nothing to lose from the "gamble."
 

Fatghost

Gas Guzzler
NintendosBooger said:
If that was my store, I would have let her in. Business 101 dictates that if a high-caliber public figure or celebrity wants to shop at your store, you let him/her in regardless of store hours, as it would only boost the notoriety of your business, resulting in more cash flow.

I think most stars understand and expect this, which probably explains why Oprah is so surprised and confused.


If it was my store, I wouldn't have let her in. Psychology 101 dictates that if you show people that they aren't good enough for your product, they want it more.
 
NintendosBooger said:
You make it sound like it's all take & receive from Oprah's end. The store could have benefitted from her presence. Fuck, if it was my shop, I would have unlocked the door, taken a dozen photos from different angles, and have them plastered all over the wall the next day. What if she liked what I offered? She would have probably made regular trips, and even have her publicist mention my store's name as one of "her favorites." Then again, maybe not, but I've got nothing to lose from the "gamble."

Isn't it though? Look at how it's being made into a race thing, when it clearly was NOT. I'm sure the store would have let her in if it was reasonable. But a private PR thing. No, that's not reasonable. Trying to turn it into a race thing (then if the article's correct eventually using it as a focal point for a race thing on her fembot show) is beyond stupid... moreso than even when she did Jury Duty.
 
Fatghost28 said:
If it was my store, I wouldn't have let her in. Psychology 101 dictates that if you show people that they aren't good enough for your product, they want it more.

Oh, I'm sure all of the manicure salons, restaurants, and jewelry shops she visits regularly have turned her down. :lol
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
NintendosBooger said:
Who cares about the French?
More accurately, who cares about what you would do if it was your store?

The store was closed. They didn't let her in. It's pretty simple, but Oprah decided that there was something more sinister at work here besides operating hours...something RACIST.
 
Willco said:
The story place in France, idiot.

Which as I alluded to in my first reply, makes the ENTIRE article confusing as hell.

Whether Oprah Winfrey was turned away from a bit of after-hours shopping in Paris because of a racist employee or a special event, news of the confrontation outside a luxury store has evoked empathy and anger from many American minorities who say they are routinely treated poorly -- and sometimes with outright suspicion -- by sales staffs in this country.

What?

''The presumption in America is that if you have the wealth, you'll get equality -- but where's Oprah's equality?'' asked Bruce D. Haynes, a sociologist at the University of California-Davis.

The incident occurred when Winfrey stopped by Hermes in Paris on June 14 to buy a watch minutes after the boutique closed. Though she and three friends said they saw shoppers inside, neither a sales clerk nor manager would let them in.

The hell?
 
Shogmaster said:
Oh I don't know... Maybe because this happend in Paris? You know, as in Paris France?

It was in response to your challenge of naming some French celebrities. I don’t follow the pop culture in France, but then again…I don’t have to. I’m American.

Willco said:
The story place in France, idiot.

Huh? :lol
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
NintendosBooger said:
You make it sound like it's all take & receive from Oprah's end. The store could have benefitted from her presence. Fuck, if it was my shop, I would have unlocked the door, taken a dozen photos from different angles, and have them plastered all over the wall the next day. What if she liked what I offered? She would have probably made regular trips, and even have her publicist mention my store's name as one of "her favorites." Then again, maybe not, but I've got nothing to lose from the "gamble."

So they should have cancelled the private event that was already in the process of being set up for?

F*ck that.... and f*ck Oprah. I'm tired of hearing rich people whine about not getting some extra perk they normally get.

human5892 said:
More accurately, who cares about what you would do if it was your store?

The store was closed. They didn't let her in. It's pretty simple, but Oprah decided that there was something more sinister at work here besides operating hours...something RACIST.

Yeah and I just read she's going to make the focus of one of her future shows... again.. f*ck Oprah.
 
human5892 said:
More accurately, who cares about what you would do if it was your store?

The store was closed. They didn't let her in. It's pretty simple, but Oprah decided that there was something more sinister at work here besides operating hours...something RACIST.

That's a good point. There's nothing presented in the article to suspect that the incident was racially motivated, and it was the store owner's/employee's choice to do whatever was best for the business. All I'm saying is that I would have handled the situation differently.
 
NintendosBooger said:
It was in response to your challenge of naming some French celebrities. I don’t follow the pop culture in France, but then again…I don’t have to. I’m American.

My point is that it's entirely possible (and quite probable) that the folks running that store didn't know who the hell Oprah was since they don't watch American television.... Being French and all.....
 
NintendosBooger said:
It was in response to your challenge of naming some French celebrities. I don’t follow the pop culture in France, but then again…I don’t have to. I’m American.



Huh? :lol

But they have to know your pop culture? Sure someone like me whose Canadian would be expected to know it, what with you guys being right next door, but common. Do you even realize how arrogant your comment is?
 
Shogmaster said:
My point is that it's entirely possible (and quite probable) that the folks running that store didn't know who the hell Oprah was.

You're right. Maybe I'm overestimating Oprah's popularity. I assume she's a well-known celebrity in all parts and corners of the globe (like MJ).
 
Winfrey's friend, Gayle King, who was there, told "Entertainment Tonight," ''Oprah describes it as 'one of the most humiliating moments of her life.'''

:lol

What the fuck? One of the most humiliating moments of her life was not making it to a store on time before it closed? They both need to get a grip on reality.
 

LakeEarth

Member
This is kinda like when Posh and Beckham got refused special treatment when they went shopping in the US. I bet the French shopkeepers didn't even know who Oprah was.

EDIT - Late, :lol
 
heavy liquid said:
:lol

What the fuck? One of the most humiliating moments of her life was not making it to a store on time before it closed? They both need to get a grip on reality.

I don't know how I didn't pick up on that comment, but considering Oprah was sexually abused as a child, and delivered a stillborn at age 14, that comment about it being one of the most humiliating moments was THE hyperbole. That's right, the example from which the very word hyperbole was born.

If anyone wants more ammo for slamming purposes on why this is so stupid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
heavy liquid said:
What the fuck? One of the most humiliating moments of her life was not making it to a store on time before it closed? They both need to get a grip on reality.
Oprah: I can't believe they wouldn't let me in. THIS IS THE MOST HUMILIATING MOMENT OF MY LIFE.

King: Even worse than that time I pulled your shirt off in that restaur--

Oprah: THIS IS WORSE
 

Jonk

Member
The store was CLOSED. PERIOD.

I think Oprah can understand that concept. I dont care if you are the f'ing president wanting to buy a belt. The rules apply to all and all people. I dont care. It would be called favoritism if otherwise and that there would have caused a problem.

Pulling the goddamn race card is pathetic.
 

Minotauro

Finds Purchase on Dog Nutz
Maybe I'm misreading the article (it's written very poorly) but where is it saying that Oprah is alleging racism? As far as I can tell, it's just some community college-level sociologist who's trying to hijack the situation for his own agenda. I'm no fan of Oprah but I think she's being unfairly slighted.


Also, what the fuck is a "private public relations event"?
 
Minotauro said:
Maybe I'm misreading the article (it's written very poorly) but where is it saying that Oprah is alleging racism? As far as I can tell, it's just some community college-level sociologist who's trying to hijack the situation for his own agenda. I'm no fan of Oprah but I think she's being unfairly slighted.


Also, what the fuck is a "private public relations event"?


Winfrey's friend, Gayle King, who was there, told "Entertainment Tonight," ''Oprah describes it as 'one of the most humiliating moments of her life.''' Harpo says Winfrey plans to discuss the incident in the context of race relations on her show this fall.

Come again?
 

Matlock

Banned
But, guys! Oprah says the doorman mentioned trying to keep North Africans out! And there were still customers in there according to her!

AND STORES ARE EXPECTED TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN AFTER CLOSING FOR CELEBS!
 

maynerd

Banned
Shogmaster said:
Are you assuming the French knows Oprah as well as Americans? Can you name me the most famous French talk show host?

I'm sure i'm messing up the spelling Bernard Pivot...
 

Xenon

Member
Maybe I'm misreading the article (it's written very poorly) but where is it saying that Oprah is alleging racism? As far as I can tell, it's just some community college-level sociologist who's trying to hijack the situation for his own agenda. I'm no fan of Oprah but I think she's being unfairly slighted.


I think her first show this upcoming season is going to address this horrible event.

Personally I think it should be called "oprah's brush with normalcy"
 

cvxfreak

Member
I'm pretty sure Oprah wouldn't be this shortsighted - it's just spelling for trouble. The article prrobably missed something, like the store letting others in before her. The store also admitted that they regret not letting her in, although I don't know what the hell a "private public relations event" is other than what I'm guessing at.
 
CVXFREAK said:
I'm pretty sure Oprah wouldn't be this shortsighted - it's just spelling for trouble. The article prrobably missed something, like the store letting others in before her. The store also admitted that they regret not letting her in.

The article said it was a private PR event, and it was in Paris, FRANCE. As others have said, the most likely scenario is that they didn't know who she was and (if they did) they had an event set up.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
CVXFREAK said:
I'm pretty sure Oprah wouldn't be this shortsighted - it's just spelling for trouble. The article prrobably missed something, like the store letting others in before her. The store also admitted that they regret not letting her in, although I don't know what the hell a "private public relations event" is other than what I'm guessing at.

Damage Control for Oprah.... GAF has hit a new low.
 

Minotauro

Finds Purchase on Dog Nutz
ManDudeChild said:
Come again?

Ah, I stand corrected. Still, the majority of that sentiment in the article came from outside sources.

EDIT: Also, it doesn't even clarify who or what Harpo is. I know it's her production company but that's not really clear from the article.
 
Winfrey has never married, but has lived with her partner Steadman Graham for nearly 20 years. She recently told audiences that she was going to reveal a deep dark secret -- that she and Steadman have a daughter. She even used this as the tease for an upcoming episode. It turns out that this "daughter" is her cocker spaniel.

from wikipedia... wtf?
 

Zaptruder

Banned
Well, regardless of what actually occurred there, it's pretty clear Hermes dropped the ball on handling this one. It's probably become a bit of a public relations disaster as thousands of sympathetic clients boycott their goods.

But if really was an earnest case of fair treatment (i.e. doesn't matter who you are, you're not coming in the store when I'm trying to close it)... then Hermes should bitch right back and act all indignant at Oprah playing the race card. Something along the lines of, "It's because we act independently of a person's race or status that Ms Oprah was denied late entry into our paris store."
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Oprah really must have forgotten where she came from. Money has gotten to her head and made it the size of a medicine ball.

Cyndi Lauper was right, "Money Changes Everything"
 

Brofist

Member
NintendosBooger said:
It was in response to your challenge of naming some French celebrities. I don’t follow the pop culture in France, but then again…I don’t have to. I’m American.

But the French are all lining up for Oprah's autograph, because everyone in other countries worships American celebrities right?

I hate this almighty attitude many Americans have. You know everything about us, but we're Americans, we don't have to know shit about you. Whatever, if being an elitist ass is what floats your boat have at it.
 

Xenon

Member
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Oprah-s-Racial-Incident-already-cost-Hermes-6000-3774.shtml

Gayle King, the woman who was escorting Oprah Winfrey's on her shopping session in Paris, confessed to ET magazine that Oprah said it was "one of the most humiliating moments of her life".

Last week Oprah Winfrey wanted to shop from designer bag store Hermes, but was turned away by shop assistants, who argued that they had been "having problems with North Africans".

"It was almost like a scene out of Crash". "We joke about it being Oprah's Crash moment, but it wasn't a joke."

"I saw it, and it was really, really very bad," she said. "Oprah describes it as one of the most humiliating moments of her life."

King also said that that Winfrey has canceled an order for a Birkin bag. Birkin is the handmade bag that Hermes is famous for, which costs $6000.


=\ I guess there is more to the story. But 6000 dollars for a fucking purse! WTF
 
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