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[The Verge] Microsoft is now in a handheld gaming PC race
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FoxMcChief
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Says the Starfield fangirl.Microsoft fanboys are.....something
feynoob
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Crayon
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Most people to this day haven't noticed that steam is a platform of it's own. Doesn't matter if it's on windows or linux. The games are built against the windows api, but that's nothing more than a slow-moving target for proton to keep up with.
I'm looking forward to arm translation integrated into steam. Then it's on like donkey kong.
I'm looking forward to arm translation integrated into steam. Then it's on like donkey kong.
DaGwaphics
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I'm surprised they haven't announced some kind of additive front-end for Windows that can be turned on for these devices. If they allow another OS to get popular here, it might be something that spreads out to desktop gaming PCs etc.
Maybe this will give them the kick they need to get serious about that.
Maybe this will give them the kick they need to get serious about that.
FullMetalx117
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Xbox Cloud gaming on the steam deck is neat, I have to admit. Have played through most of Gears 2 on it
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I will probably be on board with the next steam deck.
Sleepwalker
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The bottom
darrylgorn
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Yeah, that super lucrative, handheld PC gaming market.
I have a steam deck and love using it, but let's not be naive. There isn't much pie to eat here when Switch is devouring 90% of it.
I have a steam deck and love using it, but let's not be naive. There isn't much pie to eat here when Switch is devouring 90% of it.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Oh, well that's great news - they've already been there for the better part of a decade.
DenchDeckard
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Well until steam os can natively launch those then it's not competing with windows.
How do you launch them on steam deck? Duel boot into windows?
When you say "natively" how do you work around it?
And why so abrasive lol calm down
Topher
Topher
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Well until steam os can natively launch those then it's not competing with windows.
How do you launch them on steam deck? Duel boot into windows?
When you say "natively" how do you work around it?
And why so abrasive lol calm down
Some of them can't be launched at all, I don't think, but some can using tools such as heroic launcher.
Heroic Games Launcher
An Open Source Epic, GOG and Amazon Prime Games Launcher
Steam Deck is already competing with Windows handheld such as Rog Ally so how can you say they cannot?
And there was nothing abrasive about my question
DenchDeckard
. It was simply a question. Don't be so defensive.
DenchDeckard
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Some of them can't be launched at all, I don't think, but some can using tools such as heroic launcher.
Heroic Games Launcher
An Open Source Epic, GOG and Amazon Prime Games Launcherheroicgameslauncher.com
Steam Deck is already competing with Windows handheld such as Rog Ally so how can you say they cannot?
And there was nothing abrasive about my question
If there is a legit way for me to launch stuff like the Xbox app then I'm all in. Not being defensive here. I love steam, I'm a 19 year vet day one Steam user, but I do use other launchers with My ROG Ally and sold my steam deck as I couldnt launch other launchers easily. If MS makes a gamepass launcher for steam that would be great.
TVexperto
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Remember this from one year ago?
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www.theverge.com
Nothing happened..this would have been cool
Microsoft is experimenting with a Windows gaming handheld mode for Steam Deck-like devices
Microsoft employees are looking at optimizing Windows
www.theverge.com
Nothing happened..this would have been cool
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Topher
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VolticArchangel
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Valve, once again on the way to save pc gaming, even if the marketshare is less than 5%.
Microsoft or Apple (lesser evil, but still closed market garbage that shouldn't exist as the ONLY pc space mainstream) shouldn't own the mainstream biggest market, for our own good. They can exist as options and it's going to take a while, even decades for Linux to catcup Windows/MacOS/iOS numbers, but every bit of % increase is worth the effort.
Always remember...
en.m.wikipedia.org
Microsoft or Apple (lesser evil, but still closed market garbage that shouldn't exist as the ONLY pc space mainstream) shouldn't own the mainstream biggest market, for our own good. They can exist as options and it's going to take a while, even decades for Linux to catcup Windows/MacOS/iOS numbers, but every bit of % increase is worth the effort.
Always remember...
Embrace, extend, and extinguish - Wikipedia
Topher
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I doubt we will ever see the Xbox app launch on Linux since it is using UWP, as are the games. But any normal Windows app can theoretically launch on Linux devices using the WINE based technology that makes any of this possible.
But as I said above, for the vast majority, Steam is all that is needed.
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WhamBamThankYouMaam
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Windows has never worked on handhelds.
DenchDeckard
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I think Steam is great and probably will work for most. But the beauty of PC is openness and choice. No walled gardens etc. I don't think I will be someone who reduces my options for an OS and I love steam. Each to their own though.
I don't want PC gaming to become like a console, so I will continue to use the OS that gives me the most options. Just my personal opinion.
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Fess
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Yeah what’s their problem? Can’t even start a Gamepass game without wishing I sat at a desktop PC. No wonder everybody just use Steam and skip every other launcher, it’s the only one with a controller UI.
And Microsoft already have a Xbox UI, so why not just tweak that into a Windows OS version focused on the TV experience and make it easy to flip through launchers like a 360 blades UI? Make it possible to boot into normal desktop mode for file access like how Valve does it on Steam Deck. It’s what everybody wants. But Microsoft just sit on their laurels counting money.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Heroic Launcher or Lutris, except Xbox app that doesn't work on those. Or dual boot windows with "Clover".
GitHub - ryanrudolfoba/SteamDeck-Clover-dualboot: Script to install Clover - a graphical boot manager for the Steam Deck.
Script to install Clover - a graphical boot manager for the Steam Deck. - ryanrudolfoba/SteamDeck-Clover-dualboot
github.com
It works well enough on Deck.
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WhamBamThankYouMaam
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That is quite far from ”good”, ”pleasant” or ”optimal”.Heroic Launcher or Lutris, except Xbox app that doesn't work on those. Or dual boot windows with "Clover".
GitHub - ryanrudolfoba/SteamDeck-Clover-dualboot: Script to install Clover - a graphical boot manager for the Steam Deck.
Script to install Clover - a graphical boot manager for the Steam Deck. - ryanrudolfoba/SteamDeck-Clover-dualboot
It works well enough on Deck.
Cyberpunkd
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I can tell you the Steam Deck is probably one of the greatest tech products of the last decade. It is god's gift to busy people with families or people that never would have touched PC gaming. My wife is right now playing Witcher 1 on the Deck, she would have never touched it otherwise. I just bought tons of Lego games from 15€ Humble Bundle, bought Steam key for MLP for my daughter for 4€.
ReBurn
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Hopefully this pushes Microsoft to create a good non-desktop experience for Windows. They really need a good non-kbm experience that allows for easy touch screen or controller navigation. And more easily allows you to turn off features you don't use. Something thing like profiles that configure the system based on whether you're doing gaming, productivity, development, etc. As more people move away from traditional laptops and desktops for computing tasks Microsoft risks Windows becoming something people just use at work.
MisterXDTV
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This will end up like their home console race.....
LOL
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