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[TAJ]

How long until we're all required to wear leader loyalty badges?

 

[ErnieMcCracken]

Doesn't this go against West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/319/624

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion, or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us. [n19]

We think the action of the local authorities in compelling the flag salute and pledge transcends constitutional limitations on their power, and invades the sphere of intellect and spirit which it is the purpose of the First Amendment to our Constitution to reserve from all official control.

And this was before the phrase "Under God" was added by Eisenhower in 1954.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

You're way overthinking this. Of the kids who don't want to stand, for most of them it's out of sheer laziness.

 

[rjinaz]

You're way overthinking this. Of the kids who don't want to stand, for most of them it's out of sheer laziness.

Even if that's the case, who cares? If they want to sit during the anthem and not pay honor to the flag, it means they likely don't understand or care enough to honor the flag anyway.

So let's force them, the American way.

 

[FormallyMegadrive]

You're way overthinking this. Of the kids who don't want to stand, for most of them it's out of sheer laziness.

Fucking millennials am I right

Spoiler

no

 

[loaf of bread]

All hail freedom

 

[LOLDSFAN]

Fucking millennials am I right

Spoiler

no

Not really important to the discussion, but these kids are considered Generation Z.

 

[DragonSworne]

Not really important to the discussion, but these kids are considered Generation Z.

Can there really be a generation worse than the millennials? Hard to believe.

 

[Vicetrailia]

I thought Kaep's initial protest was kind of silly, but the absolutely ridiculous response it's gotten from conservatives and police apologists has given the gesture WAY more symbolic significance than it had before all of this. It's shocking how they played right into the hands of the very individuals whose agenda they claim to want to counter.

Indeed. It was proof that it is exactly the right protest to engage in.

 

[Cyan]

Looks like there was a response:

http://www.winknews.com/2016/09/15/lely-principal-regrets-wording-of-anthem-message/

This... actually sounds kind of plausible? At first blush, the initial message absolutely sounds like a response to Kaep's protest. On a second reading, there's a part where he talks about having respect (for the players and the people playing the anthem), and doesn't mention the military. Respect for our troops/our vets/our boys out there shedding blood in our defense has been a key ingredient in nearly every objection to Kaep that I've seen--almost the key ingredient. That the principal didn't mention it makes his explanation and the context he offers here seem actually quite possible.