ReturnOfTheRAT
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Is my theory coming true....who is the original?
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Orphan Black - new Sci-Fi thriller - Saturdays on BBC America
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THOSE SPOILERS IN THE PREVIEWS.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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No previews since week 1 for me. Too spoilerific and AV Club agreed. The commercials weren't any better either.
I have an issue with Sarah and Helena being twins. For the 9 episodes so far, Helena has been the one going on about a connection. They've interacted multiple times, and curiosity is the main response from Sarah. I never picked up on anything deeper from her.
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Sarah mentioned tonight that she see herself in Helena, but I take that as a broader, we're clones, lookalike kind of thing.
I have an issue with Sarah and Helena being twins. For the 9 episodes so far, Helena has been the one going on about a connection. They've interacted multiple times, and curiosity is the main response from Sarah. I never picked up on anything deeper from her.
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Sarah mentioned tonight that she see herself in Helena, but I take that as a broader, we're clones, lookalike kind of thing.
technically it can mean that either of them is.
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Helena asked her if she felt a connection and I think Sarah didn't respond. I think she did feel something.
Also, just because they are twins doesn't mean they have to have a connection.
Mind blown.
Cornballer
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ReturnOfTheRAT
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So the mystery woman in the skyscraper is someone incapable of having children and was in need of a donor.
You don't think the hesitation was nothing more than, Helena is crazy, I can't bring myself to even indulge her?
I've read stuff before that was researched to show twins have some kind of mental connection, ESP or telepathy, something normal blood siblings dont have.
Locking Helena in the trunk was ice cold 
The music during the intervention's conclusion amused me greatly.
Overall very happy with the show. It's just fun. Says something about a show when a simple hug feels earned. It was predictable, yet uneasy, yet cathartic and above all else a testament to the work Maslany is putting in.
This definitely has the feel of a show that will have a much larger fanbase down the road.
And now, the Arrested Development marathon continues!
The music during the intervention's conclusion amused me greatly.
Overall very happy with the show. It's just fun. Says something about a show when a simple hug feels earned. It was predictable, yet uneasy, yet cathartic and above all else a testament to the work Maslany is putting in.
This definitely has the feel of a show that will have a much larger fanbase down the road.
And now, the Arrested Development marathon continues!
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holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
whole bunch of crazy awesome stuff
best moment was Alison going "because you BLEEEWW" or whatever she said. I couldn't stop laughing. That scene was perfect.
also it was funny how Sarah and Cosima suddenly had hoarse voices a couple scenes after Helena was screaming at the top of her lungs
whole bunch of crazy awesome stuff
best moment was Alison going "because you BLEEEWW" or whatever she said. I couldn't stop laughing. That scene was perfect.
also it was funny how Sarah and Cosima suddenly had hoarse voices a couple scenes after Helena was screaming at the top of her lungs
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Yep, I bet they were doing all they could to restore her voice. Breaks the illusion just a bit.
Battle Born
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It was a great episode and there are some good gifs in the official tumblr. I think the mysterious woman is obviously Tatiana and since she appears to be the mastermind of the organisation she could be the true original. She could have a disease and each of the clones have been experimented with to discover a cure. I think it's also safe to assume that these experiments were successful with Sarah and Helena because Kira has an enhanced regenerative capacity.
Oo, I like this theory.
Cornballer
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Wow, that went in an unexpected direction. Roll on Orphan Black, you so crazy/awesome.
- Promo for the season finale *spoilers, seriously - tag any discussion*
- Promo for the season finale *spoilers, seriously - tag any discussion*
Tokubetsu
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Could totally see Kira being the end goal as well. Perfection through imperfect variables.
Holy shit if true. If this is the ending, then season 2 better be fucking amazing.
Angelus Errare
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The woman in the tower/reflection is their "mother" who is the original. As in her DNA was used to make all the girls. Only question is now is for what purpose. Most likely Kira's ability to regenerate like Wolverine.
bobbychalkers
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Fuck this show is amazing, curveballs left and right keeping me at the edge of my seat.
Damn, I love this show.
I want an Alison/Felix spin-off where they cause chaos in suburbia. Love those two together.
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I want an Alison/Felix spin-off where they cause chaos in suburbia. Love those two together.
Preview spoilers
The season finale looks insane. The scene with Cosima coughing up blood makes me wonder if they're going to kill off one of the clones in the finale. Alison is probably the most expendable as her plot is kinda secondary to the central mystery, but I have a feeling Cosima might be getting the axe.
Freezasaurus
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This was my thought as well. Can't wait for next week.
Speculation regarding the "purpose" of the clones: (no preview spoilers, only using stuff from aired eps).
Cosima thought all the clones were identical. This turned out not to be the case, as each clone has a segment of spurious DNA that acts as an identifier. Since the rest of the genotype is the same, the "experiment" still seems to be an extreme case of nature vs. nurture. Behavioral researchers go nuts looking for identical twins separated at birth. The experiment gets a lot "cleaner" when you can have a much larger sample size while minimizing interfering variables.
Sarah and Helena are the key exception. Could the egg have naturally split? Otherwise, why would a group doing such a carefully planned, long-term experiment decide to randomly implant one woman with twins? It's possible, as Alison said her mother used in vitro, but this new woman said she was hired as a surrogate.
Sarah and Helena could be modified even more; do we know if Sarah gave Cosima her own sample? As Sarah seems to be the only one capable of reproduction, could she be the key sample and all the other clones an elaborate control group? Was Kira planned at all by the researchers? What the hell was on that X-ray? How old is the mystery woman (as that would simplify her speculation)?
Why is there only one episode left this season?
Cosima thought all the clones were identical. This turned out not to be the case, as each clone has a segment of spurious DNA that acts as an identifier. Since the rest of the genotype is the same, the "experiment" still seems to be an extreme case of nature vs. nurture. Behavioral researchers go nuts looking for identical twins separated at birth. The experiment gets a lot "cleaner" when you can have a much larger sample size while minimizing interfering variables.
Sarah and Helena are the key exception. Could the egg have naturally split? Otherwise, why would a group doing such a carefully planned, long-term experiment decide to randomly implant one woman with twins? It's possible, as Alison said her mother used in vitro, but this new woman said she was hired as a surrogate.
Sarah and Helena could be modified even more; do we know if Sarah gave Cosima her own sample? As Sarah seems to be the only one capable of reproduction, could she be the key sample and all the other clones an elaborate control group? Was Kira planned at all by the researchers? What the hell was on that X-ray? How old is the mystery woman (as that would simplify her speculation)?
Why is there only one episode left this season?
Cornballer
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IISANDERII
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Just realized that Maslany literally translates to 'other-girl'
from Hungarian.
That is why I stopped watching those after the first one for episode 2 lol...damn,just one more episode left...Space up here in Canada are showing all 9 episodes back to back next Saturday before the season finale...
Cornballer
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yeah they have to work on that for S2. Mad Men's are basically pointless. And these previews tell way too much.
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I need a YouTube clip of Allison telling off that neighbor. She put a lot of emotion behind it, and it was a really great moment.
Mattlikewhoa
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I'd pay to see this happen!
I couldn't stop laughing at this scene. I think I was even clapping...
KibblesBits
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What if her monitor was one of the kids she's around?
The way she crosses her hands and turns at Felix afterwards was so good.
Man, even when she turned around in the chair to Felix at the end, you could see dat ass.
Maybe the actual premise of Orphan Black is create the perfect ass.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I think Alison and Felix are my favourites. You could make an entire awesome show just based on them.
Did not see the Helena/Sarah twist coming. And the cops know! Fuuuuuuuuu
Great episode.
I'm okay with dat.
Did not see the Helena/Sarah twist coming. And the cops know! Fuuuuuuuuu
Great episode.
I'm okay with dat.
RatskyWatsky
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Sarah and Helena are twins?! Clone twins?! whatisthisidonteven
New clone! World domination super mastermind clone or the original?
I also laughed seeing Allison clean Fe's apartment. Those two are so great together.
I like your theory. You just might be onto something!
I thought the big thing with the X-ray was that it showed no broken bones/internal damage - Kira was totally unharmed despite being hit by a car.
Because they've wisely chosen to keep each season taut and trim - no filler.
New clone! World domination super mastermind clone or the original?
I also laughed seeing Allison clean Fe's apartment. Those two are so great together.
I like your theory. You just might be onto something!
I thought the big thing with the X-ray was that it showed no broken bones/internal damage - Kira was totally unharmed despite being hit by a car.
Because they've wisely chosen to keep each season taut and trim - no filler.
That's what I like about this show. They pack as many revelations into one episode as another show would have in a whole season.
Holy shit, that is some cool attention to detail.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Now that Art knows about Sarah, the only way I see this playing out (now that the revelation that Sarah and Helena are twins) is Helena taking the fall for Sarah and going to prison in her place.
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