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[Wookieomg]

Dat ending... god damn. that was such an amazing scene. Tatiana deserves an Emmy after that. Sarah fearing Daniel, then being in suspense over what was happening when he left the room, to seeing Helena alive then fearing for her life all over again...

Culminating in her crying on her Helena's head.. So many emotions. Holy crap. One of my favorite episodes yet.

 

[royalan]

I propose we change the thread title to "Update pls"

 

[dead souls]

Brilliant episode. Just when you think Alison can't get any more hilarious they put her in rehab.

Two days in a row where shows have female characters having horrible non-consensual medical violations done to them. That's total nightmare fuel.

 

[royalan]

SO

Anybody think that it's just a coincidence that dearly department sliced Sarah in the exact same spot as Beth's "scar"? Because I don't.

Another great episode, and I love how they're building the mystery surrounding the girls. It's enough mystery to keep you asking questions, but not so much as to be LOST levels of obnoxious.

Also, I can't shake the feeling that SOMEONE we've already met is a part of another clone group...

 

[Quick]

Mrs. S

Down girl.

 

[Fantastical]

Also, I can't shake the feeling that SOMEONE we've already met is a part of another clone group...

Yeah... I feel like a big reveal is coming but we'll see.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I'm actually waiting for her to drop Delphine in some capacity.

"Cosmia and Delphine are locked into a transgressive lesbian geek spiral that's bound to end in tears"

LOL

 

[Quick]

Also, I can't shake the feeling that SOMEONE we've already met is a part of another clone group...

Clone CLUB.

Are you referring to the person hiding behind the door while Sarah and Felix were rummaging through Mrs. S's stuff?

And I did notice that Sarah was cut on the same/near the spot Beth had her scar.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Just started the episode,but omg @ Allison in rehab. I <3 you, you glorious hot mess.

Lol, update pls

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

I've just started the episode as well.
Alison is the best clone.

 

[Cornballer]

- Creator Graeme Manson on that shocking clone reunion
- 'Orphan Black' Declassified: Maria Doyle Kennedy on Mrs. S' Secrets, Racy Past
- Promo for next week’s episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Onion A|V Club review

 

[Quick]

Alison is probably the most straight-laced of the three, yet the most hilarious stuff happens to her.

Random moment from season 1: Alison whispering "touchdown" while having sex with Aynsley's husband was hilarious.

 

[Dereck]

I find it either uncharacteristic or cute of Rachel to use pls instead of please in a text message.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

On the one hand, I think Sarah's screaming and freaking out at the end was wicked overdone. She looked like the grim reaper itself had showed up and given her a stroke given how much she was screaming and shit.

But on the other hand, she looked legitimately fucking terrified. Like... holy fuck. She was so fucking scared, she had a fucking meltdown and lost her mind.

And then Helena hugged her.

I hope these two can just be friends

I find it either uncharacteristic or cute of Rachel to use pls instead of please in a text message.

It is adorable coming from someone so corporately evil.

 

[Ambient80]

So what was dude trying to do to Sarah? He said he would make it so she couldn't tell anyone anything about Project Leda, but I'm not sure what the cut in that area was trying to accomplish. Even thinking anatomically I'm not sure what cutting there could do. He couldn't kill her or Rachel would be pissed, so he had to be careful not to nick a larger artery. Maybe trying to sever innervation to tongue? I was almost expecting him to try to cut her tongue out completely.

 

[hodayathink]

So what was dude trying to do to Sarah? He said he would make it so she couldn't tell anyone anything about Project Leda, but I'm not sure what the cut in that area was trying to accomplish. Even thinking anatomically I'm not sure what cutting there could do. He couldn't kill her or Rachel would be pissed, so he had to be careful not to nick a larger artery. Maybe trying to sever innervation to tongue? I was almost expecting him to try to cut her tongue out completely.

At that particular moment, he was trying to torture her. The shutting her up would/could come later.

On the one hand, I think Sarah's screaming and freaking out at the end was wicked overdone. She looked like the grim reaper itself had showed up and given her a stroke given how much she was screaming and shit.

But on the other hand, she looked legitimately fucking terrified. Like... holy fuck. She was so fucking scared, she had a fucking meltdown and lost her mind.

How would you feel if you saw someone you shot point blank and thought were dead showed up in a blood-stained dress in front of you? Especially someone you know is a trained killer?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

At that particular moment, he was trying to torture her. The shutting her up would/could come later.



How would you feel if you saw someone you shot point blank and thought were dead showed up in a blood-stained dress in front of you? Especially someone you know is a trained killer?

I'd be like...

"Sup? Still besties?"

:|

 

[MisterFalcon]

I'd be like...

"Sup? Still besties?"

:|

Helena knew she could not kill Sarah, they are both unkillable. Sarah walked from a car crash basically unscathed and when Helena was smothered with a pillow she just respawned with full health.

 

[Dereck]

How would you feel if you saw someone you shot point blank and thought were dead showed up in a blood-stained dress in front of you? Especially someone you know is a trained killer?

I didn't get why it seemed like she was exaggerating but then I read this and now I get it.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I completely get the emotional reaction. I suppose its more that her screaming so much felt a bit... Strange since Sarah has never had this sort of wild reaction as far as I can remember.

 

[Dereck]

Sarah has never had this sort of wild reaction as far as I can remember.

Well, that too

 

[wildfire]

Sarah was going to die. He straight up said Leaky would never consider it, Rachel on her worst day might consider it and after all the shit she put him through he had enough and was going to end her.

That's why she was hysterical. Her life was literally flashing before her eyes and then Satan in a bloodstained wedding gown was prepared to take her away.

Maslaney is now officially my favorite actor/actress period.

I rewatched that entire ending multiple times. So good.

 

[n00bsauce87]

Strange since Sarah has never had this sort of wild reaction as far as I can remember.

She hasn't seen a lot of normality since coming back to fictitious city, USA. Let alone see the one person she hated the most and kill point blank range with a bloodied ripped wedding dress and knife come back while having her hands bound at the mercy of said hated person.

Her reaction is almost expected

Similar to Luffy and his brother in that one scene. Those who read one piece knows what I'm talking about. The brain just went to overload and failed.

 

[Cornballer]

- NY Mag on last night's episode

 

[Jay Shadow]

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I completely get the emotional reaction. I suppose its more that her screaming so much felt a bit... Strange since Sarah has never had this sort of wild reaction as far as I can remember.

I think it's a moment where she realises she's no longer 'untouchable'. There was no-one around, no-one to storm in and save her, her screaming was her last ditch attempt to perhaps try and rouse someone or perhaps she was just venting after all the shit she's been through the past few weeks?

That moment doubled as both a moment where she thought she would be brutally tortured and as a release. I can't say she didn't need one. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

 

[Megasoum]

Clone CLUB.

Are you referring to the person hiding behind the door while Sarah and Felix were rummaging through Mrs. S's stuff?

And I did notice that Sarah was cut on the same/near the spot Beth had her scar.

Pretty sure that was Helena. That's how she knew where to find Sarah and Daniel.

About the potential new clone... I was thinking about that and Felix was raised by Miss S and comes from the same "pipeline".. I bet the season will end with his clone showing up.... I'm not sure I can handle multiple Felix in Season 3 tho lol.

 

[royalan]

I think it's a moment where she realises she's no longer 'untouchable'. There was no-one around, no-one to storm in and save her, her screaming was her last ditch attempt to perhaps try and rouse someone or perhaps she was just venting after all the shit she's been through the past few weeks?

That moment doubled as both a moment where she thought she would be brutally tortured and as a release. I can't say she didn't need one. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

I wouldn't even say release. Last time Sarah saw Helena she put a bullet through her chest. She was probably thinking she'd been tossed out of the frying pan and into the fire when she saw Helena. After all, that guy wasn't going to kill her, just torture her. No telling WHAT Helena was going to do, in Sarah's mind at least.

Pretty sure that as Helena. That's how she knew where to find Sarah and Daniel.

About the potential new clone... I was thinking about that and Felix was raised by Miss S and comes from the same "pipeline".. I bet the season will end with his clone showing up.... I'm not sure I can handle multiple Felix in Season 3 tho lol.

I'm not so sure. Whoever that was seemed to have a pretty large build, they were also wearing a brown jacket of some sort that we haven't seen Helena with.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I wouldn't even say release. Last time Sarah saw Helena she put a bullet through her chest. She was probably thinking she'd been tossed out of the frying pan and into the fire when she saw Helena. After all, that guy wasn't going to kill her, just torture her. No telling WHAT Helena was going to do, in Sarah's mind at least.

That's very true as well. I imagine I'd probably freak out even worse if I saw the psycho who I thought was dead walking toward me with a knife.

 

[wildfire]

Adopt Kira would be my guess.

 

[royalan]

Also, my theory still stands for this season:

Spoiler

I think, more so than the clones themselves, the children of the clones are the key. I think the audience is being intentionally led to believe that the clones are the "Leda" here, when in reality, I think the clones might represent Zeus, mating with regular humans to produce demi-god offspring.

It makes sense, considering that the Neolutionists are all about advancing humanity biologically, so merely cloning humans would probably be a boring endeavor for them. But biologically altering those clones so that their offspring are born with mutant enhancements? That sounds like something they'd do.

Explains why it's such a big deal that the clones can't reproduce, why it's such a big deal that Sarah can, why people seem more interested in Kira than Sarah despite her best efforts, and explains why Kira has Wolverine's healing factor.

The only thing that throws a wrench in this is Helena, since she seems to also have healing factor, and so far she's the only clone that's demonstrated any advanced human abilities.

 

[tearsofash]

Just started watching this last night. I'm only four episodes in, but it's still pretty fantastic.

 

[Plasticine]

I hope Helena is brought into the clone fold. I need Allison and Helena scenes.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I hope Helena is brought into the clone fold. I need Allison and Helena scenes.

She's far beyond integration (making her a fantastic wildcard).

They're getting very good with their 'clone interaction' SFX. Great ending.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Everything about those last 5 minutes... OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I need Allison and Helena scenes.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I think Donnie and Helena with brunette dye job scenes would be fascinating.

 

[Cornballer]

- TV Guide: ‘Orphan Black’ talk: Co-creator weighs in on Ep 4 shockers
- io9 review

 

[Chariot]

I think Donnie and Helena with brunette dye job scenes would be fascinating.

I think that would turn Donnie into Vic.

 

[Larson Conway]

Those last five minutes

HOLY SHIT

(Also, LOL at Paul getting ZERO screentime for three episodes now.

Team Cal/Lumberpunk all the way.)

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I hope Helena is brought into the clone fold. I need Allison and Helena scenes.

YES.

Pls OB Showrunners, do that.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Whatever happened to Vic anyway?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Whatever happened to Vic anyway?

Found Jesus?

I really should have rewatched Season 1 to prep for Season 2.

 

[Larson Conway]

I hope Helena is brought into the clone fold. I need Allison and Helena scenes.

Yes pls

 

[shadowkat]

Pretty sure that was Helena. That's how she knew where to find Sarah and Daniel.
.

I'm not so sure. Whoever that was seemed to have a pretty large build, they were also wearing a brown jacket of some sort that we haven't seen Helena with.

Well, Helena said she followed Sarah from mother's house. I assume it was her in the basement.

Fantastic episode. And that ending. :O

 

[george_us]

Holy shit that ending.

Spoiler

That look of pure terror on Sarah's face as Helena's approaching her

was gut wrenching. Amazing acting.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

 

[Quick]

Whatever happened to Vic anyway?

Vic is in a better place now.

Rehab, maybe. Maybe even the same place as Alison. That would be pretty funny.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Vic is in a better place now.

Rehab, maybe. Maybe even the same place as Alison. That would be pretty funny.

Ohhhhhhh my God, this would be amazing. Please, show runners!

 

[Chariot]

Vic is in a better place now.

Rehab, maybe. Maybe even the same place as Alison. That would be pretty funny.

Haha, that would be great. This "one week" would be hell.
And would maybe end with Vic losing another bodypart. I swear, he is gonna be a cyborg in s4 and it will be revealed that Orphan Black is actually DC Comics.