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MIMIC

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I'm glad Jamie Foxx is getting a lot of attention now. I was a fan of his when he was on "The Jamie Foxx Show." I always KNEW he was a great actor....he just wasn't recognized yet.
 
Why is Before Sunset in the adapted screenplay category? Aside from it being a sequel, it isn't based on any pre-existing material, at least that I know of.
 

tmdorsey

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MIMIC said:
I'm glad Jamie Foxx is getting a lot of attention now. I was a fan of his when he was on "The Jamie Foxx Show." I always KNEW he was a great actor....he just wasn't recognized yet.


IAWTP. The man is multi-talented. Funny, can sing, and can act. Haters go drink some Clorox.
 

Meier

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I'm annoyed but not necessarily shocked by Paul's absence since comedic roles rarely get Oscar noms, but Collateral not making it in for Cinematography is shocking and utterly mind-boggling. It has some of the best I've seen in my entire life.
 

Memles

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Shig said:
Do you even know what a 'deus ex machina' is?

Re: animated feature, yeah total gyp that Polar Express didn't get the nod, easily way better than Shark Tale... And didn't The Triplets of Belleville come out last year?

Triplets was nominated for 2003 and lost to Finding Nemo. Good movie, but not as good as Nemo.

This thread needs to be locked; a lot of the questions in it are being answered in the other thread (See there for the Before Sunset answer).
 

Tarazet

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JasoNsider said:
I completely ignore the red carpet bullshit and instead concentrate on seeing that people who put their neck on the line get rewarded for it. Every year it's the same deal - there are those who risked a great deal and finally get rewarded for their efforts and then there are those who are sorely overlooked.

The only thing I care about is that there really are people out there who sweat the small stuff and sometimes they get rewarded for sticking it out with an oscar nomination.

Agreed 100%. The only worthwhile moments in the past few years have been Charlize Theron winning for Best Actress and Roberto Benigni's ecstatic reception for La Vita e Bella.
 
Meier said:
I'm annoyed but not necessarily shocked by Paul's absence since comedic roles rarely get Oscar noms, but Collateral not making it in for Cinematography is shocking and utterly mind-boggling. It has some of the best I've seen in my entire life.

This can't be re-stated enough ^^

How in the world did Mann's visually astonishing picture get overlooked in Cinematography? Lighting and composition was absolutely killer in that picture.
 

sefskillz

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distantmantra said:
Why is Before Sunset in the adapted screenplay category? Aside from it being a sequel, it isn't based on any pre-existing material, at least that I know of.
It's either because it's a sequel based on an original concept or because Kim Krizan wrote a script for it predating the Linklater/Delpy/Hawke script. I'm gonna go with the sequel idea though.
 

Prospero

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JasoNsider said:
How in the world did Mann's visually astonishing picture get overlooked in Cinematography?

I thought it was a beautiful film, too. Maybe it was overlooked because it was shot on digital video, not film.
 

J2 Cool

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Well, I'm happy for Jamie Foxx, Kate Winslet, Johnny Depp(never wins it but is great)... On the other hand, best picture list is one of the worst in many many years. Jim Carrey meanwhile got screwed, playing a role where I was brought into the character's psyche better than any character in a long time. And that along with a movie as smart, emotional, and gripping as Eternal Sunshine was just an amazing experience. It definetly got robbed. I'm sick of Carrey not getting any respect.

Also, Shark's Tale!!? WTFISTHISSHIT!? If the Incredibles doesn't win I'm gonna puke. Btw, where's Pixar's short, Boundin'? I liked that one a lot. Felt very cartoonish, akin to the golden age. Simple song and hilarious animation. Ah well.
 
I always yell bullshit to every year's list of Oscar nominees, but I swear this year's is the worst.

How in the fuck did both Bill Murray and Paul Giamatti not get nods?

And why didn't Some Kind of Monster get a nomination for best documentary. But more importantly...

border said:
Why the hell is Tupac: Resurrection even eligible for Best Documentary? According to Box Office Mojo, it opened on November 14, 2003.....and left theaters on December 25, 2003. It wasn't even showing at all during the 2004 calendar year so why the hell is it nominated for Best 2004 Documentary? How is that fair to the other documentaries that were legitimately released in the past 12 months?
 

Memles

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J2 Cool said:
Also, Shark's Tale!!? WTFISTHISSHIT!? If the Incredibles doesn't win I'm gonna puke. Btw, where's Pixar's short, Boundin'? I liked that one a lot. Felt very cartoonish, akin to the golden age. Simple song and hilarious animation. Ah well.

The Incredibles will win.

And since I'm all about answering questions, Boundin' was submitted for the Academy Award for Best Animal Short last year, and lost to Harvey Krumpet, an Australian short animated film. I too enjoyed Boundin', but it already was nominated and lost.
 

etiolate

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And pardon me, but I thought Clint Eastwood already got his sorry-we-overlooked-you-when-you-were-younger award for Unforgiven?
 

duckroll

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Matlock said:
The thing that pushes the plot and/or the main character along. :p

Wrong.

1. In Greek and Roman drama, a god lowered by stage machinery to resolve a plot or extricate the protagonist from a difficult situation.

2. An unexpected, artificial, or improbable character, device, or event introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or drama to resolve a situation or untangle a plot.

3. A person or event that provides a sudden and unexpected solution to a difficulty.

Keyword: sudden.

You lose again Matlock! :lol
 

Matlock

Banned
dear duckroll

I'm a gonna pirate a shitload of anime, and I'm a gonna LIKE IT

:D


:p



of course, sudden is not always the main point here: denote the first definition
 

duckroll

Member
Matlock said:
dear duckroll

I'm a gonna pirate a shitload of anime, and I'm a gonna LIKE IT

:D


:p

Okay... that had what to do with you not knowing the correct meaning of the phrase "deus ex machina"? :D

of course, sudden is not always the main point here: denote the first definition

The first definition is the origin of the word, used specifically to refer to a) stage plays, b) props representing gods. Jamie Foxx is neither, so stop being a sore loser and cut your losses before you make yourself look any more like an uneducated moron. :lol
 
Kate Winslet got nominated for best Actress for Eternal Sunshine, but Eternal Sunshine didn't get nominated for best picture? WHAT THE FUCK? Jesus fuck that's retarded.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
bonesquad said:
AHHH! Eternal Sunshine and Jim Carrey got SCREWED! Fuck you Mr. Oscar!

Dont forget Beck's "Everybody's gotta learn sometime', also snubbed. Less deservingly snubbed than Best Picture and Best Actor
 

MetatronM

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Matlock said:
As for GITS2: it's origin is Japan, isn't it? Maybe that disqualified it from domestic best animated film. I dunno.
No, Ghost in the Shell 2 was listed as eligible for Best Animated Feature.

Regardless, I've never been so apathetic towards an Oscar nominations list before. I mean, it was expected, but really there's just nothing here I really give a damn about.
 

Teddman

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border said:
Why the hell is Tupac: Resurrection even eligible for Best Documentary? According to Box Office Mojo, it opened on November 14, 2003.....and left theaters on December 25, 2003. It wasn't even showing at all during the 2004 calendar year so why the hell is it nominated for Best 2004 Documentary? How is that fair to the other documentaries that were legitimately released in the past 12 months?
It was probably still playing in a few theaters in 2004, anyway it wasn't nominated last year.

Tupac Resurrection should win. It was a real innovative way to make a biography documentary, probably the most intimate look at a subject ever because of the voluminous interview footage they had to make it seem like Tupac was telling his own life story.
 
MetatronM said:
No, Ghost in the Shell 2 was listed as eligible for Best Animated Feature.

Regardless, I've never been so apathetic towards an Oscar nominations list before. I mean, it was expected, but really there's just nothing here I really give a damn about.

That's unfortunate. Sideways was good enough that it should, at the very least, make this list worthwhile. Check it out.
 

Memles

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Mike Works said:
Kate Winslet got nominated for best Actress for Eternal Sunshine, but Eternal Sunshine didn't get nominated for best picture? WHAT THE FUCK? Jesus fuck that's retarded.

All of the Best Picture Nominations other than Sideways have Best Actor nods, and Sideways has two acting nominations anyways. So, really, although I think linking a Best Picture nod to anything but Directing has no real merit, Actor is the real precursor.
 

Meier

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I'm pretty shocked that Tarnation wasn't nominated for Best Documentary.

P.S. That list of Best Picture nominations isnt THAT bad. Sideways is the best film of the year, The Aviator is a Scorsese film, M$B is by all accounts phenomenal, Ray is a biopic about a well-loved entertainer who just died and features the performance that will win Best Actor and lastly, Finding Neverland is a good quality family flick with a very hot actor. Seriously, none of the nominations are a surprise at all.
 

border

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Meier said:
I'm pretty shocked that Tarnation wasn't nominated for Best Documentary.
Apparently they would rather nominate movies that weren't even released in 2004...

SIDEWAYS FOR BEST PICTURE OF 2005!
 

Alucard

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The lack of love for Eternal Sunshine and Jim Carrey totally stupifies me.

I need to see Sideways and Finding Neverland.

Maybe this will be the year when someone slaps Joan Rivers in the face or owns her verbally on the red carpet. Fuck, I hate her and Hollywood and glitz and glamour.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
J2 Cool said:
Btw, where's Pixar's short, Boundin'? I liked that one a lot. Felt very cartoonish, akin to the golden age. Simple song and hilarious animation. Ah well.
Boundin' was nominated last year. It lost to Harvie Krumpet.

Minotauro said:
Am I the only one who's completely jaded to this whole process? Aside from a general distaste towards trying to determine which film is "better", I'm sickened by all the pagentry and bullshit that goes along with the Academy Awards. I'm all for honoring filmmakers and actors and whoever but does it really have to be such an overblown event? Ugh, maybe it's just not for me. I guess the awards are really more aimed at people who watch Entertainment Tonight and like to discuss all the "star" gossip. It just seems to me that the original idea for the Oscars now takes a backseat to entertainment and fashion.

I know I'm definitely in the minority and I'm sure no one wants me crapping on all the super fun Oscar hoopla but it gets more and more absurd every year. I'm honestly considering not watching this year. Ah, who am I kidding?
No, I think the whole thing is bullshit too. That said, I tune in to see the occasional hard working individual win and get the chance to make a good speech. Otherwise, as I said in the other thread, these awards are largely voted upon in a hype-induced popularity contest fashion, and it's pretty fucked up. I've even seen indications that the Academy looks to nominate popular films because the television ratings soar when the masses have something they like to root for (see Titanic and ROTK).
 

SteveMeister

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Alucard said:
The lack of love for Eternal Sunshine and Jim Carrey totally stupifies me.

That's the danger of being released early in the year. Eternal Sunshine was released 19 days after the 76th Academy Awards. The production company would have had to mount a hype campaign late in '04 in order to remind Academy voters of it.
 

olimario

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BEST ART DIRECTION
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events

I think we have a winner.
The entire movie was breathtaking and the end credits were unequeled.
 

Alucard

Banned
SteveMeister said:
That's the danger of being released early in the year. Eternal Sunshine was released 19 days after the 76th Academy Awards. The production company would have had to mount a hype campaign late in '04 in order to remind Academy voters of it.

I guess that's kind of true. Still, any "annual" awards show that only has an attention span that doesn't go beyond 4-6 months has a major problem. It's total BS. I'm really rooting for Kate Winslet to win in her category, and for Eternal Sunshine to win for best original screenplay. It was by far the best movie I've seen all year. I doubt something like Million Dollar Baby or Ray could top it for me.
 

Memles

Member
The earliest released film nominated for Best Picture is Sideways, which entered like 2 theatres on October 22nd. There's a short attention span for you.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
Memles said:
The earliest released film nominated for Best Picture is Sideways, which entered like 2 theatres on October 22nd. There's a short attention span for you.

Well it's deliberate. Studios that TRY for the big nominations usually release towards the end of the year.
 
:lol :lol :lol

I just remembered Michael Moore's campaign for the Best Picture nomination.

I bet he's wishing he had filed for the documentary award now. . .
 

kablooey

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Apple Jax said:
Mark me down as being disappointed at not seeing Giamatti in there. He's just one of those guys who's been in it so long that you'd love for him to get some awesome recognition. Suberb actor who choses interesting... yet fun roles. I got yer back, buddy.

Yeah, it almost seems like a slap in the face that Giamatti, who more or less carried that film (though with good help from Church) didn't get a nomination, though Church did. That makes me :(. He deserves one. :mad:
 

Dante

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I was hoping to see David Carradine get a nod, but I guess the Academy didn't see it as a worthy addition. Kate was good in ES, but I also thought Jim Carrey was excellent as well, although I haven't seen to many of the other performances nominated.
 

Alucard

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If only Sideways actually played in more theatres...

So, who here has seen Ray? I've heard that Fox's performance is great, but the movie itself isn't too special. Why would it be in the best picture category if that seems to be the concensus among critics? For a film to be nominated in the "best picture" category, it should be truly special, not just "good" and heavily carried by one performance.
 

Celicar

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I am going to watch Sideways this weekend probably, but I thought Million Dollar Baby was an awesome flik. Don't know if Sideways can top it.

And wtf is with the two nominations for Jamie Foxx? I saw Collateral. He did nothing special. Ray was a horrible movie. Big fuckin deal. Beh.
 
Matlock said:
The thing that pushes the plot and/or the main character along. :p


Hahaha. That's so NOT a deus ex machina.

DEFINITION :

In some ancient Greek drama, an apparently insoluble crisis was solved by the intervention of a god, often brought on stage by an elaborate piece of equipment. This "god from the machine" was literally a deus ex machina.
Few modern works feature deities suspended by wires from the ceiling, but the term deus ex machina is still used for cases where an author uses some improbable (and often clumsy) plot device to work his or her way out of a difficult situation. When the cavalry comes charging over the hill or when the impoverished hero is relieved by an unexpected inheritance, it's often called a deus ex machina.

Jamie Foxx doesn't qualify for this at ALL.

NOW STOP TALKING THROUGH YOUR ASS!
 
etiolate said:
And pardon me, but I thought Clint Eastwood already got his sorry-we-overlooked-you-when-you-were-younger award for Unforgiven?

The stupid hate for Million Dollar Baby is endlessly frustrating. It's one of the best films I've seen in the fucking decade.
 
I didn't expect Eternal Sunshine to get enough recognition to be Best Picture, though it should have been nominated. However, what I'm REALLY confused at is how it didn't get nominated for Best Editing. I mean, how? The whole film was marvelously edited and did it seamlessly.
 

Matlock

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I like how that I agree with points, then say how someone might think of it with a slightly misinterpreted term, then attacked by people who agree with my original points.

God bless you, GAF
 
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