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AlternativeUlster said:
What does this even mean? I hope you are saying Synecdoche is really awful since it is one of the most offensive films I have ever seen. It is the equivelent of seeing blackface to me, it is so disgusting.
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i thought it has a pretty obvious meaning. Synecdoche, New York is one of the best movies of last year and it was well and truly snubbed and it is better than Slumdog.

Don't know why you felt the need to interject your prolific bad taste, and equate it to blackface no less, but that's on you.
 
legend166 said:
The fact that Wall-E has no chance of being nominated for Best Picture just pisses me off to much to care about the Oscars this year.
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I was more upset when The Incredibles was "snubbed", honestly. But yeah.
 
Kate for the reader, seriously?

I think anne or meryll streep will win that one, kate shouldnt stand a chance for the reader... then she was more impressive in Revolutionary Road
 
Amir0x said:
i thought it has a pretty obvious meaning. Synecdoche, New York is one of the best movies of last year and it was well and truly snubbed and it is better than Slumdog.

Don't know why you felt the need to interject your prolific bad taste, and equate it to blackface no less, but that's on you.
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Synecdoche is fake avant-garde cinema. Avant-garde is made by super high level intellectuals or crazy people who don't know any better. Charlie Kauffman is neither but hey, enjoy your A-B-C is 1-2-3 "art-house" film.
 
robertsan21 said:
Kate for the reader, seriously?

I think anne or meryll streep will win that one, kate shouldnt stand a chance for the reader... then she was more impressive in Revolutionary Road
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Kate Winslet was great in the Reader and with a Golden Globe win too, she is probably the frontrunner.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
Synecdoche is fake avant-garde cinema. Avant-garde is made by super high level intellectuals or crazy people who don't know any better. Charlie Kauffman is neither but hey, enjoy your A-B-C is 1-2-3 "art-house" film.
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Well if talks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, and even eats like a Duck, it must be a...
 
AlternativeUlster said:
Kate Winslet was great in the Reader and with a Golden Globe win too, she is probably the frontrunner.
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Yeah, absolutely. The fact that they liked her performance enough to bump her from Supporting makes it pretty clear she's going to win. And since AMPAS clearly loved The Reader but won't award it Picture or Director, this will be their way of recognizing it (much like Tilda's win for Michael Clayton a year ago).
 
AniHawk said:
The Reader looks like one of those obnoxious forgettable Oscar films that could have been better filled by a more mainstream film like The Dark Knight or Wall•E. They probably wouldn't win, but people will look back on 2008 and remember those movies.
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I can agree with this. It's basically like the academy sent the reader out to die just to retain some sort of film snob cred. If they really wanted to send movies out to die they should have at least done ones that people could relate to. Mind you I don't think TDK is actually DESERVING of best picture... but not any less so than The Reader either, and with neither having a chance of winning you'd think the academy would go with the one that would actually bring viewers in.
 
UltimaPooh said:
Well if talks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, and even eats like a Duck, it must be a...
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That is fine that if you think stuff like kids banging on toy instruments screaming stuff from the bible is avant-garde but I like to believe that there are fakes out there trying to make fake art.
 
it's not so surprising that nolan and the dark knight didn't get nominated for best director and movie. ledger, and to a lesser extent eckman, totally carry that movie, and make it what it is. the last act is absolutely terrible and christian bale almost ruins the scenes he's in. it's better than most superhero movies, though.

Eric WK said:
(much like Tilda's win for Michael Clayton a year ago).
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i don't know if she deserved the oscar--i can't remember the other nominees--but yeah, she was excellent. her performance in that scene with her practising what she's gonna say in front of the mirror is incredible.

the movie isn't anything special, but a lot of the performances were really great, i thought.
 
Bale is pretty awful as batman tho... i fucking cant stand batman voice. I like him as an actor...just dont know wtf he is thinking with that
 
Its funny, I remember people hating Bale's Batman voice in BB, and obviously hating it in TDK. However, having just watched both for the first time close together, its amazing how:
- fine his Batman voice is in BB; it didnt bother me at all this time
- GODAWFUL fucking terrible in was in TDK; it took me out of several scenes
 
AlternativeUlster said:
That is fine that if you think stuff like kids banging on toy instruments screaming stuff from the bible is avant-garde but I like to believe that there are fakes out there trying to make fake art.
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So how can you tell the difference between fake art and real art?
 
Eric WK said:
Yeah, absolutely. The fact that they liked her performance enough to bump her from Supporting makes it pretty clear she's going to win. And since AMPAS clearly loved The Reader but won't award it Picture or Director, this will be their way of recognizing it (much like Tilda's win for Michael Clayton a year ago).
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Yes they clearly liked it but enough to make it win?.... hmmm I doubt that.

Amirox, what you think?
 
robertsan21 said:
Yes they clearly liked it but enough to make it win?.... hmmm I doubt that.

Amirox, what you think?
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Steep and Hathaway have only been losing momentum through the season so far, as it is. There's no way anyone but Winslet is the frontrunner at this point.

Sasha Stone at Awards Daily plays the popularity contest angle in regards to this:

Will the SAG go that way? They have Kate times two so how they’ll go won’t directly reflect how the Oscars are going to go. Having in supporting for The Reader means she’ll probably win that for the SAG while someone else has a chance of not only winning the SAG but giving a good enough speech to up her chances at stealing the prize from Kate for lead actress (though I seriously doubt, at this rate, anyone can). And it isn’t even so much about the performances — the awards race is 90% of the time a popularity contest. Winslet has it all this year, nothing stands in her way.
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Solo said:
Its funny, I remember people hating Bale's Batman voice in BB, and obviously hating it in TDK. However, having just watched both for the first time close together, its amazing how:
- fine his Batman voice is in BB; it didnt bother me at all this time
- GODAWFUL fucking terrible in was in TDK; it took me out of several scenes
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It really is so goddamn fucking awful in TDK. It ruins that rooftop dialogue.
 
BrandNew said:
Once again? Who was more interesting than Bruce in Begins?
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Hmm I would not bother. He seems to think BB was terrible where I think the majority of ppl would agree that BB got it right and made Bruce interesting and understood as he is supposed to be. The previous Batman films did a terrible job explaining Bruce and what he is and why he is what he is.

TDK has a confusing ending? It confused the Academy? WTF? How can it be confusing when Batman basically explains the major themes during that ending scene? Comic book morality would have set in with absolutes. Absolute good and absolute evil. TDK does not end in your typical comic book cheese morality.

Still I do not get why everyone is mad. It was a given it would not be nominated...at least to me it was. A Batman movie? I remember the few critics who did not like it would almost always mention something about the movie taking itself too seriously or not being as "fun" as Iron Man. They basically did not want to see a serious Batman movie and did not get why it was even trying to be more than what it is. In their heads the source material does not support or even suggest any complexicity outside of DURR IM BATMAN I FIGHT EVIL!
 
CajoleJuice said:
It really is so goddamn fucking awful in TDK. It ruins that rooftop dialogue.
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It was better in BB. Still every time I watch TDK over again I seem to find it less distracting.
 
CajoleJuice said:
It really is so goddamn fucking awful in TDK. It ruins that rooftop dialogue.
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Yeah, thats what I mean. TDK's voice is so bad that it retroactively makes his BB much more agreeable and natural.
 
I was never bothered by the Batman voice. I actually enjoy it. If I had to criticize anything it did sound stranger when he was out of breath towards the end of the film.
 
effzee said:
It was better in BB. Still every time I watch TDK over again I seem to find it less distracting.
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The only bit about Batman that distracted me in Dark Knight was this:
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He looks wierd :lol
 
batman has a lisp. he shouldn't have a lisp. that's the one thing wrong with it, imo.

don't know why bale chose to do it that way, but it was a mistake.

p.s. i love tdk and otherwise think it's amazing
 
i only talk about movies in the criterion collection, movies in black and white, and movies about people who cry at the sight of flowers

check that--calling them "movies" is a disservice
 
Still don't understand the Batman voice thing, but if the way someone talks is the only huge issue, that film's still pretty rock solid.



Fucking Ron Howard again. I mean, fuck. Who's dick does Andrew Stanton have to suck to get a nom?!
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Still don't understand the Batman voice thing, but if the way someone talks is the only huge issue, that film's still pretty rock solid.



Fucking Ron Howard again. I mean, fuck. Who's dick does Andrew Stanton have to suck to get a nom?!
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Bale's voice was the only thing I would call out-and-out terrible about the movie, but there were definitely other aspects that weren't very good, like the camerawork during the action sequences and the hilariously stereotyped supporting actors, with the possible exception of whoever played Harvey Dent (Heath Ledger's performance was definitely transcendental and I cannot pile enough superlatives on top of it, but except for awards purposes no one seriously believes he was a supporting actor). So I mean... yeah, it's a solid film, but outside of Ledger's performance it's a pretty unremarkable one unless you are heavily invested in the Batman franchise. As someone who doesn't usually see superhero movies I probably don't appreciate just how much of a leap it is above their usual quality.
 
Jonah Nolan sent a letter to that Dark Knight Oscar campaign fansite, pretty cool of him

http://www.darkcampaign.com/?p=197

hey — not sure who to address this to as it looks like a collective effort, but I just wanted to pass along my thanks.

It’s truly humbling that you guys would take the time and effort to try to get the film recognized. I, like you, was disappointed that Chris didn’t get some recognition this morning, but for Heath and so many of the people who worked so hard on this thing to get nominated is thrilling.

Any nominations for a comic book movie is a thing of beauty no matter how you slice it, and that takes the sting out a bit. Besides, I’ve been to the big show before, and, like any of these things, it’s a little disappointing. Did you know it’s not even an open bar once the show starts? At least this time I would have remembered to bring a little cash so I could buy myself a drink after losing.

The best part of this experience is seeing other people getting passionate about the film the way that we did. It has been a truly incredible experience. So thank you again.

best,

jonah nolan
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SpeedingUptoStop said:
Still don't understand the Batman voice thing, but if the way someone talks is the only huge issue, that film's still pretty rock solid.



Fucking Ron Howard again. I mean, fuck. Who's dick does Andrew Stanton have to suck to get a nom?!
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Yes. We realise that you don't like Ron Howard. Now please shut the fuck up about it.

That newsweek roundtable bunch of interviews are AWESOME.
 
Sharp said:
Bale's voice was the only thing I would call out-and-out terrible about the movie, but there were definitely other aspects that weren't very good, like the camerawork during the action sequences and the hilariously stereotyped supporting actors, with the possible exception of whoever played Harvey Dent (Heath Ledger's performance was definitely transcendental and I cannot pile enough superlatives on top of it, but except for awards purposes no one seriously believes he was a supporting actor). So I mean... yeah, it's a solid film, but outside of Ledger's performance it's a pretty unremarkable one unless you are heavily invested in the Batman franchise. As someone who doesn't usually see superhero movies I probably don't appreciate just how much of a leap it is above their usual quality.
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You sound like a casual film goer.

Aaron Eckhart played Harvey Dent. Even if you are just referring to the film's extras I will still say the entire ensemble did a wonderful job.

Ledger was a supporting actor.
 
ron howard is a poor man's stephen spielberg. and even stephen spielberg has been a poor man's stephen spielberg for about ten years. so ron howard is like poorer man's stephen spielberg. destitute.
 
beelzebozo said:
ron howard is a poor man's stephen spielberg. and even stephen spielberg has been a poor man's stephen spielberg for about ten years. so ron howard is like poorer man's stephen spielberg. destitute.
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:lol
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
You sound like a casual film goer.

Aaron Eckhart played Harvey Dent. Even if you are just referring to the film's extras I will still say the entire ensemble did a wonderful job.

Ledger was a supporting actor.
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I am a casual filmgoer. I also don't really know the names of most actors or celebrities. The only movies I make it a point to see in theaters are the yearly Pixar installments. I have watched all the Oscar nominees this year except BB though, and I do think Dark Knight was a better film than Frost/Nixon and The Reader.

As for the acting... maybe it was just the lines they had to work with, but for most of the supporting cast it felt pretty blah. I guess that's what they're supposed to do, though--support unobtrusively--so maybe they succeeded in that. And while I suppose Ledger was a supporting actor in the sense that he wasn't in the name of the movie, in all other respects he felt like one--he commanded attention in every scene he was in, and was in more than any of the other actors except Bale. Considering that Twoface had a pretty brief run he was Batman's only real rival and played at least as important a part as he did--if anything, it felt like Batman existed only to shed light on his personality. So... maybe it's just because I'm a casual filmgoer and I don't understand the subtleties that go into the designation, but to me it seems like whatever arbitrary standard was applied to TDK to make Ledger a supporting actor could just as easily have been applied to Frost/Nixon to make Langella one.
 
beelzebozo said:
ron howard is a poor man's stephen spielberg. and even stephen spielberg has been a poor man's stephen spielberg for about ten years. so ron howard is like poorer man's stephen spielberg. destitute.
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Ron Howard did the voice over narration in Arrested Development, Ron Howard > Steven Spielberg
 
Darko said:
He's still a shitty director.
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Oh come on now good sir, he isn't that bad. He isn't particular inspiring but he has a bunch of nice fluff features. He will never be an auteaur or anything but who knows, maybe in 50 years, Parenthood will be on the Criterion Collection or something. Ha ha.
 
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