When you are being attacked by two dogs trained to tear you to pieces, you're probably only better off with a jetpack.
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Out of control pit bulls attack man.
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When you are being attacked by two dogs trained to tear you to pieces, you're probably only better off with a jetpack.
Well yeah, I said two dogs make it a pretty shitty situation no matter what. I just hope that if I ever find myself in a situation of being attacked by a vicious dog, I have my wits about me to just attack the dog back even harder.
Yup, were none of them trying to pry the dogs off the man able to kick?
Edit: never mind, just read that the dogs wouldve shrugged off any kick attempts. Those who came to this man's aid are heroes.
R10Neymarfan
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Too bad banning won't do anything and in places where they have been banned hasn't done anything at all. It just makes it worst, ok it's easier
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Deleted member 1159
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I blame the assholes who made the dog a fighting dog in the first place. Again, we're talking about an environmental factor influencing the dog to be a certain way, not necessarily a trait of the breed (though I recognize the physical traits make asshats want them for fighting). Give those same owners that same dog as a pup and see how it turns out.
I'm not delusional, I think some dogs who are abused or trained to kill may need to be put down or taken out of the general population. I don't think the breed needs to be banned, however.
FloatingDivider
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I saw several people that nearly got bit and two that actually got bit. I don't think kicking the dog would work unless a soccer player or nfl kicker happened to walk by. That being said I'm fairly sure the kind of person who trains their dogs to attack on command are unfit to own one regardless of the breed. Why can't everyone get cats? Cats are great, and they only disappoint you when you realize they don't actually love you and will eat your corpse before it's done dying.
Putting down an animal as strong as a Pit Bull would require savagery the average person can't really be expected to muster. Kicks and punches won't dissuade them. A bat (in the video) or knife would do the trick, possibly, but who is really prepared to brutalize a dog with a knife in the heat of the moment?
Bystander effect is a real thing as well.
gutter_trash
Banned
People who don't want ban on pitbulls must come with a compromise for a powerful breed that is difficult to restrain if it goes out of control.
So you don't want a ban on pitbulls? fine.
But the compromise would be obligatory muzzles for all pitbull breeds, mixes and fighting dog breeds.
If they don't have a muzzle, then you get your ass fined.
If they don't have a collar with owner's address and number, then that dog should go to the pound
fuck pittbulls
So you don't want a ban on pitbulls? fine.
But the compromise would be obligatory muzzles for all pitbull breeds, mixes and fighting dog breeds.
If they don't have a muzzle, then you get your ass fined.
If they don't have a collar with owner's address and number, then that dog should go to the pound
fuck pittbulls
OK, I think I understand now a little better why someone would want a pit bull. The most reasonable approach would probably that you have to go through some training etc. before you can own any larger dog.
And yeah, never leave them alone with children no matter what breed.
AuthenticM
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The pittbul race should be exterminated.
Neutrality
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Wow. What a nice person you are.
So much hatred for the woman who caused this. Her actions have injured several people, some severely and her dogs will no doubt be put down because she ordered them to attack someone.
The only reasons your dog should have an attack command is if you compete in Schutzhund/IPO or if they are a properly trained protection dog. If you have the patience, time and money for either you're likely responsible enough to not use commands when they shouldn't be given.
The only reasons your dog should have an attack command is if you compete in Schutzhund/IPO or if they are a properly trained protection dog. If you have the patience, time and money for either you're likely responsible enough to not use commands when they shouldn't be given.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I see. A fellow graduate from the General Betrayus School of Conflict Resolution.
No, but a poorly raised beagle versus a poorly raised pit bull will have wildly different results.
Your Entertainer
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But they're the nicest and sweetest dog breed evar!!1 mine would never hurt anyone
LookAtMeGo
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The fuck is this?
Admiral Woofington
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Eh. Easy to hate on pitbulls when they are largely an issue with bad owners. Any of the docile giant dogs that everybody loves could do just as much damage if raised to be aggressive.
I understand that personal experience isn't really questioned but every pitbull I've met raised by somebody who cares (my lab/pit mix included) are the sweetest dogs I've seen. In term my family member's labrador bites extremely fucking hard and plays way too rough with people.
I understand that personal experience isn't really questioned but every pitbull I've met raised by somebody who cares (my lab/pit mix included) are the sweetest dogs I've seen. In term my family member's labrador bites extremely fucking hard and plays way too rough with people.
tekumseh
a mass of phermones, hormones and adrenaline just waiting to explode
My daughter and her husband had a Staffordshire bull terrier for 5 years before he passed from cancer. He was extraordinarily gentle.
They now have a deaf pitbull, who was rescued after someone ran over him with a car. He was fostered for almost a year with weimaraners and female Staffy. That dog is amazing, and scared to death of my Jack Russell terrier.
Arguing that it's the breed is a false narrative. More people get bit by golden retrievers, among others,in a year than by pitbulls. In 10 plus years around bully breeds, I've never seen one iota of aggressive behavior from them...
They now have a deaf pitbull, who was rescued after someone ran over him with a car. He was fostered for almost a year with weimaraners and female Staffy. That dog is amazing, and scared to death of my Jack Russell terrier.
Arguing that it's the breed is a false narrative. More people get bit by golden retrievers, among others,in a year than by pitbulls. In 10 plus years around bully breeds, I've never seen one iota of aggressive behavior from them...
Two dogs. Two years, just my opinion. Who the hell does something like this? The guy is 62 and being bleeding out like crazy. She deserves more than a year for setting her dogs on someone.
Any dog raised by a lousy owner will become an aggressive monster. Even GAF forgets that nature and nurture aren't mutually exclusive, Pit Bulls epitomize this quite well. A well trained Pit can be loving and loyal, I myself own a mix. But I'd be lying if I said that his violent snaps weren't WAY worse than any other dogs I've owned. I love him to death but anything less than a well trained pit bull is a complete fucking danger to the general public.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
To be fair, most dogs that aren't intended for breeding (meaning, the vast majority of pet dogs) should be spayed/neutered. The whole canine eugenics angle id fucked though, I agree.
To all the silly fuckers who actually believe they should be eliminated outright: what then? Do vile shitheads who want an attack dog just give up and pout? Or do they switch to any of a dozen breeds like rottweilers or mastiffs, and then we have to eliminate them too? It's a completely absurd position with no realistic, attainable end.
Instead of sneering at everyone could you try and form an opposing argument please.
Many of us owe an apology to first person with the leashes, as he's a good samaritan trying to control the dogs, not the owner falling to do so.
BTW, attempted murder?
If people want to say that all pitbull-related deaths and assaults are due to poor ownership then the next logical step is background screening for pitbull ownership... because evidently a poorly raised pitbull is much more dangerous than when most other breeds are poorly raised.
BennyBlanco
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She'll probably only actually be in prison for a few months. Sucks, because she is a real piece of shit.
SapientWolf
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It's both. Dogs are animals, not people. You can't predict their behavior with 100% certainty.I just want to point out that this is nuture and not nature. I've done a lot of work with the humane Society to get beautiful pitties wonderful homes, and they are gorgeous and silly animals who deserve a lot better than they get. I hate the culture behind owning them and what people assume they are for. Please give them a chance and really speak to your local humane society about the dog that is right for you. As a quick reminder, not all dogs are compatible with your lifestyle, and these pitties and all other animals at the shelter have gone through a process to filter what homes are the best fit for them. But seriously...I love these dogs and think they should be given a proper chance at a happy life with the right family.
ThankYouDaletech
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People should be screened for ownership of any dog.
Vicetrailia
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Wow that was way worse than I imagined it to be. It's hard not to be reactionary after seeing things like that, but it's the owners responsibility and fault.
No. Screening specifically for notoriously dangerous breeds may improve these types of problems though.
No. Screening specifically for notoriously dangerous breeds may improve these types of problems though.
Threads like these are why dog lovers have always creeped me out a little. They hold these animals at such a high regard, it's just unsettling.
This article here literally compares dislike towards specific breeds of dogs to racism (I know he's trying to tip-toe around it, but you can tell what he's really getting at). There's a very clear difference between disliking a dog because it has been historically trained for the specific purpose of fighting and maiming, and discriminating against other people and treating them as subhuman for hundreds of years. Seriously, give me a break with this.
This article here literally compares dislike towards specific breeds of dogs to racism (I know he's trying to tip-toe around it, but you can tell what he's really getting at). There's a very clear difference between disliking a dog because it has been historically trained for the specific purpose of fighting and maiming, and discriminating against other people and treating them as subhuman for hundreds of years. Seriously, give me a break with this.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
More people may get bet bit goldens but more than half of all deaths from dog attacks are from pits. They're too strong and dangerous to just let any swinging dick go out and buy one IMO.
la flama blanca
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So that dumb cunt was arrested right? I wanna know what her punishment is.
ThankYouDaletech
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hope the dogs aren't put down
The dogs should be put down. You can't fix a broken dog raised by a turd of a person.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
hope the dogs aren't put down
I'm sure they will be, and it's the right call IMO.
MrS
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I hope they are.hope the dogs aren't put down
Rygar 8 Bit
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hope the dogs aren't put down
pretty sure any animal that attacks someone is put down
hope the dogs aren't put down
They are dangerous. they should be put down as fast as possible.
entremet
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hope the dogs aren't put down
They almost killed a man.
C'mon, man.
That owner should be in jail for life IMO. That's attempted murder to me.
MrS
Banned
Right? Some people are being fucking ridiculous.
I wholeheartedly agree.
888
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hope the dogs aren't put down
As a Female Pit owner of 7 years and multiple dog owner since I was a child, I love dogs but I agree with others. People aggression vs Animal aggression are two different things completely. These two showed people aggression. They need to be put to sleep and more than likely since the owner looks to be a pile, she is more than likely why they ended up this way.
Even back in the day when Pits were used for fighting and Bull baiting. They showed aggression to people, they were done.
la flama blanca
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Towards the end of the vid theres a guy walking with a child, what the fuck is wrong with that dude.
The owner had complete control of these dogs.
That's because she ordered the attack.
You're more likely to be bit by a small dog than a large dog (of any breed).
The owner seems to have raised them to be obedient. These dogs didn't just "snap." They attacked on her command.
Dogs were obviously trained. They did what they were told to do.
She could have ordered then to stop, just as easily as she ordered them to attack. This isn't on the dogs. They were doing as told. This is no different than if the owner had just pulled out a gun and started shooting at someone she didn't like. You don't blame the gun.
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