P R O M E T H E U S |OT| Ridley Scott goes back to Building Better Worlds

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Chopper said:
So, the Engineers came to Earth, created humans (which may or may not be depicted in the opening scene), and then fucked off to LV-223 to create/farm/store a shitload of lethal alien goo that they plan on using to kill us (for reasons that aren't made apparent in this movie). And they did this by burying their ships under ground, where they were all killed by their own alien goo? Am I missing something?

Why wasn't the film set on LV-426 so that the Engineer pilot/mysterious pilot from the first film tied in properly? Instead I'm left wondering how an Alien (Xenomorph, the first of which appears at the end of this film, on this planet) can burst from the stomach of an Engineer over on LV-426, as depicted in the first film. Although I did mark out when the pilot chair came out the floor.

Again, if the origins of the Aliens was a giant, human born face hugger raping an Engineer, how was there an image of one on the wall in the goo containment chamber?
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You clearly didn't pay attention.

yes they created humans because they obviously wanted biological weapons. Whether we were those intended weapons or just a giant host farm is left in the dark. They could have also just made us for testing those weapons, but in the end we were an experiment related to war. And my thesis is that the jockeys are in war with other jockeys. That's why they needed something with the same DNA as themselves to test the shit on.

And the image of the alien in the chamber just tells us that the xenomorpb bork from the jockey at the end of the film wasn't the first xeno at all. The stuff is made for to kill other jockeys so of course they know what the final lifeform looks like.

Cynosure said:
RT's falling meter and average rating of 7/10 killing my excitement.
Was hoping Prometheus would be this year's Inception.
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Man I feel sorry for you tools who watch too many trailers and read reviews not after the movie, but before. Have fun crippling your experiences before you even see it yourself. And inception was a piece of shit movie.
 
D.Lo said:
Yeah but no-one loves it. The 'good' reviews say 'good but disappointing'.

Looks like it's still worth seeing but isn't the truly great film it looked from the trailers like it might be. Which sucks.

I made that point in the trailer thread. I wonder if part of it is a deliberate nod to the game series it inspired, which itself tips its hat at Alien a lot (Ridley etc). Because she pretty much looks exactly like Samus' portrayal since Metroid Fusion.
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I loved it, Sciretta from /Film, Billington from FirstShowing, Collider Frosty from Collider loved it, such as others. It's easy to handpick the reactions that suit.

To me, it's an instant classic.
 
kavinsky said:
I think I had said this a month or so ago. It's cool to want answers, but it's a lot better if they don't answer everything. Heck, I didn't even want them to answer anything at all. I wanted another Alien full of mystery and intrigue with no answers but just took you for an amazing ride you'd never forget. But it seems here that a lot of people wanted answers while they also wanted the humanity/realism, and casualness portrayed in Alien. That simply isn't possible. feel as though Ridley realised he had a choice here. Make a prequel that answers everything which would inevitably mean that there would not be any mystery or intrigue. Or answer nothing and make another great Alien, but this would obviously mean that a lot of people would complain of not having received any answers. It seems he decided to take a middle rout here. And he didn't do a bad job with it.
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I hear this mystery argument a lot.

But that's not the problem. The problem is that a lof of the actions and motivations just don't make much sense. There's a difference.
 
dc89 said:
3D or 2D is my next question!
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Coming from someone who hates pretty much all 3D - watch it in 3D. Ridley just makes it works and it actually adds to the experience as opposed to ruining it.

On the topic of 3D, we had trailers for Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter and ASM before the film and the difference in quality between the two was astounding. Vampire Hunter looked like absolute shit 3D-wise and if I was ever to show someone a visual representation of why 3D should go die in a hole, it would be that trailer. Spider-Man actually looked really good but again, Prometheus was on a different level.
 
You have to compare what's comparable, Prometheus is sci fi, Spidey is a superhero movie. The 3D however in Spidey trailer is like nothing no one has ever seen before, the webslinging looks out of this world, word.
 
Weird, I started panicking at the Spiderman trailer, it was so awful. I was really worried that I had to endure 2 hours + of that visual abuse.

Luckily Prometheus was better, the best 3D film yet actually. Still, I would have much preferred to see it in 2D. Somehow it's hard to appreciate a good shot in 3D.
 
every time i see the asm trailer i think the title should be asm: the full-length animated feature.

and actually, it would probably work really awesome if it was completely an animated feature.
 
I am reading user reviews all over the place that give this below an 8/10 and the main critical point I read is that they expected another Alien film. I do not blame them, and it will be a negative for a lot of casual viewers who saw this film being promoted as the guy who directed Alien and Gladiator with full blown action sequences. But, clearly. If anyone reads this thread please do not expect another Alien or Aliens film with dozens of aliens jumping out of corners and marines getting slaughtered. This is a prequel. It will explain the universe and how humans came into contact with them. It is a movie-thinker and I believe that multiple watches are in order for us to fully understand everything.
 
On the subject of 3D, does anyone ever forget they're wearing the glasses then you go to scratch for face, pull your hand away, and send the glasses flying across the room?

Cause I did that.

Twice.
 
Rivyn said:
I am reading user reviews all over the place that give this below an 8/10 and the main critical point I read is that they expected another Alien film. I do not blame them, and it will be a negative for a lot of casual viewers who saw this film being promoted as the guy who directed Alien and Gladiator with full blown action sequences. But, clearly. If anyone reads this thread please do not expect another Alien or Aliens film with dozens of aliens jumping out of corners and marines getting slaughtered. This is a prequel. It will explain the universe and how humans came into contact with them. It is a movie-thinker and I believe that multiple watches are in order for us to fully understand everything.
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Yep! While I do feel the criticisms of some of the dialogue and character development (or lack of) are valid, I honestly don't think the majority of the plot points are. It seems to me like most people just misunderstood a lot of what was explained in the film and a couple of re-watches will help us to understand it more.

People complaining there wasn't enough answers with the new elements the film brings up need to realise Scott always said this film wasn't an 'Alien' film and hopefully it could be the start of a new franchise, I can't wait for the sequel that will answer a lot of our questions. I didn't expect, or want, the first film in a new series to explain everything like the architect scene in The Matrix. The fact that people are discussing the plot etc so much is pretty cool to me!
 
Wilbury said:
I really liked that scene
because it didn't use superfluous dialogue to tell the audience what was happening
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Yeah the following build up was just pure distilled sci-fi nectar for my dry lips. The most emotional scene for me easily. Felt that oh so rare wonder and sense of mysteries during this movie many times...
 
Wouldn't Prometheus, considering its plot, have been better if it had focused on the aliens when they originally arrived on Earth and ended with the Earth shipping arriving at the other planet?
 
Jason Raize '75 - '04 said:
Wouldn't Prometheus, considering its plot, have been better if it had focused on the aliens when they originally arrived on Earth and ended with the Earth shipping arriving at the other planet?
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I don't think so. The movie isn't really about Earth, or even humans. They're just good incubators in the grand scheme of things. And it was best leaving the engineers mysterious.
 
Rivyn said:
I am reading user reviews all over the place that give this below an 8/10 and the main critical point I read is that they expected another Alien film. I do not blame them, and it will be a negative for a lot of casual viewers who saw this film being promoted as the guy who directed Alien and Gladiator with full blown action sequences. But, clearly. If anyone reads this thread please do not expect another Alien or Aliens film with dozens of aliens jumping out of corners and marines getting slaughtered. This is a prequel. It will explain the universe and how humans came into contact with them. It is a movie-thinker and I believe that multiple watches are in order for us to fully understand everything.
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This is just wrong. Perhaps there are some that were expecting something like that. But most are, no doubt, fully aware that Scott directed Alien 1, not 2. And the first Alien was a very slow paced film indeed (Hell, even Aliens allowed the viewers to catch their breath every once in a while). Prometheus is the complete opposite, shit doesn't blow up every 30 seconds, that's true, but the pace is incredibly high, to the point it feels rushed.

It's not a thinking man's sci-fi film either. Stuff that should be explained, isn't, stuff that shouldn't be, is. And then there's the rest of the film that simply doesn't make much sense. It's not like Lindelof is some kind of master of mystery. Writing a half-assed, poorly paced, script that's full of holes, does not a good mystery make.

Do understand that I still liked the movie quite a lot. But that's more to do with the amazing visuals and Scott's direction that still manage to shine through.

Also, the medical pod scene was one of the most intense things I've seen in quite a while.
Makes up for a lot of the film's flaws.
 
IMAX poster been posted yet? Best poster yet, though I could do without the tagline at the top.

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Exclusively for IMAX fans – those attending the Prometheus midnight shows in North America in the first hours of June 8th receive an exclusive, limited edition poster. The never-before-seen artwork teases the mysteries unlocked in Prometheus, and is available as part of IMAX 12:01. Check for list of participating theatres on imax.com; while supplies last.

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Fallout-NL said:
This is just wrong. Perhaps there are some that were expecting something like that. But most are, no doubt, fully aware that Scott directed Alien 1, not 2. And the first Alien was a very slow paced film indeed. Prometheus is the complete opposite, shit doesn't blow up every 30 seconds, that's true, but the pace is incredibly high, to the point it feels rushed.

It's not a thinking man's sci-fi film either. Stuff that should be explained, isn't, stuff that shouldn't be, is. And then there's the rest of the film that simply doesn't make much sense. It's not like Lindelof is some kind of master of mystery. Writing a half-assed, poorly paced, script that's full of holes, does not a good mystery make.

Do understand that I still liked the movie quite a lot. But that's more to do with the amazing visuals and Scott's direction that still manage to shine through.

Also, the medical pod scene was one of the most intense things I've seen in quite a while.
Makes up for a lot of the film's flaws.
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My opinion on it too, the film was disjointed for me and felt like there were things missing that should have been there, I didn't go in expecting another Alien here either.

But it was a good film, not as good as Alien but strong enough to go with the first two of the series.

Looking at it as a whole I think this would have made an excellent TV Series, it would have the time to flesh out the motives and character development and wouldn't need to feel like a 4 hour film packed into 2 hours.
Would also mean not having to wait a few years if they do any more films.
 
Just found out that the movie is shown in the local theaters in glorious 2D, so I don't need to suffer from the 3D nonsense. Wohoo!
 
I was hoping for a Stargate (1994) movie with this but focusing on the Gods lol :( Anyone who remembers the film and the role of Ra will know what I'm talking about
 
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