P R O M E T H E U S |OT| Ridley Scott goes back to Building Better Worlds

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berg ark said:
As I understood it (regarding the issue with the two planets):

There are two different planets, A (in Prometheus) and B (in the original Alien).
Planet A was the main hub and base for the development or storage of these biological weapons. On planet A, the base, there were many different ships with lots of weapons. But they (the creators) were all dead here because the creatures, the weapons, had turned against them. They (the creators) could not finish their mission to kill the humans.

On planet B (the one from the original Alien) there was only one crashed ship. These were the same people onboard it (the creators, which inhabited the base on planet A). But these were also killed, by the creatures this time aswell. There was only one ship on planet B - so my guess is that they had left planet A, the base, to go to Earth with the weapons, to try to kill us. But something had back fired and they had to emergency land/crashed on planet B. Maybe this ship had left planet A before everyone there had died, and then were killed while on their way to Earth.
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I'll quote myself so you guys can see my post on the new page, I just want to be clear I'm not on the wrong tracks. Is this the general view?
 
Wilbury said:
Maybe it was to see the effects it would have before taking it back to Earth? If they took it back to Earth without testing it on the ship beforehand all hell might've broken loose.
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Weren't they meaning to bring the infected Shaw back to Earth anyway though?
Also, I find it hard to believe they'd be willing to risk the whole mission like that... especially considering the big boss himself (Weyland) was on board.


berg ark said:
I'll quote myself so you guys can see my post on the new page, I just want to be clear I'm not on the wrong tracks. Is this the general view?
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That's also how I'd understand it. But
the motivations of the Engineers and the origins of the Alien species still seem fairly muddy to me
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berg ark said:
As I understood it (regarding the issue with the two planets):

There are two different planets, A (in Prometheus) and B (in the original Alien).
Planet A was the main hub and base for the development or storage of these biological weapons. On planet A, the base, there were many different ships with lots of weapons. But they (the creators) were all dead here because the creatures, the weapons, had turned against them. They (the creators) could not finish their mission to kill the humans.

On planet B (the one from the original Alien) there was only one crashed ship. These were the same people onboard it (the creators, which inhabited the base on planet A). But these were also killed, by the creatures this time aswell. There was only one ship on planet B - so my guess is that they had left planet A, the base, to go to Earth with the weapons, to try to kill us. But something had back fired and they had to emergency land/crashed on planet B. Maybe this ship had left planet A before everyone there had died, and then were killed while on their way to Earth.
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Good theory actually,
would account for time in between Alien & Prometheus and the derelict being there.


Jason Raize '75 - '04 said:
They have a machine that performs surgery within minutes, are capable of interstellar travel and, more relevantly, able to examine DNA within seconds; indeed Prometheus in itself is a science vessel. So what would this black liquid do to a human? Rather than David simply taking it to a lab and looking under a microscope, he murders a crewman? Sounds like a scene was mistakenly cut in the editing room because Charlie's murder makes zero sense. And there's nothing to suggest Weyland was involved with that. If anything, he championed Charlie's enthusiasm and shared his cause. If he for some reason wanted this liquid exposed to a human, Charlie wouldn't have been his first choice
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Meh, like I say I don't necessarily think I'm right, but I think considering Charlie was drunk it would have been a hell of a lot easier to get it into him. Weyland seems like he was out for himself and didn't care if anyone dies or not. David is well placed to do this for having no moral compass.

I agree with whoever it was (was it you?) who said that it's jarring that between Shaw's abortion and going into the Jockey pilot room it's barely mentioned, but I think Charlie's death stands up
 
Erigu said:
Weren't they meaning to bring the infected Shaw back to Earth anyway though?
Also, I find it hard to believe they'd be willing to risk the whole mission like that... especially considering the big boss himself (Weyland) was on board.
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That's true about Shaw. Would the cryostasis have also put the foetus into it or would it have given birth anyway? Maybe they were hoping it would kill her during birth and they'd have the creature on board, not knowing what it does?

I don't think they knew the implications of it being on board, but it's very possible (and very likely) it's down to laziness.
 
I almost clicked on the spoiler thread, that was a close call. I should be seeing it tomorrow now with my expectations at 'rational' levels.
 
berg ark said:
As I understood it (regarding the issue with the two planets):

On planet B (the one from the original Alien) there was only one crashed ship. These were the same people onboard it (the creators, which inhabited the base on planet A). But these were also killed, by the creatures this time aswell. There was only one ship on planet B - so my guess is that they had left planet A, the base, to go to Earth with the weapons, to try to kill us. But something had back fired and they had to emergency land/crashed on planet B. Maybe this ship had left planet A before everyone there had died, and then were killed while on their way to Earth.
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But on planet B, what impregnated that Space Jockey? On planet A, it was a space squid that came to be from black goo and a human. If a similar creature can come to be without needing humans, then why weren't there Xenos running around on LV-223 already?
 
Just came back from it. Really enjoyed it although I agree the script was fairly weak in spots.
Magnificent visuals, intense set-pieces and wonderful performances by Fassbender and Rapace.
3D felt very natural, enhanced the already beautiful scenes and avoided gimmicks.
Too many useless side characters who say and do very little.
Asks a lot of questions, doesn't provide all the answers. Sequel has potential.
Connections to Alien were interesting, if not tenuous.

Overall I'd recommend it but I feel if Scott had helped tighten up the script rather than focusing on the visuals it would have helped with a lot of the issues the film has.
 
The Wizard said:
Overall I'd recommend it but I feel if Scott had helped tighten up the script rather than focusing on the visuals it would have helped with a lot of the issues the film has.
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A thousand times yes. You can tell how he's changed from Alien; from control over everything to just taking control of the visual side of things.
 
Recommended to watch in 3D? I assume so given that Scott consistently conveys a great visual sense.

I'm not a big 3D guy, though I'm not against it as a rule. Just don't really have much experience with it; only 3D flick I've ever seen is Avatar. Regret not catching Hugo in the theaters, however (and I heard How To Train Your Dragon was great in 3D as well).
 
I'd say yes as it was filmed in 3d. But if you can't be bothered with it - or don't want to pay the extra, you won't be disappointed either.

If anything I'd like to see it in 2D to get things a bit brighter and more vivid.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Can a mod move that OMG PROMETHEUS SPOILER thread to the Community Forum where it will tempt nobody to click on it?
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Why? The Avengers thread didn't get moved. "Unmarked Spoilers" is in capitals for a reason. Only a stupid person would click on it if they were worried about spoiling themselves.
 
Chopper said:
Why? The Avengers thread didn't get moved. "Unmarked Spoilers" is in capitals for a reason. Only a stupid person would click on it if they were worried about spoiling themselves.
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Zeliard said:
Recommended to watch in 3D? I assume so given that Scott consistently conveys a great visual sense.

I'm not a big 3D guy, though I'm not against it as a rule. Just don't really have much experience with it; only 3D flick I've ever seen is Avatar. Regret not catching Hugo in the theaters, however (and I heard How To Train Your Dragon was great in 3D as well).
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It's the best 3D I've ever seen. Totally comfortable to watch, not overused, added some amazing feelings of genuine depth at times.


I loved the film.
 
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The Wizard said:
Asks a lot of questions, doesn't provide all the answers. Sequel has potential.
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I got the impression that if the film hadn't been padded with useless stuff due to sequel in mind, it might have been a lot tighter and to the point. It may even provide explanation to
The Engineer's motive for doing the whole inviting then unleashing bio weapon
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just a shallow comment about the movie but... there are scenes in the movie where I thought "Charlize looks like Zero Suit Samus... and damn, she'd be kickass in that role".
 
genjiZERO said:
something tells me this is going to be a huge disappointment....
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Imagine the hottest person you've ever seen. They're so hot she makes other people fade in comparison. Imagine it's 30 years later, and that person's child - in this hypothetical situation you don't age so don't call tag on me GAF! - is even hotter. Aesthetically this person is most likely the hottest thing that is ever likely to be created because the miracle has happened twice.

But just before you're about to fuck this person, people start pointing out flaws and you lose your hype. You think they won't live up to the fuck.

And then you fuck. And it's the craziest fuck ever and it makes no sense that the fuck happened and its almost unnecessary. But you're so glad you fucked.

And then it turns out the person you fuck gives birth through their chest.

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Wilbury said:
Imagine the hottest person you've ever seen. They're so hot she makes other people fade in comparison. Imagine it's 30 years later, and that person's child - in this hypothetical situation you don't age so don't call tag on me GAF! - is even hotter. Aesthetically this person is most likely the hottest thing that is ever likely to be created because the miracle has happened twice.

But just before you're about to fuck this person, people start pointing out flaws and you lose your hype. You think they won't live up to the fuck.

And then you fuck. And it's the craziest fuck ever and it makes no sense that the fuck happened and its almost unnecessary. But you're so glad you fucked.

And then it turns out the person you fuck gives birth through their chest.

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Bwah ha ha! This is so fucking accurate. Also, that child looks like Charlize Theron. :)

Seriously, it's all she's good for here.
 
Wilbury said:
Imagine the hottest person you've ever seen. They're so hot she makes other people fade in comparison. Imagine it's 30 years later, and that person's child - in this hypothetical situation you don't age so don't call tag on me GAF! - is even hotter. Aesthetically this person is most likely the hottest thing that is ever likely to be created because the miracle has happened twice.

But just before you're about to fuck this person, people start pointing out flaws and you lose your hype. You think they won't live up to the fuck.

And then you fuck. And it's the craziest fuck ever and it makes no sense that the fuck happened and its almost unnecessary. But you're so glad you fucked.

And then it turns out the person you fuck gives birth through their chest.

P R O M E T H E U S
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This post makes more sense than most of your stuff in the footy thread,
 
Sad to hear the reviews are kind of mixed, but is the general consensus it's of course not as good as Alien but still intelligent, well done and compelling or are we split down the middle at this point?

Also, did the movie really deserve the R rating or was it typical MPAA stupidity?
 
Cynosure said:
RT's falling meter and average rating of 7/10 killing my excitement.
Was hoping Prometheus would be this year's Inception.
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it has an 83% holy fuck people. wow. just wow. keep it up though, it's hilarious.

if you're skeptical, okay, that's probably a good thing but it seems like the worst impressions so far range from meh to "good but not great." not exactly a bad sign IMO.

people put wayyy too much stock into opinions.
 
Wilbury said:
Imagine the hottest person you've ever seen. They're so hot she makes other people fade in comparison. Imagine it's 30 years later, and that person's child - in this hypothetical situation you don't age so don't call tag on me GAF! - is even hotter. Aesthetically this person is most likely the hottest thing that is ever likely to be created because the miracle has happened twice.

But just before you're about to fuck this person, people start pointing out flaws and you lose your hype. You think they won't live up to the fuck.

And then you fuck. And it's the craziest fuck ever and it makes no sense that the fuck happened and its almost unnecessary. But you're so glad you fucked.

And then it turns out the person you fuck gives birth through their chest.

P R O M E T H E U S
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Haahahahaha, i cant wait to see this shit next week!
 
Fry8 said:
I'm trying to avoid spoilers. :)
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Oh, right.
Well, the plot/script is a mess, in my opinion. The movie may look good, but I'd like more interesting/smart science fiction movies to come out, personally, and I wouldn't say that one fits the bill at all. I'm simply not interested in more Prometheus movies, at this point.
 
Erigu said:
Oh, right.
Well, the plot/script is a mess, in my opinion. The movie may look good, but I'd like more interesting/smart science fiction movies to come out, personally, and I wouldn't say that one fits the bill at all. I'm simply not interested in more Prometheus movies, at this point.
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I just said the same thing in the spoiler thread, that I'm really not interested in a sequel at the moment. Which is the one reaction I was not expecting from the film.

It's not clever, it's not smart, it's a mess and a mess that gets in the way of what made Alien so brilliant. Just a very, very beautiful mess.
 
brandonh83 said:
it has an 83% holy fuck people. wow. just wow. keep it up though, it's hilarious.

if you're skeptical, okay, that's probably a good thing but it seems like the worst impressions so far range from meh to "good but not great." not exactly a bad sign IMO.

people put wayyy too much stock into opinions.
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Yeah but no-one loves it. The 'good' reviews say 'good but disappointing'.

Looks like it's still worth seeing but isn't the truly great film it looked from the trailers like it might be. Which sucks.

Altazor said:
just a shallow comment about the movie but... there are scenes in the movie where I thought "Charlize looks like Zero Suit Samus... and damn, she'd be kickass in that role".
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I made that point in the trailer thread. I wonder if part of it is a deliberate nod to the game series it inspired, which itself tips its hat at Alien a lot (Ridley etc). Because she pretty much looks exactly like Samus' portrayal since Metroid Fusion.
 
I think I had said this a month or so ago. It's cool to want answers, but it's a lot better if they don't answer everything. Heck, I didn't even want them to answer anything at all. I wanted another Alien full of mystery and intrigue with no answers but just took you for an amazing ride you'd never forget. But it seems here that a lot of people wanted answers while they also wanted the humanity/realism, and casualness portrayed in Alien. That simply isn't possible. feel as though Ridley realised he had a choice here. Make a prequel that answers everything which would inevitably mean that there would not be any mystery or intrigue. Or answer nothing and make another great Alien, but this would obviously mean that a lot of people would complain of not having received any answers. It seems he decided to take a middle rout here. And he didn't do a bad job with it.
 
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