EatinOlives
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Will release at the same time as the WiiHD.
after the WiiU has launched.
after the WiiU has launched.
Pachter: Xbox 720 will launch at $99.99; have cable TV subscription
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Lion Heart
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I remember when I willingly paid £400 for my PS1 on launch day. If Xbox 720 is the same price, it would not bother me at all. Looking at my old PS1 games and they used to cost me £39.99, current Xbox games cost pretty much the same or cheaper.
I could afford it then and I think I can afford it now. Bring it on Xbox720. Bring it on. Yet tying the console it to some cable/phone subscription or something similar which i'm never going to use would make me not really want the console and I could see others being put off by it. Microsoft are not going to corner their own business from the start.
I could afford it then and I think I can afford it now. Bring it on Xbox720. Bring it on. Yet tying the console it to some cable/phone subscription or something similar which i'm never going to use would make me not really want the console and I could see others being put off by it. Microsoft are not going to corner their own business from the start.
Stealth20k
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from what ive heard the 360 doing this hasnt been ok when sold this way
You can still buy the stand alone version which is probably $399 vs $99 on contract. This is not a new ideal, look at cellphone sales.
Glorified G
Member
My biggest concern is that if the subscription becomes really popular, they'll have no incentive to to drop the price on the "full price" option.
720 costing $499 for most of next gen will suck.
I'm pretty sure this will happen. Doubt the cable TV stuff, though. But yeah, I seriously think the next XBox will require a two year contract.
$599/$99 is my guess.
DeviousAngel
Member
Will buy when it hits $50 
But seriously, a competitive price point (like $299) plus some sort of subscription is possible. It sounds better than $499-599 to the average consumer.
But seriously, a competitive price point (like $299) plus some sort of subscription is possible. It sounds better than $499-599 to the average consumer.
walking fiend
Member
I agree, they tend to usually have longer term visions, right or wrong
Anyhow, I don't see considering how streaming services like Netflix or Amazon videos is becoming popular, Cable TVs being that much of an incentive anyway;
Also, there are two major differences between this and phone plans:
1. Unlike phones, you do not require to have a TV plan to make use of your console
2. Unlike phones, you do not expect to change your console every year or two
What's hard to understand. The part of the world that don't have contract option, only gets the stand alone SKU(s).
There will be options, just like with a cell phone. You can pay the full price up front, which few people do or you can get a subsidized price on contract. At the surface this sounds kind of dumb, but I'm paying for Cable service I hate as is.. so if MS can provide me with a NextBox for $99 + a good cable service...
I will buy it day one, day fucking one. In the end though they will have an option for all consumers, this is MS we're talking about. The king SKUs, accessories and 'options'.
We do that already.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Call me crazy, but I just can't possibly imagine people who already have car loans, house payments, and cell phone payments want to add yet ANOTHER contract.
I can't wait for the misleading commercials.
"Hey, it's only $99!"
I can't wait for the misleading commercials.
"Hey, it's only $99!"
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
none of this sounds far fetched to me. which if even a part of this becomes reality I'm sad for the future of gaming.
people m$ all ready has you paying for online when all other systems are free this seems like the next logical step.
tinfoilhatman
all of my posts are my avatar
EXACTLY
If the pay wall wasn't there I'd watch 100% of my video through the 360, to bad Microsoft has all but abandoned Windows Media Center and the extenders......@ssholes.
charlagame
Member
I could understand a $99 box plus a 2 year, $15 monthly xbox live service that includes a IP tv service, but not a external cable company.
and I'm stuck in a 2 year Direct TV agreement, theres no way this would be apealling to me. and I went satalite to get away from crazy high cable bills in the first place.
and I'm stuck in a 2 year Direct TV agreement, theres no way this would be apealling to me. and I went satalite to get away from crazy high cable bills in the first place.
Seem same to me:
1. Buy stand alone version. Don't require service contract. X720 will have stand alone SKU(s).
2. You don't have to change your cellphone every 2 years. If you do, would require a upgrade charge, hardware and/or fee. Doubtful, Microsoft will change X720 hardware overtime. Maybe, slim version, but that's it.
"Open architecture" and "Microsoft" are not synonymous with each other.
However, I suspect that Microsoft will continue down the subscription model path -- I also wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has their "App Store" become a bit more like Apple's App Store and have non-gaming apps appear on there (like Foursquare or Instagram).
However, I suspect that Microsoft will continue down the subscription model path -- I also wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has their "App Store" become a bit more like Apple's App Store and have non-gaming apps appear on there (like Foursquare or Instagram).
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
You are missing the point, why would I want to pay $500 for a box with half of its design and hardware dedicated for a use I would never take advantage of? Are they going to have a cheaper unit with different hardware just for games?
It is like buying a smart phone and never using data, Wi-Fi or 4g.
Hobbestetrician
Member
So consumers may go to the store thinking the Wii U is just an add-on to the Wii they already have and will be pissed that it isn't and not buy it?
But they will go to the store to get a 720 that requires a cable subscription (or some form of subscription) that they already pay for elsewhere and will buy it in droves?
And I know nearly everyone has canceled their landline telephones and have a mobile plan but that is different because they can now have access to their phone and internet outside the home. Canceling their current cable subscription (or not having one due to whatever reasons) only to immediately sign up for what amounts to a very similar service but through a different box seems like it would not be as quickly adopted.
But they will go to the store to get a 720 that requires a cable subscription (or some form of subscription) that they already pay for elsewhere and will buy it in droves?
And I know nearly everyone has canceled their landline telephones and have a mobile plan but that is different because they can now have access to their phone and internet outside the home. Canceling their current cable subscription (or not having one due to whatever reasons) only to immediately sign up for what amounts to a very similar service but through a different box seems like it would not be as quickly adopted.
I am on cable contract right now. So instead of regular cable contract, I could replace it with a Xbox cable contract. Although I'll would buy the standalone X720, I am sure some people would jump onboard.
phosphor112
Banned
This falls in line with their leaked document from a short while ago, their patent revealed today, and the subsidized 360.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
An HD Wii is a prediction?
Tylahedras
Banned
Yeah obviously if you live outside the US they wouldn't let you buy one, at all. In fact if you attempt to purchase one they charge your credit card and send you a box with feces in it.
What is up with gaf? And how is it not OBVIOUS that they would do this? Do people hate Pachter so much that when he makes obvious statements they attack him?
What is up with gaf? And how is it not OBVIOUS that they would do this? Do people hate Pachter so much that when he makes obvious statements they attack him?
Kinda scary, the discussion we had earlier today in the other thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=148
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=150
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=158
I'm the first to dismiss Pach sometimes, but...
ZombiePlatypus
Member
It's not like they were taking Japan by storm to begin with.
tinfoilhatman
all of my posts are my avatar
Ditto , I'd rather eat a turd than give DirectTV or the cable company a f'ing cent of my money.
If Microsoft can cut the cable\satalite TV's out of the loop and make it cheap(like 20$ a month) then I'd bite but I just don't see this happening, I think this is all nonsense since it doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever for anyone but especially Microshaft.
My initial reaction is no way this is true BUT it does make sense that M$ would be smart to once again get in homes before Sony does. Some sort of a subscription deal would be be very attractive to alot of people. It's just easier to come up with $100 and pay monthly versus $5/600 day one. Sure you can argue just wait to you can afford it but you know how people crave the latest things and kids will beg parents for the hot new toy.
I personally plan to buy the next Xbox console day 1 and will pay full price given a subscription option. I'm planning to cancel my cable tv completely next month if they don't continue our introductory rates. It's set to go up more than 50% of what we pay now, cable tv is a rip-off only got it again after buying house and getting year rates deal.
I personally plan to buy the next Xbox console day 1 and will pay full price given a subscription option. I'm planning to cancel my cable tv completely next month if they don't continue our introductory rates. It's set to go up more than 50% of what we pay now, cable tv is a rip-off only got it again after buying house and getting year rates deal.
jim-jam bongs
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terrible prediction. dude has lost the plot.
television is on the way out, at least in the traditional sit-on-yo-ass-at-prime-time-and-eat-a-bucket-full-of-steamy-shit sense which is represented by cable. I could believe that it would launch with some kind of all-you-can-eat video on demand service with a subscription fee, but it would be better to roll that into Live.
television is on the way out, at least in the traditional sit-on-yo-ass-at-prime-time-and-eat-a-bucket-full-of-steamy-shit sense which is represented by cable. I could believe that it would launch with some kind of all-you-can-eat video on demand service with a subscription fee, but it would be better to roll that into Live.
GodfatherX
Member
they may partner with certain providers for an offer like this, but the traditional model will still be there as well
metalslimer
Member
Depending on how powerful this thing actually is along with the contract price the regular option may be fucking expensive like back to 599 again. Most smartphones these days are around that price off contract
Sexually Aggressive Uncle
Member
As if plunking down 600 bucks for a new console is any better.
If things are that tight then they shouldn't be buying anything like a new videogame system, period.
I for one wouldn't mind at all if Sony and MS adopt a cellphone type contract next gen, infact I'd welcome it.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Even if Microsoft offers a subsidized model, you'll still be able to buy the console without one. Stop freaking out, people...
Speedymanic
Banned
Are those EU services good? Not used Mubi or Vidzone. Isn't Vidzone a music service?
Is the UFC and ESPN stuff available outside the US?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39724486&postcount=134
I seem to be like the old man screaming with his cane in the corner here... but read that.
Read that post first...
Then I ask all of you:
However, what if the "live gold" (or differently-named equivalent) online is... always on and mandatory?