Pachter: Xbox 720 will launch at $99.99; have cable TV subscription
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Glorified G
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fixed
Mubi has some great free movies from time to time but also paid ones, It is actually a good thing
Vidzone has tons of music videos, the quality is not that great but it does the job
it has ads after a few videos but that is not a big deal
The Bookerman
Member
Pachter said:
Stopped reading after that.
But people like freaking out. It's that normal around these parts.
Which is a shame really
In the crazy dark negative universe this happens, it will not take off. Nearly everyone who is going to get this has cable already. Those who don't such as poor college students can't afford such a firm subscription anyways. At least with live you don't have to pay if you don't have the funds.
Pretty much
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Can someone give me a non-joke brief overview of who this Pachter guy is and why he says what he says?
Also, and this isn't a joke either, has he ever been right?
Also, and this isn't a joke either, has he ever been right?
flyinpiranha
Member
Pachter: 720 will only be sold in WalMart in the USA
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kittens
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If true, the console better not be too expensive without subscription. I have ZERO interest in television.
I, for one, chuckle at the idea of having Microsoft overlords.
BTW, how do I get Pachter's job? It can't be too hard. I mean. Make sh*t up. Act all confident about it. Make sure your predications are far enough outside reality to get enough blog headlines to keep you looking relevant. Get drunk with investors and industry insiders. Rinse. Repeat.
I could do that.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
He's a financial analyst for Wedbush who specializes in electronics/video games. I'm sure he's been right about some things. But, he pulls shit like this out of his ass a lot, so he is wrong a lot.
I'm pretty sure he lives off the hate generated by Gaf. That, or he really really sucks at making realistic predictions. I believe he was predicting a WiiHD for like five years.
MadeInBeats
Banned
Not sure how many kids would persuade their parents for a mobile phone like subscription based games console. No.
A $400-$500 console day one or a $200 console with two year subscription would work. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony does something similar.
I wonder if that just has to do with MS offering more features in general, so the gap is wider. Meaning if Sony offered a similar number of features, the gap would be similar. Europe is not easy to provide content for. Just look at how long it took Netflix to be supported over there, and even then it's limited compared to the states.
I wonder if that just has to do with MS offering more features in general, so the gap is wider. Meaning if Sony offered a similar number of features, the gap would be similar. Europe is not easy to provide content for. Just look at how long it took Netflix to be supported over there, and even then it's limited compared to the states.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Or buying a PS3 at launch for $600 and not care about Blu-ray movies?
BassForever
Member
No way this will be the only way to pay for the console or it'll fail with the hardcore audience that made the 360 so successful in the US.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
If I could really get cable TV out of this, meaning enough of the best channels to drop my current cable, I'd definitely buy it. That would be huge depending on the price. I'd need like:
ESPN
AMC
TNT
USA
Spike
Syfy
+a few more
Something like that
ESPN
AMC
TNT
USA
Spike
Syfy
+a few more
Something like that
UberTag
Member
For a Junior, you've picked things up real quick.
Incidentally, I'm sure there will be a XBL subscription price model as well for this system... something which should prove far more palatable to those of us who are cable-averse.
It would be sheer lunacy for someone to think that a cable subscription would be the only way to pick up the X360 successor.
But hey, people like to equate lunacy with Pachter hence the fanciful reactions.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
There is nothing insane about seeing the current 360 subsidized subscription plan and thinking its a test for the pricing plan for their next console. There's basically no other way to look at it.
I just don't understand why microsoft would want to bring the cable providers into it. I've always been under the impression that microsoft wants to be the cable provider of the future. I just don't see what goal Microsoft would serve by getting in bed with the cable providers.
Xbox Live Gold has easily been Microsoft biggest success in their gaming department. You don't just toy around with that cash cow for no good reason, and Pacter never gave a good reason. Hell, can they even really work out a plan where they can get a better deal than the 400 dollar sale + 10 dollars a month that microsoft already gets. Why would cable providers want to give microsoft that much money? What is in it for the cable providers? What's in it for microsoft? Why would those two need eachother? Its not like a portable device where you need it to be everything thanks to pocket space, its a freaking box that stays next to the tv.
Seriously this prediction is sooo far out there that it really deserves an explanation from Pacter or else there really is nothing to say other than that's a really stupid prediction. And no, saying that "microsoft is interested in more than just games" is not enough, this is far beyond simply installing netflix and the like onto the console.
Edit: And it doesn't matter if the traditional option is still there. This still just doesn't make sense.
I just don't understand why microsoft would want to bring the cable providers into it. I've always been under the impression that microsoft wants to be the cable provider of the future. I just don't see what goal Microsoft would serve by getting in bed with the cable providers.
Xbox Live Gold has easily been Microsoft biggest success in their gaming department. You don't just toy around with that cash cow for no good reason, and Pacter never gave a good reason. Hell, can they even really work out a plan where they can get a better deal than the 400 dollar sale + 10 dollars a month that microsoft already gets. Why would cable providers want to give microsoft that much money? What is in it for the cable providers? What's in it for microsoft? Why would those two need eachother? Its not like a portable device where you need it to be everything thanks to pocket space, its a freaking box that stays next to the tv.
Seriously this prediction is sooo far out there that it really deserves an explanation from Pacter or else there really is nothing to say other than that's a really stupid prediction. And no, saying that "microsoft is interested in more than just games" is not enough, this is far beyond simply installing netflix and the like onto the console.
Edit: And it doesn't matter if the traditional option is still there. This still just doesn't make sense.
That's how I see it.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
If this does happen, i won't be the only option.
Though I wonder, maybe we're hearing about this repeatedly because the 720 will be prohibitively expensive?
Though I wonder, maybe we're hearing about this repeatedly because the 720 will be prohibitively expensive?
toadster101
Banned
I'm surprised it's taken so long for this picture to show up.
schwabdizzle
Banned
What a crock of shit.....I doubt anything Pachter is saying.
WAR recon zero
Banned
no xbox for me then since i don't live in the us
if it hasn't already been posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mLjKI968g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mLjKI968g
Risk Breaker
Member
So $99 plus 2 years $60/month contract PLUS Xbox Live.
Microsoft alright. Would do well in the US though, I'm sure.
Microsoft alright. Would do well in the US though, I'm sure.
I have no idea what this has to do with paying per month for a video game console.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I think the odds of the next XBOX being $100 and having a subscription payment plan for 2-3 years is going to be an option. A very successful option at that.
Last Hearth
Member
Since I don't subscribe to cable TV and have no plans to, if this is true I will probably just stick to PC gaming.
Delusibeta
Banned
Since this is Patcher, we can assume the opposite will happen. That said, if Microsoft think that they can charge a mandatory monthly fee to use the box, they can get stuffed.
Its never going to be the same again, dedicated gaming consoles and devices are a thing of the past. I respect your opinion as a consumer, its very valid. However times are changing and changing fast.. multi purpose devices are taking center stage and in the battle for the living room the tactics have to adapt fast in order to be competitive.
You (me, us, GAF) are the vocal minority, the quickly shrinking minority who's opinions and tastes are finally starting to loose its grip. PC gamers felt the sting a few years ago with shift mostly to the console crowd.Now console gamers will feel that same sting as the industry shifts yet again, this time to a social, multi service, cloud based system that can service every kind of consumer out there. Games, applications, media consumption .. you name it, the next Xbox is going to hand deliver all of it on demand, a la cart. A subsidized entry price (ie $99 w/contract) has proven to be beyond successful with the cell phone industry and MS is going to run with it with their next gen. Consumers will probably fall right in line, this pricing model will feel right at home and not confusing at all.
MS wants an Xbox in every household and no longer under the TV of the 18-35 year old male. You are a consumer, no longer the consumer. It will never be the same again, we are old men shaking our fists at the clouds. We are being bred out, drowned out by a younger generation of gamers/consumers who are raised with services like these. They come to expect their devices to do more. With every year more and more of them enter the market and slowly but surely us old timers, us enthusiasts will be drowned out completely and left only to remember the old days of gaming. We are turning into our fathers.
Nothing you or anyone does will change this.