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timetokill
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ScraftyDevil
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STOP RUINING MY FANTASIES ;_;
Second viewing was great for me, personally. I can see how the film loses its luster once you know the outcomes of every scene, but what kept me interested were all the little details. I absolutely love the town built around the Kaiju skeleton.
Your sense of humor seems like it comes from an alien planet.
Pacific Rim and Much Ado About Nothing films are about night and day in terms of tone, script, and giant robot fights.
I honestly expected David Chen to be pretty down on this film, but judging from his recent "Five Ways Pacific Rim Succeeds Where Other Summer Blockbusters Have Failed" (CONTAINS SPOILERS) piece he seems pleased with it:
I'm pretty hyped to listen to the next slashfilmcast now.
I'm pretty hyped to listen to the next slashfilmcast now.
PeakPointMatrix
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Just got back from a packed 12:30 showing. Big fun stupid giant monster movie, with about as much character depth as an episode of DBZ. Loved it. What a special effects bonanza. The value in this movie is in the fights, really delivers. Our theater clapped and cheered at the
Seriously, just sit back and have a good time, you're not going into this for the memorable characters.
Edit: Also, I hope this movie makes bank so all the GAF naysayers eat a nice helping of crow.
sword reveal in space, and the subsequent slicing that followed.
Edit: Also, I hope this movie makes bank so all the GAF naysayers eat a nice helping of crow.
As of right now, I think it's Gipsy Danger, Crimson Typhoon, and Knifehead.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Hopefully seeing it tomorrow. Very excited. Bummer I couldn't see it earlier.
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timetokill
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Saw it in IMAX 3D, no regrets at all. Amazing film visually. Only a couple minor places where the 3D felt "off." Vast majority of the time it looked fantastic.
I've decided to watch it in 3D and I'm the guy that put "DO NOT VIEW IN 3D" in the thread banner.
The east is burning red?
Lionel Mandrake
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For two hours I was 10 years old again. Had a big, stupid smile on my face the whole time.
killertofu
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I've called 4 Toys R Us's and none have it. What's my best bet brick and mortar style? It's raining hard as hell in Florida and I want to play in the rain like a kid again
I just watched it. Overall I loved it. However, some of the characters were just really flat and I'm a little disappointed that
The
fight was so fucking awesome.
It was choreographed so beautifully.
Crimson Typhoon and Cherno Alpha get taken out so quickly.
Hong Kong
It felt as if two actual people were having a fist fight when Gipsy was fighting that fat Kaiju.
Using the tanker as a bat was hype as fuck and I think I came when Gipsy pulled out a sword.
I almost never emote while watching a film (unless I'm sobbing uncontrollably), but there were some legitimate moments where my face was just a big
I love and hate you.
I was already gone by that point, so it was more ongoing joke with friends reaching a boiling point. Also it was a minor complaint, but stems from them looking closer in age than I'd expect a father-son team look. Also the MC and Aussie do look alike, it was weird casting between those three, and its not like any of their performances were blowing anyone off the screen (or even decent) that you had to keep those three. At least get something visually interesting in there.
My complaints were more
Idris's several telegraphed inspirational speeches that weren't inspirational. Main character lacking charisma and acting ability, swagger walking all over the screen the first 40 minutes. Mako's relationship w main character being underdeveloped and not believable. Scientists being embarrassingly unfunny. Perlman a generally joyless, confusing cameo. (see better director-actor cameo: Bruce Campbell in Spider-man)
Australian guy's beef with MC was weird also - "run away like you always do," when did he run away? He worked construction after his brother died and his mech was repaired. He momentarily thought about his brother in a scene where Mako screws up their first drift, yet they have beef. His goodbye with dad nobody cared about because he's never set up as likable. He hates the main character, but they never have a moment of respect, so that's just one of many threads that remains unresolved or dropped entirely in this movie. (see much better rival getting best out of MC: Iceman in Top Gun)
Australian guy's beef with MC was weird also - "run away like you always do," when did he run away? He worked construction after his brother died and his mech was repaired. He momentarily thought about his brother in a scene where Mako screws up their first drift, yet they have beef. His goodbye with dad nobody cared about because he's never set up as likable. He hates the main character, but they never have a moment of respect, so that's just one of many threads that remains unresolved or dropped entirely in this movie. (see much better rival getting best out of MC: Iceman in Top Gun)
I just watched it in 3D, got home 5 minutes ago. 2D was sold out. The 3D is OK. I just wish the story was not quite so generic.
I love del Toro's visual design. The man knows how to make a movie look pretty.
But jeez is the writing really starting to interfere with the product. Way more cringe worthy moments in this, I felt, than his Hellboys.
Still, I enjoyed it. Was surprised that even the Jaeger designs themselves were neat and I only wish we got to see more of them.
But jeez is the writing really starting to interfere with the product. Way more cringe worthy moments in this, I felt, than his Hellboys.
Still, I enjoyed it. Was surprised that even the Jaeger designs themselves were neat and I only wish we got to see more of them.
Futurevoid
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Second viewing was even better than the first. Cemented it as my favorite movie of a rather weak summer despite the flaws. Hong Kong remained ridiculous and completely thrilling. Visually, I don't know how anyone can mistake this for anything other than a Del Toro film. It's lovely and unique and the soundtrack has completely clicked with me. I found myself humming it during some of the scenes.
Great audience there, too. About 3/4 full. They laughed at the right places, actually cheered when
and Ron Perlman got a big laugh when he showed up.
I still lament the missed opportunity in fleshing out Cherno/Crimson.
Oh and something else that really jumped out at me? Mako should have been the main character. Not Becket.
Bring on a Director's Cut Del Toro!
Great audience there, too. About 3/4 full. They laughed at the right places, actually cheered when
Gypsy fell back down to the Earth
I still lament the missed opportunity in fleshing out Cherno/Crimson.
Oh and something else that really jumped out at me? Mako should have been the main character. Not Becket. Bring on a Director's Cut Del Toro!
Becket gains respect from the Australian guy after the fight in Hong Kong. He gives him a look and a nod.
Deified Data
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Neca's got a great line of figures. First wave is Gipsy Danger, Knifehead, and Crimson Typhoon. 2nd wave is still TBA, presumed to include Striker Eureka.
http://necaonline.com/39226/products/toys/action-figures/7-pacific-rim-action-figures-series-1-assortment/
I've called 4 Toys R Us's and none have it. What's my best bet brick and mortar style? It's raining hard as hell in Florida and I want to play in the rain like a kid again
I've seen all 3 available at Suncoast.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
If I don't get a Cherno Alpha figure I will Cherno-Alpha-punch my wall.
Also, what are the chances of ever seeing Pacific Rim model kits? If the movie is successful in Japan would that be a possibility?
a secret-boss
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I'm waiting for Series 2 of Neca action figures which contains Stryker Eureka (confirmed) and hopefully Cherno
they will also have an 18" Gypsy in August
i agree, but I doubt the studios were willing to add more to the production budget. Doing CGI scenes in broad daylight is expensive and difficult. The Industrial Light & Magic team that did the primary effects for Pacific Rim also worked on Star Wars (episodes 1 - 3) as well as the Pirates of the Caribbean film franchise. The computer / Jaeger UI elements plus background (i.e., set dressing) CGI stuff was done by another special effects house.
StalkerUKCG
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Striker Eureka, Cherno Alpha, Leatherback and Otachi will most likely be wave 2.
djplaeskool
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You could recast all the humans in Pacific Rim 2 and nobody would be bothered. Name another major blockbuster you could do that with, not even Shia from Transformers could be removed that easily without complaint. I guess that's the beauty to some people. If there
, that wouldn't have been as much of a problem. Just one well done character would have elevated this a lot. (Depp in Pirates)
wasn't an hour gap between the first fight and second nearly
The Australian guy is angry at him because the failures of previous Jaeger pilots like him were what cut the support for the Jaeger program. Australian guy's also just kinda an asshole; he is obviously based on Iceman, after all. The comment about running away was based on how MC left the Jaeger program instead of continuing to pilot machines.
Prometheus, Avatar, Transformers (They recast Megan Fox in the sequel and nobody cared), The Incredible Hulk, Wolverine: Origins, Man of Steel...
It's strange how you think Pacific Rim's issues are unique for a summer blockbuster.
ScraftyDevil
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Series 2 has been confirmed as Striker, Leatherback and
Battle-Damaged Gipsy Danger.
He didn't even have another pilot, and there's nobody unrelated in the film besides him and Mako.
Where is Megan Fox?
You think that matters to Striker Eureka's pilot? All he cares about is that
the main character fucked up and got a jaeger wrecked, and that's part of the string of failures that cut support for the Jaeger program.
Mako and MC's bond is just mutual friendship and respect. Not sure how the film didn't communicate that.
It's fucking hilarious that he chose Transformers as an example because they actually did replace one of the main cast members with no fanfare.
Prometheus is the only one you can recast everyone (which was the important stipulation) without complaint, and people hated that for that reason. Avatar 2 isn't making bank if Sully is out of the film, but its closer. You can't take Hulk, Superman, or Hugh Jackman (who is Wolverine to audiences) out of their respective films without huge audience reaction. This film you can replace the jaegers, kaiju, all the humans with different ones and it would be totally fine. The "characters" are totally replaceable. The art style is more essential than the characters.
killertofu
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UGHHHH I CALLED EVERYWHERE I NEED THESE TOYS NOW.
Seriously how are these not being sold at every toys r us and Walmart?!?
Seriously how are these not being sold at every toys r us and Walmart?!?
Deified Data
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What's unbelievable about forming an intense bond with someone you drift with?
Chuck was concerned that the Jaeger pilot being tasked with protecting Striker had spent the last 5 years working on the Kaiju wall instead of honing his skills. Chuck viewed Beckett's withdrawal after the death of his brother to be "running away". Chuck acknowledged his respect of Beckett after Beckett successfully repels both Otachi and Leatherback in Hong Kong.
Honestly, all of these scenes were pretty straightforward, I'm not sure how you missed it. It's not my job to convince you to like the movie, but it's best not to make criticisms of a movie that you didn't entirely pay attention to. You should probably head to the spoiler thread if you have any other plot points you need explained.
How much a movie makes you believe they did exactly that on screen? It's less about being able to explain things, and more about how well were those stories told.
StalkerUKCG
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That's a shame, I'll skip BD Gipsy. Striker and Leatherback are a must. Hope we get a Wave 3 with Cherno Alpha then.
What are you talking about? Of course you can't take Hulk or Superman out of their films because then they wouldn't be Hulk or Superman films. The actors that play hulk and superman get changed almost yearly, same with spiderman too. What about Don Cheedle being in IronMan 2 but not 1. Do you honestly think people cared about Sully in avatar? He was one of the most generic heroes I've seen.
Leatherback is my favorite Kaiju, so I'm hoping NECA does a good job with its figure.
Nobody gives a fuck about Jake Sully. The only actor in the movie that people care about was Sigourney Weaver, and her character is deader than dead.
The entire cast of Man of Steel has no charisma or personality, Superman least of all. This isn't a Christopher Reeves situation.
I'll admit I forgot Hugh Jackman... But it's because of his popularity from previous movies, not because of the actual quality of his character or performance in Wolverine: Origins. Hugh Jackman is one hell of a talented actor, but virtually everyone else in that movie is replaceable (And several of them are replacement actors for returning characters).
A movie like Man of Steel can't work without Superman; it's focused on one character. A movie like Pacific Rim is focused on a conflict and on multiple characters, so no one character is the draw of the film. A Man of Steel sequel needs Superman, while a Pacific Rim sequel just needs the setup of Jaegers vs Kaiju.
It has nothing to do with the quality of the individual characters and everything to do with the structure of the movie.
(Gender is difficult with Kaiju, although I guess all of them would be female because they all come from the same genetic stock)
All Avatar 2 has to do to make bank is show photorealistic blue cat people.
Nobody gives a fuck about Jake Sully. The only actor in the movie that people care about was Sigourney Weaver, and her character is deader than dead.
They did replace Hulk. Twice. The only Hulk that people enjoyed was the one in the Avengers.
The entire cast of Man of Steel has no charisma or personality, Superman least of all. This isn't a Christopher Reeves situation.
I'll admit I forgot Hugh Jackman... But it's because of his popularity from previous movies, not because of the actual quality of his character or performance in Wolverine: Origins. Hugh Jackman is one hell of a talented actor, but virtually everyone else in that movie is replaceable (And several of them are replacement actors for returning characters).
You seem to be confused; you were talking about casting previously, now you're talking about characters.
A movie like Man of Steel can't work without Superman; it's focused on one character. A movie like Pacific Rim is focused on a conflict and on multiple characters, so no one character is the draw of the film. A Man of Steel sequel needs Superman, while a Pacific Rim sequel just needs the setup of Jaegers vs Kaiju.
It has nothing to do with the quality of the individual characters and everything to do with the structure of the movie.
Casting =/= characters.
Pacific Rim's story was never about one person either, it was about 3 things coming together: humanity as a whole to fend off an alien attack, giant mechs, giant monsters. They were never trying to set up an iconic figure like Hulk or Superman, or even Godzilla that was the end all, be all of the movie universe.
dreamcastfan
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Is it just me, or did this movie have the BEST special effects so far? I was in awe the entire time. Nothing yanked me out of the illusion.
Deified Data
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Why...? So basically we won't be getting a Cherno figure.
forgeforsaken
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There has to be an Otachi figure too.
PorkChopSandwiches
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