PAL Charts - Week 46, 2010

Nirolak said:
Mario Kart Wii is at about 23 million and Modern Warfare 2 was over 20 million as of about six months ago.

If Black Ops will reach that high is still questionable though.
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MW2 needed 3 systems to reach that number though.

Honestly nothing, on a single system, will get as high as MKWii/WiiFit/NSMBW

As for Epic Mickey, I was told by friends that there were no advertising in the UK (just like there's absolutely zero marketing in Canada)
 
szaromir said:
And...? A game is a game, it's virtually the same across the platforms. And it needed like 6 months to reach that number, too.
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And it still needed 3 systems to achieve it.

The odds of MW2 beeing system exclusive and reaching 20 million is nill.
 
I don't know why anyone would expect GT5 to sell more then what it did first week.

There was zero marketing in the UK, no one but die hards knew it was even released.
 
UK CHARTS: Black Ops back on top
Here’s the UKIE GfK Chart-Track All Formats Top Ten in full (for the week ending December 4th):
1. Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision)
2. FIFA 11 (EA)
3. Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
4. Gran Turismo 5 (Sony)
5. Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
6. Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft)
7. Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (EA)
8. Wii Party (Nintendo)
9. Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
10. Professor Layton and the Lost Future (Nintendo)
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http://www.mcvuk.com/news/42121/UK-CHARTS-Black-Ops-back-on-top

The top 5 is most likely going to be the biggest titles this holiday.
 
CozMick said:
That chart is all formats combined for each game right?

So Black Ops being number 1 is Wii, PS3 and 360 combined?
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Yes their also individual charts but that is released later today.
Suzzopher said:
Fucks sake Britain >:( Nintendo try to give us nice things and you don't them!!!
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Revenge for Kirby delay
yeah I want every nintendo game to do well also :(
Purchased the game day 1.
 
PS3 ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (-61%) drops from No1 to No4 after huge week 1 sales and actually remains the biggest seller in terms of individual SKU’s for a second successive week.
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Pretty impressive then
 
New UK charts:
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

It’s a return to business as usual for Activision Blizzard’s ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops’ (-6%), up from No2 to take a 3rd week at No1 on the Entertainment Software All Formats Top 40 after the ‘GT5’ effect last week.

EA’s ‘FIFA 11’ moves up 2 places to No2 (+7%), Ubisoft remain at No3 with ‘Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood’ (-27%) and Sony’s aforementioned PS3 ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (-61%) drops from No1 to No4 after huge week 1 sales and actually remains the biggest seller in terms of individual SKU’s for a second successive week. It’s a Nintendo Wii week overall as Wii software units outsell all other formats for the first time since Easter back in week 14, 2010. Aside from Ubisoft’s ‘Just Dance 2’ for Wii selling more as the weeks go by (No5 / +12%), Ubisoft’s ‘Michael Jackson: The Experience’ climbs from No32 to No6 (99% Wii / +401%) and Nintendo’s ‘Wii Party’ is at No8 (-0%) with ‘Wii Fit Plus’ climbing 4 places to No9 (+90%). Also helping to propel Wii software to the top of the heap are the only 2 new releases within the Top 40 this week – Nintendo’s ‘Donkey Kong Country Returns’ at No13 and ‘Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary’ at No22.
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Sly Trilogy only made #28 on the PS3 software chart. Thats baaaad man :( and pretty damning to the whole HD Classics thing they have (i think PoP Trilogy did just as bad too)
 
Roxas said:
Sly Trilogy only made #28 on the PS3 software chart. Thats baaaad man :( and pretty damning to the whole HD Classics thing they have (i think PoP Trilogy did just as bad too)
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No-one bought Sly when it was first released so I didn't understand the reasoning behind the HD "redo"

Such a wasted Jak and Daxter HD trilogy opportunity!
 
Roxas said:
Sly Trilogy only made #28 on the PS3 software chart. Thats baaaad man :( and pretty damning to the whole HD Classics thing they have (i think PoP Trilogy did just as bad too)
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Poor Sly :( Hopefully word of mouth and christmas help it out a bit, but i guess it wasn't a massive hit in the first place
 
TheDrowningMan said:
Donkey Kong, Mario, Sonic, Mickey all heavily outsold by that Michael Jackson game. Oh dear.
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Give DKCR time - I think it could have a nice holiday season. Nice to see Mickey at least holding on. I finally saw a set of TV ads for it just the other day, and it would be good if it benefited from the holiday bump and a slow burn - unlikely to do anything significant now, but avoiding mega-bomba status would be good.
 
Cosmonaut X said:
Give DKCR time - I think it could have a nice holiday season. Nice to see Mickey at least holding on. I finally saw a set of TV ads for it just the other day, and it would be good if it benefited from the holiday bump and a slow burn - unlikely to do anything significant now, but avoiding mega-bomba status would be good.
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Well, Epic Mickey went from #39 to #38, so it'd probably be... quite the slow burn to not be a mega-bomba.
 
Nirolak said:
Well, Epic Mickey went from #39 to #38, so it'd probably be... quite the slow burn to not be a mega-bomba.
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Yes, I know :lol Given that the hard figures down that low in the charts are probably in four digits, I'm not expecting much but any improvement is a (relatively) hopeful sign.
 
Roxas said:
Sly Trilogy only made #28 on the PS3 software chart. Thats baaaad man :( and pretty damning to the whole HD Classics thing they have (i think PoP Trilogy did just as bad too)
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Sands of Time is on PSN though...I wonder if they'll do the same for the Sly games? It would seem to be the most natural method of selling these high-res oldies.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Wii Party got off to a slow start and then bounced back up. DKC could do the same thing.

Don't count it out just yet.
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Thinking about it, Donkey Kong's sales do bring up an interesting point however.

I feel it's notable that most of Nintendo's revival efforts haven't been going so well lately. Kirby, Metroid, Punch Out, Sin & Punishment, Excitebots, and now possibly Donkey Kong as well.

2D Mario would be the real stand out exception here, but Nintendo never let the brand as a whole languish on consoles.
 
Nirolak said:
Thinking about it, Donkey Kong's sales do bring up an interesting point however.

I feel it's notable that most of Nintendo's revival efforts haven't been going so well lately. Kirby, Metroid, Punch Out, Sin & Punishment, Excitebots, and now possibly Donkey Kong as well.

2D Mario would be the real stand out exception here, but Nintendo never let the brand as a whole languish on consoles.
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None of Nintendo's previous consoles sold anything at all in the UK. Stuff like Punch Out has very little resonance.

Image is a bit out of date, but still illustrative (for EU as a whole):

Wii_EU
 
Oxx said:
None of Nintendo's previous consoles sold anything at all in the UK. Stuff like Punch Out has very little resonance.
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That's not entirely true. They all sold decently, but were always #2 (until GameCube which ended up in third place). I'm almost certain that the SNES came closest to its opposition, although the Mega Drive definitely captured the zeitgeist in this country and won pretty comfortably. Perhaps that's slanted due to my own experience though...I think I must have sold three or four SNES consoles to Master System / Mega Drive within six months or me getting one. It's nice being first with a new, powerful console when you're 9 years old. :)

Edit: I see you have a chart! Got one for the SEGA consoles, out of interest?
 
TheDrowningMan said:
That's not entirely true. They all sold decently, but were always #2 (until GameCube which ended up in third place). I'm almost certain that the SNES came closest to its opposition, although the Mega Drive definitely captured the zeitgeist in this country and won pretty comfortably. Perhaps that's slanted due to my own experience though...I think I must have sold three or four SNES consoles to Master System / Mega Drive within six months or me getting one. It's nice being first with a new, powerful console when you're 9 years old. :)

Edit: I see you have a chart! Got one for the SEGA consoles, out of interest?
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No idea of the Sega numbers.

Nintendo had their moments in Europe and their handhelds were always fairly strong, but attempting to play to 80s and 90s nostalgia is going to be less effective in Europe than in the US or Japan.
 
Cosmonaut X said:
I still think it's worth waiting until next week's charts on this - anecdotal evidence here and elsewhere suggests EM might not have been too widely available, and it may benefit from better distribution and the typical Wii second-week-bounce. Wouldn't hold my breath though.

The only thing I can come up with is that the game looked too much like "Mature Mickey" on first glance and didn't leap out at the Wii audience in the same way a more traditional Mickey game might have done?
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I think it got stuck between two larger demos and didnt just go with one. The only people it really seems to be targeting are animation enthusiasts.
 
Dabanton said:
If Epic Mickey was multi format, why do i suspect that some of the the people asking for it to be released on 360/PS3 wouldn't even get it on launch day and would wait for it to be cheaper. That's if they get it at all.

The situation reminded me of seeing how many people raved about Vanquish and yet were holding out on getting it until it was going for cheap, shows me a lot of people are all talk when moaning about limited game choices and no action when it's time to man up and show that we do support good games.
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Or maybe its time pubs started pricing shit better. They basically killed the mid ranged title.
 
Oxx said:
No idea of the Sega numbers.

Nintendo had their moments in Europe and their handhelds were always fairly strong, but attempting to play to 80s and 90s nostalgia is going to be less effective in Europe than in the US or Japan.
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Oh yeah, undoubtedly. There's no question that Sonic remained a more consistent draw here than did Mario until the Wii came along and turned everything on its head. I recall the original Donkey Kong Country selling well (although obviously not in Sonic-esque numbers), but I think the second and third sunk without trace relative to their performance elsewhere.
 
HK-47 said:
Or maybe its time pubs started pricing shit better. They basically killed the mid ranged title.
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you're saying this like they know some magic to reduce development costs. High costs = high-prices = no mid-range titles.
 
HK-47 said:
Or maybe its time pubs started pricing shit better. They basically killed the mid ranged title.
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Yeah, in a $60 only market, you can't really launch smaller titles and hope for much success.

People were jabbing EA in the other thread for shifting from 70 games a year to 25 games a year, but who wants to release 45 Vanquishes?

subversus said:
you're saying this like they know some magic to reduce development costs. High costs = high-prices = no mid-range titles.
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They can reduce development costs quite easily.

It's convincing people to buy a $30 title with $30 production values and content that's the problem.
 
Bit of a disappointing entry for DK but it'll move up the charts and be around for a while. The adverts are actually bearable too for a Wii game.

Epic Mickey hanging on but no noticable improvement. Shame about Sly, but expected. I haven't picked it up yet though.
 
DK was only on sale for the last two days of that week. I expect to see it at a better position next week.

Edit: And there was actually a pretty big Nintendo presence in Sweden during the NES and SNES days. Actually, I didn't even hear of the Master System until years after the Mega Drive was out here. No one I knew had one, and everyone I knew were REALLY into games at the time. The Mega Drive was a bit more popular, most people I knew had one. At least until the SNES came out. People saying that UK = Europe need to get a clue.
 
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