titiklabingapat
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Hey any of you guys on the paleo diet but also travel so much for work, how do you guys do it?
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Paleo Diet 101: How and why you should eat like a Caveman
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Five Guys has burger bowls and lettuce wraps (I get it with bacon and veggies). Jimmy John's has lettuce wraps (I get the Beach Club which comes with avacado). Chipotle burrito bowls (no rice/beans, the pork is the safest meat because it is not cooked in soybean oil, and I get guacamole plus sour cream and cheese if you eat dairy).
Those are by far the safest fast food joints I've found. If you need absolute fast food, I'm pretty sure Wendy's uses burgers that are pure beef with only salt added, so they might be the safest of the true fast food.
If traveling in the US I go to Whole Foods a lot cause of the salad/prepared food section. Lots of places have things like Cobb salads or just meat/fish and vegetables. Hell you can go to Panda Express and get something like beef and broccoli with a side of vegetables. You can't ever be perfect so no reason to stress out about things like a little less fat or to much salt.
yeah I had bread for the first time in weeks this morning. Had a fried egg sandwich using garlic bread. I did use my kerrygold garlic herb butter that I made myself and it tasted awesome but yeah, I've been feeling like shit for the past few hours.
Hypereides
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I live in Denmark. The common price for regular cooking oils here range from 20 - 40 DKK (thats approx 3,54$ - 7,09$ canadian dollars by todays currency exchange). I bought 2 with 250 ml, for 20 DKK (3,54$) each. Although I found a different shop that sells them for 18 DKK (3,19$).
I did find a special alternative coconut oil 400 ml, for 95 DKK (16,83$) in the organic department at my local super market. Thats quite expensive so I'll probably stick to the ones I can buy at the small exotic/middeleastern grocery stores that are around here.
Denmark is generally a pretty expensive country to live in, I don't know if my estimated canadian price is "high" or "low" for the product compared to the price in Canada?
There's a new post about red meat by David Colquhoun, who I've linked to before, for anyone that's interested. He mentions the carnitine study. (bold emphasis is mine)
http://www.dcscience.net/?p=5935
Last line is a bit of a cheap shot, IMO, but it's worth knowing - they are actively looking to establish a link because they have financial interests in diagnostic tools.
http://www.dcscience.net/?p=5935
Last line is a bit of a cheap shot, IMO, but it's worth knowing - they are actively looking to establish a link because they have financial interests in diagnostic tools.
reggieandTFE
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I can't comment on any of these articles with any authority but that Colquhoun guy seems to be a bit of a hack just from looking at his 'blog'. The apology he had to make to the one cancer researcher alone is brutal.
Nah, he's legit - tenured professor in
have you discovered it sauteed with bacon and some fresh lemon juice?
I like red kale a lot better than green. You can sautee it in coconut milk and add coconut flour and make like a weird curry dish kinda thing.
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so we sell ostrich eggs at whole foods now. I might pick one up next week, my last day I get %40 discount, each one is $40. The only problem is, they're HUGE, equal to 25-30 eggs, what am I gonna do with all that
Two thousand calories? This is truly the hedonist's choice for acquiring mass.
Whoa......but I kinda like the bacon idea! I have bacon grease saved right now that I wanted to use. Sauteing kale in bacon grease seems like a no brainer. What spices would you guys recommend? I only have basil, rosemary, thyme, pepper, and garlic salt.
Have me over for breakfast.
I gave up bacon and other salty processed meats :/
I did fry it with coconut oil and spinach and garlic powder today. Put it on top of chicken. I'll report later how it tastes.
Follow up to this post. It's now been few days since I took off potatoes and lactose-free butter from my menu since it seemed that they didn't help with my quest to get rid of asthma. Though I'm not sure if they were to blame for my intermittent asthma symptoms or something else. It is springtime and there's a lot of dust outside from all the gravel they been spreading all winter so there's that too.
The problem is that I really miss my baked potatoes drenched in delicious (lactose-free) butter. Sweet potatoes roasted in oil really don't taste nearly as good. What to do, what to do..?
it'll probably be slightly bitter. that's usually why i add a pinch of sugar (won't kill you) and some acid to brighten it up.
I actually didn't get any bitterness! Tastes great and blended in well with the spinach. Kale, spinach, broccoli and brussel sprouts are my bros.
EverythingShiny
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Hey paleo-GAF.
Long story short, I was referred to a dietitian a few weeks ago. She put me on a primal diet (I can have plain yogurt and cheese, although I barely eat any at the moment) and I've been following the diet for about 2 weeks. She believes I may have SIBO so no starches, sugar, or grains for me.
I've been really good about following the diet, but I'm not feeling any better; in fact, my GI issues have gotten worse. I keep reading about how much better people feel after starting to eat paleo, but I'm still feeling like crap and it's a bit frustrating. Has this happened to anyone else just starting this diet? How long was it before you started feeling better?
Long story short, I was referred to a dietitian a few weeks ago. She put me on a primal diet (I can have plain yogurt and cheese, although I barely eat any at the moment) and I've been following the diet for about 2 weeks. She believes I may have SIBO so no starches, sugar, or grains for me.
I've been really good about following the diet, but I'm not feeling any better; in fact, my GI issues have gotten worse. I keep reading about how much better people feel after starting to eat paleo, but I'm still feeling like crap and it's a bit frustrating. Has this happened to anyone else just starting this diet? How long was it before you started feeling better?
franknbeans
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I'm dealing with SIBO too. I felt bad for about 2 weeks. I had terrible stomach cramps in the beginning. Look into the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. Its very similar to Paleo. I've been on the Paleo/Specific Carbohydrate Diet for about 8 weeks and I'm now starting to see some improvement. You may find that you are now sensitive to foods that you weren't sensitive to before you started the diet. Dairy, eggs, nuts, and foods high in natural sugar. I've had to eliminate all four in order to start feeling better. Probiotics help a lot. Look for one that doesn't contain a strain starting with bifid. I found out the hard way that the bifid strains tend to overgrow themselves. Giprohealth.com has alot of supplements approved for the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I just started taking their acidophilus probiotic last week. The diet will kill off the bad bacteria, but you got to replace them with good bacteria to start feeling better.
I've allowed them back in because I'm so skinny, and I feel so much better. Like, I feel like I needed to do that. I also eat things cooked in butter.
I still have about 1-2 cheat meals a week, but they aren't super bad or anything. I'm not as strict as I was at first, but I'm still pretty strict, I guess. Although budget and time have led me to eating FAR too many eggs and bacon meals. I really need to change that.
Also, I pretty much can't poop properly, guys. Been trying to eat things with fiber that aren't grains, and I'm failing miserably. I seriously don't know what to do. Also, I keep having random SEVERE stomach cramps where I've been doubled over in pain. Comes really fast, lasts 1-2 hours, then leaves just as fast. First time it happened I went to urgent care with basically no diagnosis because pain was gone by the time the doctor saw me. Could this be from introducing rice and potatoes back? Any help would be appreciated.
Can you describe the pain more? Is it more in your upper stomach, sternum area? I had the same problem, ended up having to get my gallbladder taken out after SERIOUS attacks I was having.
Sure. It's like sharp pains or "cramping" that I've never really felt before. It also feels like something really sharp is moving through my intestines, almost. I occasionally have gas and stuff too. I'm starting to think it might be constipation? I'm using g the restroom but....man....it's tough to have a bowl movement. And extremely unpleasant. I'm thinking these problems are related, maybe? The pain is mostly all in my lower abdomen.
Also, it's funny you mention that about the gal bladder. My mother just recently had to have hers removed. The doctors said it is caused by eating a lot of greasy foods, and her last "attack" happened after a big burger. My first episode of these cramps happened after a Paleo Chipotle meal with a lot of fats.
Could the fat be causing this? Also, my stool is very floaty, making me think my body just isn't using the fat.
I truly think I'm not eating correctly. I'm definitely doing something wrong.
I microwave sweet potatoes at work. Delicious.
cross-posting from fitness thread....
Nice recipe if you allow some dairy in your Primal/Paleo diet
Chicken breast...score it with a knife
Tandoori Paste (can usually be bought in a jar)
Fat Free yogurt (which I prefer anyway because it's more acidic and tenderizes the chicken better, fat also burns more on the grill)
Follow instructions on tandoori jar to find the right ratio of paste to yogurt, mix, marinate chicken for 4 to 24 hours.
Grill.
Eat like a fucking king.
Nice recipe if you allow some dairy in your Primal/Paleo diet
Chicken breast...score it with a knife
Tandoori Paste (can usually be bought in a jar)
Fat Free yogurt (which I prefer anyway because it's more acidic and tenderizes the chicken better, fat also burns more on the grill)
Follow instructions on tandoori jar to find the right ratio of paste to yogurt, mix, marinate chicken for 4 to 24 hours.
Grill.
Eat like a fucking king.
woo and indeed hoo
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Has anyone ever made their own pasta with Paleo friendly flour?
I was listening to something earlier and they recommended to cut out all added salt as there is enough salt in the food we eat anyway. However, if one is 'Paleo' then one won't be eating the sort of processed foods that contain all that added salt, yes?
So what say you Paleo GAF? Should I still add salt into my diet or does 'Paleo' food have salt in it anyway and I'm just not aware of it so I don't need to add any in?
I was listening to something earlier and they recommended to cut out all added salt as there is enough salt in the food we eat anyway. However, if one is 'Paleo' then one won't be eating the sort of processed foods that contain all that added salt, yes?
So what say you Paleo GAF? Should I still add salt into my diet or does 'Paleo' food have salt in it anyway and I'm just not aware of it so I don't need to add any in?
EverythingShiny
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I'm sorry to hear you've been dealing with it too. Thanks for the suggestions - I'll definitely look into the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have a follow up appointment with my dietitian next week, so I'll bring these issues up with her.
So you completely eliminated fruit from your diet? I'm a little worried about having to eliminate even more, since I'm having a hard time adjusting to already eating such a limited diet compared to what I used to eat. But if it'll make me feel better, I'm all for it.
Did anyone prescribe you antibiotics? I did the hydrogen breath test for SIBO (that was a terrible, terrible test) and if it comes back positive, my dietitian said she'd start me on a round of antibiotics to help kill the bacteria.
franknbeans
Member
I've eliminated fruit for now. I'm pretty much down to meats and all types of vegetables. I suspect that i've had SIBO for some time now and my digestive system is in pretty bad shape. I figured it would be best to keep my diet simple with food that I can handle so that my body can heal. Eventually I can add fruit, raw honey, and dark chocolate down the road. The only food that I am really bummed out about is eggs. They are cheap and so versatile.
My docs never proscribed probiotics. I went through all types of other tests that all came back negative. I tried about 4 different probiotics which all contained a bifid strain. My SIBO was out of control last summer and I couldn't figure out why. It wasn't until recently that I found out that bidid strains make SIBO worse.
I took peppermint oil supplements last year which helped, but cutting out sugar,starches, grains, etc..have helped the most so far.
Well, I just went a little crazy. Last day at Whole Foods, team member appreciation day so we get 40 percent off.
My receipts lol
Just a very small taste of what I got..
I've been dying to try Cashew butter [without added oils] and Pecan butter forever, they're so damn expensive though, so I figured no better time than now. And I've never had tahini before, very curious to see what it's like. Picked up some wild caught sword fish, which I've never had. And tons of nuts, frozen veggies, dark chocolate, bacon, meat, ect. It was a good way to go out
My receipts lol
Just a very small taste of what I got..
I've been dying to try Cashew butter [without added oils] and Pecan butter forever, they're so damn expensive though, so I figured no better time than now. And I've never had tahini before, very curious to see what it's like. Picked up some wild caught sword fish, which I've never had. And tons of nuts, frozen veggies, dark chocolate, bacon, meat, ect. It was a good way to go out
Urban Scholar
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Yeah so I'm nearing a month next week. I'll report the experience in more detail than
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Well, I just went a little crazy. Last day at Whole Foods, team member appreciation day so we get 40 percent off.
My receipts lol
Just a very small taste of what I got..
I've been dying to try Cashew butter [without added oils] and Pecan butter forever, they're so damn expensive though, so I figured no better time than now. And I've never had tahini before, very curious to see what it's like. Picked up some wild caught sword fish, which I've never had. And tons of nuts, frozen veggies, dark chocolate, bacon, meat, ect. It was a good way to go out
I just got my 2nd jar of that Ghee. It's great stuff.
I wish I got more Ghee actually, shit is expensive. The coconut oil was on sale, and I got the 40% in addition to that, it was half off basically, or probably more, could get more of that too.
Ghee is for cooking anything at high heat when you want a butter-y taste. I use it mostly for meat. Last night I did sausage and peppers in ghee, fucking delicious! Stir-frying veggies is really good too. I love coconut oil, but I don't want coconut flavored meat. I do have refined coconut oil for a non-coconuty taste, but the ghee! The ghee is just too damn tasty, I love it. Eggs in ghee. Bacon. Lobster and ghee is pretty common. Basically, ghee is awesome, get it.
Ghee is for cooking anything at high heat when you want a butter-y taste. I use it mostly for meat. Last night I did sausage and peppers in ghee, fucking delicious! Stir-frying veggies is really good too. I love coconut oil, but I don't want coconut flavored meat. I do have refined coconut oil for a non-coconuty taste, but the ghee! The ghee is just too damn tasty, I love it. Eggs in ghee. Bacon. Lobster and ghee is pretty common. Basically, ghee is awesome, get it.
I use it for meat/seafood...
I should try ghee sometime. I never have yet. I did stock up on coconut oil though, love that stuff.
I tried paleo brownies today, terrible lol. I had a banana nut muffin though and that was pretty good. Still though, stuff like that I feel like it's kinda like why bother, go for the real thing made with butter, sugar, flour etc from scratch and it's just as good. As long as I avoid the commercial super sugar, preservative and whatever else filled crap.
I tried paleo brownies today, terrible lol. I had a banana nut muffin though and that was pretty good. Still though, stuff like that I feel like it's kinda like why bother, go for the real thing made with butter, sugar, flour etc from scratch and it's just as good. As long as I avoid the commercial super sugar, preservative and whatever else filled crap.
I can make some pretty awesome paleo cookies/brownies, it takes some time getting used to the ingredients. My first few attempts were terrible too.
So tahini is...not very good! The taste isn't terrible but holy shit is it strong. I guess if you love seseame seeds you'd be in heaven. I'm gonna try messing around with it and see what I can do. I love the nutrition on it, tons of vitamins and minerals, and since I've had to cut back on cheese I could use a good source of calcium
So tahini is...not very good! The taste isn't terrible but holy shit is it strong. I guess if you love seseame seeds you'd be in heaven. I'm gonna try messing around with it and see what I can do. I love the nutrition on it, tons of vitamins and minerals, and since I've had to cut back on cheese I could use a good source of calcium
EverythingShiny
Member
Interesting, I'll have to look into those supplements. Just found out today my hydrogen breath test came back positive so I'm starting a round of antibiotics and I need to keep eating paleo. I'm glad to hear that cutting all that stuff out has helped the most. Hopefully it'll help me too.
Dralla - Do you have any cookie/brownie recipes you can share? Also, have you tried making a tahini dressing? I've got some tahini lying around but haven't tried to do anything with it yet - I tasted it and it was way bitter.
Lately I've been making paleo banana pancakes. It's so ridiculously easy and delicious. One banana mashed up mixed with two eggs. Cook like a pancake in a pan. I use coconut oil but tomorrow I might try ghee. Top it with butter and cinnamon and it's just fucking great.
I've been storing ghee in the fridge. Do you guys chill it too?
Also, tuna-avocado salad. Bees knees.
I've been storing ghee in the fridge. Do you guys chill it too?
Also, tuna-avocado salad. Bees knees.
Rookje
Member
Hypereides
Member
Paleo progress/story time!
So i've been following this diet for about a 3-4 weeks now (almost a complete month). I did not eat / drink any soda/juice, dairy products (eggs, cheese, milk etc.), fastfood, patatoes/starch, bread, sweets, chocolates the entire month. Everything I ate, I stirred up myself.
My skin has cleared up, I feel alot less bloated, slimmer around my waist, more energetic and in general my condition feels more improved and healthy. My mood has become more positive too. I'm more concentrated and feel more relaxed than I did before.
My inventory has consisted of:
Meat: salmon, pork, ground beef, bacon, chicken
Vegetables: celery, onions, spring onions, garlic, chili, leek, peppers (green/yellow/red), cucumbers, squash, eggplants, brocolli, tomatoes, mushrooms, radishes, carrots, gingerroots (I may have missed something here)
Oils: coconut oil (occasionally)
seasoning: curry, chili, pepper, oregano, tamian, basilicum,
Fruits: pineapples, apples, strawberries (occasionally once a week as a desert), kiwis, oranges and grapes
The only processed products I have are coffee and oatmeal (and perhaps tea). My main resource of liquid has been water or water from a pot/pitcher, dipped with a couple of slices of lemon. I have been restraining myself from salt and sugar the entire month.
Last thursday I tried to drink a pint of beer (for the first time in 3 weeks) and struggled to even finish it. My digestive system couldn't handle it. I guess I take it as a positive sign that my body has adapted itself to my diet.
Overall Im excited to begin working out next month!
So i've been following this diet for about a 3-4 weeks now (almost a complete month). I did not eat / drink any soda/juice, dairy products (eggs, cheese, milk etc.), fastfood, patatoes/starch, bread, sweets, chocolates the entire month. Everything I ate, I stirred up myself.
My skin has cleared up, I feel alot less bloated, slimmer around my waist, more energetic and in general my condition feels more improved and healthy. My mood has become more positive too. I'm more concentrated and feel more relaxed than I did before.
My inventory has consisted of:
Meat: salmon, pork, ground beef, bacon, chicken
Vegetables: celery, onions, spring onions, garlic, chili, leek, peppers (green/yellow/red), cucumbers, squash, eggplants, brocolli, tomatoes, mushrooms, radishes, carrots, gingerroots (I may have missed something here)
Oils: coconut oil (occasionally)
seasoning: curry, chili, pepper, oregano, tamian, basilicum,
Fruits: pineapples, apples, strawberries (occasionally once a week as a desert), kiwis, oranges and grapes
The only processed products I have are coffee and oatmeal (and perhaps tea). My main resource of liquid has been water or water from a pot/pitcher, dipped with a couple of slices of lemon. I have been restraining myself from salt and sugar the entire month.
Last thursday I tried to drink a pint of beer (for the first time in 3 weeks) and struggled to even finish it. My digestive system couldn't handle it. I guess I take it as a positive sign that my body has adapted itself to my diet.
Overall Im excited to begin working out next month!
hydragonwarrior
Member
Kale is awesome but everytime I buy it there's aiphid's in them about 2 or so days later lol
Also a question: How does Paleo diet consider soups? Soup is generally healthy in most cultures, and I think it has to do with that most soups are based off of getting the marrow out of chicken/pork/beef bones.
Homemade bone broth or stock is highly recommended because they're full of minerals. Other soups are fine as well, you'll find a lot of Paleo friendly soup recipes if you look for them.
Whoa. Very nice. Will try, thanks!
Do you guys think that having one day a week where you eat whatever you want is okay to do? I've been eating whatever (within reason) on Sundays as a sort of break from Paleo, and I was wondering if this might inhibit use of fat as fuel.
I ask because my stool is still very floaty/fatty, and just not that pleasant. I might be wrong here, but this MIGHT mean that my body isn't using all the fat I'm giving it.....is this the case or is stool SUPPOSED to be floaty? Just trying to figure this problem out
You probably have some kind of imbalance in your fiber intake. Try tracking the amount of fiber you eat each day to get a better picture and if you see a connection. Aim for about the same amount of fiber each day, too much fluctuation should be avoided as it disrupts the bacterial processes in your digestive tract.
Hypereides
Member
Oh, thanks I'll note that on my next grocery list shopping. I guess I slipped there with the misplaced dairy category.
Not sure if I want to add them though, but its good to have more options.
It's because it is a highly refined product. It's washed with solvents and caustic soda, goes through a chemical extraction process and even bleached in the final steps.
Besides, PUFAs like omega-3 aren't really that stable and canola oil is heated several times during its production process and that's not doing those PUFAs any good.
Look at how it's made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omjWmLG0EAs