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Palworld: Pokémon fans accuse the game of ripping off Pokémon
Amish Prince
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Isn't Pokemon just a baby smt ripoff to begin with?
Werewolf Jones
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That Meganium/Lilligant hybrid is fucking FIRE.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Looks like Meganium + Goodra + Lilligant to me.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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ahtlas7
Member
Ekans found the keyboard.
DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
Member
Yeah they’re borrowing design aspects, but it’s hard for me to care when Pokémon already has such a simplistic art design; how could you not run out of ideas for designs when you’re working in an art style that’s so limited in detail to begin with?
Paulistano
Member
For me Pokémon was good only on Red and Blue, Yellow was meh, and Gold and Silver was more of the same, never bothered with it since.
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LordOcidax
Member
Pokemon still selling 20+ million with each game. Nintendo knows their target audience pretty well... Even Pokemon Go still printing money. Some companies just take the easy path, and thats not bad. Their just want to make money.
MaskedSwan
Neo Member
I think it's safe to say that the CEO of Pocketpair is a total POS, loves NFT and Crypto and pushes his company to use AI as much as they can. If there is generative AI in Palworld, I assume this will get them in hot water since Steam recent policy update.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
salty gatekeepers
Torrent of Pork
Banned
If Game Freak wants to show these upstarts how it's done, and make a better game than Palworld they're more than welcome.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
I could give less of a shit about AI in video games. If a small developer can save X amount of money using AI art to better utilize other resources then I'm all for it. It's hilarious how Palworld is better than any Pokémon games in years with 10% of the resources
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Freelance Yakuza
Member
I hope they are also learning that nobody cares
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Mortisfacio
Member
One can hope. I'm currently enjoying Palworld more than I have any pokemon game since yellow. If Nintendo/GameFreak want to modernize Pokemon instead of milking the 90s version of the game for decades, more power to 'em, but until then it's their fault for letting upstarts make better versions than them.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Power Pro
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I do gotta say, the more I look at it, this feels like a more blatant rip off of pokemon in terms of designs. At least in some of the smaller scale ones I've seen like Nexomon, the designs looked unique. This one looks like they just took existing pokemon and mixed up features, which shouldn't be allowed.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Personally, I think we need more monter collecter games, but the designs are just to close to Pokemon. Nintendo is going to sue, it's just a matter of time.
KXVXII9X
Member
Mewtwo
Freiza
I mostly jest, but I do think the designs are obviously pulled from multiple media and not just Pokémon. One of literally Elektabuzz and Totoro lol.
My worry with the game is how well supported it is going forward and if it is shamelessly using the likeness of well known IP's to gain sudden buzz and drop off. Parts of the game are still heavily unpolished and aside from some neat ideas, it definitely doesn't feel like a complete game. I'm playing on PC GamePass which is said to be different from the other versions.
Freiza
I mostly jest, but I do think the designs are obviously pulled from multiple media and not just Pokémon. One of literally Elektabuzz and Totoro lol.
My worry with the game is how well supported it is going forward and if it is shamelessly using the likeness of well known IP's to gain sudden buzz and drop off. Parts of the game are still heavily unpolished and aside from some neat ideas, it definitely doesn't feel like a complete game. I'm playing on PC GamePass which is said to be different from the other versions.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Some will fight (journalists, Resetera, artists). When Microsoft starts mandating A.I. integration in their games... oh boy, that Xbox Tax will become a full International Moral Sanction. fun times ahead.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Don't be dense folks, I'm not a fan, never completed a game in the series, but it's pretty obvious the style is ripping off Pokemon but not much else of the gameplay is so that's fine tbh. But let's not pretend it doesn't try to do that with the pals. On the other hand, it's not like any of the actual Pokemon-likes could device something so unique, they're all based on real/fantasy animals and there are gazillions by now, all that differentiates others is some more unique general art style or if they're like, totally mechanised or digital or some other major style difference (and that probably still includes some look alikes). But again the game's not really like Pokemon at all and you could replace the palmons with, Idk, gacha waifus and husbandos and it'd be the same (if not even weirder with all the eventual factory line stuff and having them all slaving away beyond the basic survival and action). This one instead has a very similar style as Pokemons are quite sterile CG-like in most 3D games. It's not like they can stop people from having any kind of pet system in games because they happened to make one of the oldest/most popular around it and keep expanding it since, lol.
If AI was used it was probably just in the overall concept phase and then they refined the art, made the 3D models etc., so it's not like it can be accused easily like a game that only has simple 2D art and all of it generated with small edits, there's real work included here. But I guess if Nintendo can prove the AI was trained on Pokemons or that they even specifically asked it to cook up Pokemon-like stuff then they may have a real case. However I don't think they'd have to use AI to devise these designs so hopefully they went legit about it in that humans were doing the ripping off, lol.
Love to see Steam generate more indie hits.
If AI was used it was probably just in the overall concept phase and then they refined the art, made the 3D models etc., so it's not like it can be accused easily like a game that only has simple 2D art and all of it generated with small edits, there's real work included here. But I guess if Nintendo can prove the AI was trained on Pokemons or that they even specifically asked it to cook up Pokemon-like stuff then they may have a real case. However I don't think they'd have to use AI to devise these designs so hopefully they went legit about it in that humans were doing the ripping off, lol.
Love to see Steam generate more indie hits.
I mean, you just said Blizzard ripped WH/40K off, and TF2 so clearly you can say that without being accused of being a fanboy, same deal here, it's clearly ripping off Pokemon, but will get away with it just like Blizzard, and that's fine, folks can point it out rather than pretend it's an 100% original, lol.
Wtf? Nobody said you can own a genre, most of my post you cut off there is saying that and this isn't even the same genre as Pokemon (though I guess Pokemons aren't even a genre, we're talking designs here, not gameplay after all, and they're in anime and the main JRPG games and all kinds of spin offs so independent of any game genre even if the most popular is the main series, which isn't at all like Palworld), lol? Why selectively misquote folks pretending they said things they didn't, what's wrong with you? Yeah just go tl;dr now, well, you still replied all wrong so, just don't, instead.DeltaPolarBear said:
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Mortisfacio
Member
Warcraft was so long ago. Some early online forums were trashing it for ripping off Warhammer, but we're coming up on the 30th anniversary this year for Orcs and Humans. Nobody cares at this point.
Overwatch was a rip of the genre, but at least made semi-original characters.
Palworld on some of the Pals it's just a straight rip off Pokemon.
That said, I still don't care personally because Nintendo/GameFreak got lazy and has been rehashing the same game for 30 years with little innovation, so hoping things like this force them to make better games.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm not sure how accurate this is because I'm not an expert on this kind of thing, but it sounds about right.
Or Dragon Quest Monsters.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Sojiro
Member
Absolutely, an even better choice.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
It isn't a ripoff because it is explicitly legal. It is only a ripoff if it is pretending to be part of the Pokemon franchise. The laws are clear. I mean should ID have made it illegal for anyone else to make first person shooters? You can't own a genre.
hullostranger
Member
Why are they exposing all these indecipherable truths in comic ms sans?It's obvious that they are using Pokemon more than just as inspiration. But some of these comparisons are just stupid.
Like... for real?
Dr_Salt
Banned
Blizzard gets their free pass of plagiarism just stating it as "inspiration" because they are Blizzard.
Mortisfacio
Member
While I agree with most of these comparisons, the soldier 76 ones shouldn't be included there. The rest pretty clearly imitate likeness, but Soldier 76 isn't even using the base character. It's two skins that still don't even look very comparable. Roadhog, Junkrat, Rein, etc. look similar at the core of the character regardless of a particular skin.
It was all bullshit, maybe update your OP.
www.dsogaming.com
Modder who accused Palworld of using 3D models from Pokemon games admits that he has faked everything
The modder who accussed Palworld of using the 3D models of from various Pokemon games admitted that he has faked everything.
www.dsogaming.com
Same ol G
Member
And this was already debunked, people trying to discredit the modder.It was all bullshit, maybe update your OP.
Modder who accused Palworld of using 3D models from Pokemon games admits that he has faked everything
The modder who accussed Palworld of using the 3D models of from various Pokemon games admitted that he has faked everything.
Maybe look up what scaling actually does before calling bullshit.
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