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Pandora's Tower |UN-OT| The Rainfall Comes To An End
- Thread starter Jawmuncher
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It was their last copy and it was in this case...No artwork, but it still has the manual. I could print out the artwork I suppose and put it in the black case.
They "considered this new" apparently. It was there last copy in stock and it was my dad who went to get it... :/
Fake edit: to clarify, looking back on the receipt, it says PROMOTION: -$4, PROMOTION NOT FOUND. I'm guessing it was some random thing where they somehow lost the original case and cover art? Not sure. Either way, I'm glad to have the game.
Jawmuncher
Member
I've been playing some and currently just finished the 4th tower. Gotta say I'm enjoying it a lot especially Elena. Thus far she's a great character and her curse coupled with the time limit is a outstanding.
I like the voice actresses line delivery of 'what's up.'
Jawmuncher
Member
Going back to the tower just to talk is great. The VA did a great job especially like you said just saying something as simple as what's up.
Love that too. It's adorable.
kunonabi
Member
They really did a great job with Elena. I was actually surprised how much they made you care for her without it feeling forced or getting in the way. I think it helps that there is so much variety in the things that she does and the way her attachment grows is so natural and sweet. So much more effective than some BS escort mission or half-assed co-op system.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Now imagine the voice of Mamiko Noto coming out of her: pure perfection.
timetokill
Banned
The Japaneseness* is off-putting in a lot of ways but I'm still enjoying it.
* By that I mean the constant social awkwardness. She just wants to pinky swear with you, dude. She doesn't have cooties.... well maybe she does, lol. Anyway you're willing to catch her when she does her post-Thanksgiving-meal-beastflesh-coma, but she wants to hold hands for a sec and you freak out? Also, the whole "unh" while nodding to say "yeah" thing.. I feel bad for translators, I don't think there's ever a way to make that work well for westerners. That and constantly saying the other person's name followed by ellipses.
* By that I mean the constant social awkwardness. She just wants to pinky swear with you, dude. She doesn't have cooties.... well maybe she does, lol. Anyway you're willing to catch her when she does her post-Thanksgiving-meal-beastflesh-coma, but she wants to hold hands for a sec and you freak out? Also, the whole "unh" while nodding to say "yeah" thing.. I feel bad for translators, I don't think there's ever a way to make that work well for westerners. That and constantly saying the other person's name followed by ellipses.
I'm thinking about it to be honest. It doesn't bug me too bad, but it irks me that since they charged it as used basically, they get all my money. I bought it for XSEED's profit, not theirs. (My dad said he looked like everywhere in Des Moines and this GameStop was the only place that had it) if that makes sense? I feel like I should do my part considering they brought it over. That's the main reason I got it, I wasn't even that interested in playing it. It's pretty good though.
I guess I just don't understand how they could "lose" the case and whatever else so soon. Did somebody return it to them like that, or were they just using the actual case as a display case and were too lazy to give you the proper one, or what? It just seems fishy as hell that something so new would have no other options than that. What's the quality of the disc?
Yeah I'm really not sure at all.
Disc is in brand new condition though, surprisingly. No smudges or anything.
Arkage
Banned
I'm enjoying the gameplay and graphics (for wii) pretty well so far. Story is decent too, when it decides to show up. Controls seems a little laggy at times which can be frustrating, especially for chain releases or dodging out of a combo. But I find the compact structure of the dungeons and bosses very enjoyable to figure out.
The worst part of the game is the music though hands down. Its the first time in a long while where I'm playing through the game on mute. There only seems to be four tracks for the entire game: dungeon/boss/home/merchant. None of which are enjoyable past the first listen. Ugh.
The worst part of the game is the music though hands down. Its the first time in a long while where I'm playing through the game on mute. There only seems to be four tracks for the entire game: dungeon/boss/home/merchant. None of which are enjoyable past the first listen. Ugh.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
The final boss and credits are simply amazing imo, so hopefully you can look forward to it and hopefully not totally disagree.
Elena has 3 different transformations, have you seen them all? The emptier the time meter, the more monster like she looks.
Not sure if its a spoiler or not but is the last transformation where she still has a human face but has basically everything else monsterized? This game is super fun. I'm at the second tower, but I need to sleep. It's almost 5 AM!
The most basic transformation happens in the main room of the observatory, the next one takes place in the
basement
courtyard
5 or less, 6-10, 11 or more
I've avoided that on fears of getting the bad ending.
Fox Mulder
Member
No artwork, but it still has the manual. I could print out the artwork I suppose and put it in the black case.
Why not return it and buy it brand new and sealed from amazon for $40?
It's not like it's really rare or hard to find yet. I got metroid prime trilogy used at GameStop a few months ago in a worse condition than I would prefer, but ended up selling it for a better one.
Exactly how I feel. The moment I see the meter dip a little to far, I run right back to the observatory haha.
Arkage
Banned
Thought I'd post this for all you guys since it held me up for a good hour. There is a known glitch that freezes your whole system when you try to enter the 11th/12th towers. The supposed solution is to trigger a cutscene and immediately enter the tower, but that hasn't worked for me. Here's the official thread:
http://xseedgames.com/forums/showthread.php?3806-The-glitches-thread-(TM)-no-spoilers!&
Looks like I won't be finishing this game. Fantastic how it happens near the end of the game too.
Edit: I was able to enter the 12th tower after triggering the cutscene, and then transfer into the 11th directly from it. Yay!
http://xseedgames.com/forums/showthread.php?3806-The-glitches-thread-(TM)-no-spoilers!&
Looks like I won't be finishing this game. Fantastic how it happens near the end of the game too.
Edit: I was able to enter the 12th tower after triggering the cutscene, and then transfer into the 11th directly from it. Yay!
kunonabi
Member
lol, I actually beat the game when it was 5AM after staying up all night. Did the same for TLS come to think of it. Only games this gen I've done that with.
Locklore64
Member
sigh....ran into the 11/12 tower bug. Tried the whole cutscene trick. Nothing.
Was there anyway not to run into this? I ALWAYS SOMEHOW RUN INTO INFAMOUS GAME BREAKING BUGS. It was just getting real good too...
Was there anyway not to run into this? I ALWAYS SOMEHOW RUN INTO INFAMOUS GAME BREAKING BUGS. It was just getting real good too...
timetokill
Banned
Is there some way to avoid it entirely, like by doing something out of order or something?
why are both of these so widespread and how do i end it.
Arkage
Banned
It locks you out of both towers? The 11st always locked on me but I was able to get into the 12th using the eat meat, sleep till 7, talk to her for cutscene, enter 12th dungeon, then transfer to 11th from 12th. There were 3-4 breakfast scenes to go through so it was enough for me to get through the dungeons.
But yea, no way to avoid it as far as I know. Which makes it a pretty horrendous bug.
Jawmuncher
Member
Wrapping up P4G but will be jumping back on this ASAP. Was really enjoying it. Hopefully that glitch doesn't rear it's ugly head for me.
Locklore64
Member
Ya, tried both. I always gave her meat, cue to next morning and she's still sleeping, so I wait till she wakes up, talk to her, save, then leave. That has failed in getting into either tower. Unless i'm doing something clearly wrong...
Randam_Hajile
Member
This game is fantastic! Didn't know much of what to expect other than I wanted to support Op Rainfall, but I am seriously loving this game. Halfway through the third tower and everything about it is just really awesome. Thanks so much to Xseed for bringing it over here! Also, don't know why they even bothered with Classic Controller support; the game was obviously made with the pointer in mind, and it's really satisfying shooting the chain and yanking beast flesh out!
On another note, has anyone else tried playing this on Dolphin? Having a 52 inch plasma screen makes my Wii games look like ass, so I transferred my save file over to Dolphin and I can't play the game for 5 minutes without the Wiimote disconnecting. I don't think it's my bluetooth dongle; I've played other games entirely without ever getting any disconnects. I tried turning the Wiimote speaker off, but still no dice. Anyone else having this problem?
On another note, has anyone else tried playing this on Dolphin? Having a 52 inch plasma screen makes my Wii games look like ass, so I transferred my save file over to Dolphin and I can't play the game for 5 minutes without the Wiimote disconnecting. I don't think it's my bluetooth dongle; I've played other games entirely without ever getting any disconnects. I tried turning the Wiimote speaker off, but still no dice. Anyone else having this problem?
Personally, i liked how the writers weren't afraid to make her scary or flawed
i'm talking about the scenes were she started to enjoy the Magisters' meat, to the point she even started to demand it.
I was able to get into Tower 11 every time it froze up on me by going back to 10, immediately returning to The Observatory, saving, then selecting Tower 11. I never got this to work with Tower 12, but it's worth giving a try.
kunonabi
Member
agreed. She's much more fleshed out than you expect going in. I thought it was going to be an action game with a tacked on dating sim but they handled it so well that it really lifts the game up.
All games behave differently through emus I'd contact the people that developed Dolphin and let them know about this issue.
Went back and forth about 12 times on this game (I even ordered it on Amazon and canceled) but I finally officially picked it up at Gamestop this evening. So, does this game not even a code to register at Club Nintendo? Maybe The Last Story didn't either, I can't remember.
I know these games were published by XSEED over here, but considering they are still Nintendo products, I figured we'd at least get a code.
I know these games were published by XSEED over here, but considering they are still Nintendo products, I figured we'd at least get a code.
Byronic Hero
Member
Gametrailers Review
Add a full point to their score and I'd fully agree. Except the part about the chain not working during some of the platforming sections. I found that it worked just as well as, if not better than, the hookshot from LoZ.
Add a full point to their score and I'd fully agree. Except the part about the chain not working during some of the platforming sections. I found that it worked just as well as, if not better than, the hookshot from LoZ.
I loved it. It was much better than Xenoblade in my opinion, and I'm just now getting to The Last Story, but so far, PT is my favorite of the three Project Rainfall titles.
Arc Christelle
Member
I love this game. That is all. I must return to my Waifu.... yeah baby...eat it.... eat...
Partially with you on the Japaneseness issue timetokill. Too many moments of 'just fucking say something dude'. However, when he actually says something it's weird and kind of interesting... Not in content, but I've twice asked myself 'wait, did the protagonist just talk?'. It's a little surreal and almost played against the stereotype..?
Maybe I'm over-thinking it?
The voice acting is ace here. The sparseness and focus of it helps entrench the characters. Both Mavda and Elena are simple but balanced foils. Mavda's art/character design can't be praised enough.
I'm really early in the game still, Tower 2. The system is starting to show its colors and challenge and I'm working towards playing it right. The rogue-like comparisons are very apt as far as I can tell.
More people need to play this game. It's way out there and actually risky. Feels like the PS2-era - where there was actually a mainstream wild-west for game ideas.
Maybe I'm over-thinking it?
The voice acting is ace here. The sparseness and focus of it helps entrench the characters. Both Mavda and Elena are simple but balanced foils. Mavda's art/character design can't be praised enough.
I'm really early in the game still, Tower 2. The system is starting to show its colors and challenge and I'm working towards playing it right. The rogue-like comparisons are very apt as far as I can tell.
More people need to play this game. It's way out there and actually risky. Feels like the PS2-era - where there was actually a mainstream wild-west for game ideas.
Jawmuncher
Member
Definitely one of my favorite aspects about it.
Its just so fresh compared to what's been on consoles as of late.
Scalpel Knight
Member
I got this and I'm on the second tower. It's been on my mind a lot, which I can't say about many games for me nowadays. Initially the chain seemed a bit confusing to me but the controls started to feel really good for me after about 45 minutes of playing. Can't wait to dig in some more. Maybe this one won't end up in the massive purgatory that is my backlog.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
It really is the best example of the kind of mainstream game I expected to see more of on Wii. Nothing amazing about it technically but the game design and appropriate use of Wii's controls make for a very compelling experience.
Add to that the setting, story and presentation and you've got something truly unique!
The narrative is also quite engaging and mature once you get further into it.
I stopped playing after getting stuck in the fifth tower back in the day, maybe I'll cheat my way through that part to see the rest of the game.
Seriously. I just finished up the disappointing (to me) Bioshock Infinite tonight and the game's flaws are probably hoisting the qualities of PT up for me.
Bioshock was self-aware, pretentious, and over-cooked. It felt like a hard-worked smattering of ideas that became something mediocre against a great backdrop. It has no commitments anywhere, and it dilutes some marvelous visuals and tight controls to 'hit us' with its story.
Pandora's Tower is small. Contained. It gives us people. It gives us dungeons. It has sometimes bad controls, imprecise combat, and poor direction. Still, I care about PT, partly for its status, but also because the game invites attention. Every time Elena gets worse, I get worse. I genuinely cared when my meter flashed. The oh fuck moments and investment were there in a way that contrasted the the 'never gave two fucks' about Elizabeth quotient in BI. I did this all while being confounded by the protagonist's weird bullshit...
Also, every time Elena changes is harsh. It's weird, it's fucked up - but she's strong. She cares and she's portrayed in such a way that I want to give her some fucking flower seeds. There's a woman there, and it's rare to say that about a game circa 5/4/13.