I had to reformat a PC like 2 months ago with the same SATA issue and no working floppy drive. Googled for like an hour till I found that badboy and then BAM!ComputerNerd said:Wow, never seen this before. Thanks for the info.
I had to reformat a PC like 2 months ago with the same SATA issue and no working floppy drive. Googled for like an hour till I found that badboy and then BAM!ComputerNerd said:Wow, never seen this before. Thanks for the info.
Both, my friend. I'm recycling some components, so my cost will be lower than the cost in the first post, but the goal is to get this down as low as possible and still make it relevant for 2-3 years. I'm aiming to spend ~$500 after rebates.SRG01 said:Wait, so for this system, are we aiming for lowest cost, or best performance for cost?
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:I can't understand a joke.
Lhadatt said:I'm still gaming on a Radeon 9600XT 128MB, Athlon XP 2500+, and 1 GB of RAM. Team Fortress 2, Portal, and all the other cool games coming out for PC soon have prompted me to think about a new PC. I have enough parts in this one to create a completely new one for gaming and general use, while letting me use the old one for a server or something. Problem is, I don't know anything about the current PC market. GAF does, so here we are.
The 2600XT is a mid-end card. It's basically the X1650, but it does DX10 and has full HDMI support and HD video acceleration. It'll handle games well enough if you're running them at 1280x1024 or less.Lhadatt said:- I found benchmarks comparing the HD2600 XT and the 1950 Pro, didn't know there was such a difference. What's ATI's reasoning behind this? Is the 2600 more for home theater systems or something?
Can't find it, can i get a link ?perryfarrell said:Yeah look at the thread in which Valis bought a PC. It was high-end.
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:Blah blah
IzumiK said:I guess I hurt your feelings Apple fanboy.
Probably paid an overpriced amount on an Apple Mac and crying about it after looking at the op.
You! GTFO of my thread. And learn how to use the Quote feature.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:"Seriously, get out sometimes.
And it's not a server. It's a custom Mac Pro for home use."
If only your jokes were funny once in a while... Since you brought it up though I wonder if they've sold one of those yet...
Holy schnikeys. That puts this build into midrange territory. I'm trying to keep the video card below $150.Mr. Pointy said:http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13292
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102706
ATi (AMD, whatever) Radeon HD 2900Pro. An underclocked 2900XT with the same (512MB GDDR3) RAM for less than a 320MB 8800GTS. It outperforms that one, so you can breathe easy.
Lhadatt said:Holy schnikeys. That puts this build into midrange territory. I'm trying to keep the video card below $150.
Yeah, it's spooky.M3wThr33 said:For KBM, I recommend the Microsoft Wireless Desktop Elite. The battery life in them is pure fucking voodoo. Logitech shit dies weekly. The MS stuff lasts for about 6-8 months at a time.
That's a nice one. I think I might put that as an alternate for the list.OatmealMu said:Here's the one I ordered just this Friday:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131055
$140 with the rebate. It's not quite as fast as the HIS card, but it's supposed to be really quiet with the stock heatsink, which is actually an Arctic Cooling Accelero X2.
IzumiK said:Seriously, get out sometimes.
And it's not a server. It's a custom Mac Pro for home use.
Buy an OEM version of XP pro, it's dirt cheap and get Vista later.oo Kosma oo said:As far as OS go I don't understand all that Vista hate.
I mean is buying an XP system in September 2007 really a good investment?
Er, this spec is a Vista-ready system. Vista just isn't ready for the market. No where have I positioned this system to not run Vista, unless you count the DX9 video card.oo Kosma oo said:As far as OS go I don't understand all that Vista hate.
I mean is buying an XP system in September 2007 really a good investment?
Academic. It's cheaper.micky said:Buy an OEM version of XP pro, it's dirt cheap and get Vista later.
Lhadatt said:I thought that pic was pretty darn funny. $21k for that box is overkill. It's market prices, sure, but there's no need to have that machine unless you're going to be doing hardcore stuff, like heavy data processing, superduper rendering/CAD crap, time travel, or hacking the Pentagon from your mother's basement.
Edited for clarity, since people thought I was saying Vista needs expensive hardware to run right:dark_preacher said:a lot of people that hate on vista just don't have pc's that can run it properly. all of these midrange pc's you guys are building are not suitable for vista. i'd go so far as to say a serious gaming pc running vista needs 4gb ram minimum.
that being said, i run vista ultimate 64 bit on a pretty boss machine and i have no complaints. it's an excellent upgrade over xp. sp1 will only widen the gap. don't hate on vista unless you've actually used it. i know it's easy to jump on here and join in on the group think.
dark_preacher said:a lot of people that hate on vista just don't have pc's that can run it properly. all of these midrange pc's you guys are building are not suitable for vista. i'd go so far as to say a serious gaming pc running vista needs 4gb ram minimum.
that being said, i run vista ultimate 64 bit on a pretty boss machine and i have no complaints. it's an excellent upgrade over xp. sp1 will only widen the gap. don't hate on vista unless you've actually used it. i know it's easy to jump on here and join in on the group think.
I hope you're kidding. I ran Vista on a 3 year-old machine. Sure, it didn't have Aero, but it was 3 years old with an integrated card. And it was a just a 14" Sony... Vista's reqs aren't high at all..Lhadatt said:If it requires 4 GB of RAM, a high-end processor, a $500 video card, and moving to 64-bit to run it, it's not suitable for Joe Average.
You're wrong. A HD 2400 (~50$) is good enough to run XP and there's a 32-bit version of Vista.Lhadatt said:If it requires 4 GB of RAM, a high-end processor, a $500 video card, and moving to 64-bit to run it, it's not suitable for Joe Average. This is where MS seriously flubbed up - there is no need to make an OS that requires that much hardware to run when the average user isn't going to spend that much money on it. Apple figured out how to make OS X 10.4 run on this same level hardware, so there's no excuse for MS to not follow suit.
Aside from that, Vista has a ton of basic user experience and security flaws. It's the new ME, the new 32X.
He's also wrong since you can run Aero with integrated cards (depending on which integrated card you have. I know new laptops have good enough integrated cards to run Aero.)Vic said:You're wrong. A HD 2400 (~50$) is good enough to run XP and there's a 32-bit version of Vista.
Personally, I don't see the point of installing Vista other than playing DX10 games (lol) but that me. XP SP2 is goddamn close to perfection IMO. Shit just works.Lhadatt said:LOL! I know it doesn't require all that crap, I'm just responding to preacher.
I can run Vista on my current setup just fine. I just don't think it's ready for anything useful and it shouldn't be advocated on a new build.
dark_preacher said:a lot of people that hate on vista just don't have pc's that can run it properly. all of these midrange pc's you guys are building are not suitable for vista. i'd go so far as to say a serious gaming pc running vista needs 4gb ram minimum.
I've edited that post above to show what my point was really going for.Vic said:Personally, I don't see the point of installing Vista other than playing DX10 games (lol) but that me. XP SP2 is goddamn close to perfection IMO. Shit just works.
Teknopathetic said:Short of DX10, pretty much all of the ZOMG UPGRADE worthy features of Vista have been axed over the years of delays.
I know one of the important one was WinFS, right? The database like file system?Teknopathetic said:Let's see if we can't find one.
Lhadatt said:I thought that pic was pretty darn funny. $21k for that box is overkill. It's market prices, sure, but there's no need to have that machine unless you're going to be doing hardcore stuff, like heavy data processing, superduper rendering/CAD crap, time travel, or hacking the Pentagon from your mother's basement.
Teknopathetic said:Let's see if we can't find one.
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