Wouldnt it just be easier to have a poll that asks if anyone has had to have their PS5 fixed due to a liquid metal issue? Or would that be pointless because its likely 1 or 2 people max?Well we've got a community of PS5 owners here, so I wanted to see how many users might have ran into this type of issue.
You're right that a shutdown could be caused by things other than liquid metal leaking, but I hope those answering the poll make the assumption the question is in relation to them thinking their problem (if they have one) may be due to a liquid metal leakage.
3 or 4 videos of it happening versus 10's of millions of PS5 sold?Dry spots in the liquid metal on PS5's isn't a rumor. There's a lot of video on the repair YouTube channels that show it is a thing that happens and with liquid metal remaining liquid gravity is going to pull it downward. The rumor may be that it's a big problem, but it isn't something I've seen a PS5 die from on the repair channels. But the dry spots definitely happen.
I fixed a few Phat Ps5 and liquid metal has been an issue, its pretty well known in the repair shop and pawnshop world
Funny that this should pop back up now.
What convenient timing.
Ask Phil when he gets home from work tonight.
This more common than people think… But like i said the maintenance is easy.A coworker of mine "repairs" console mainboards in his freetime.
He warned me about this months ago.
Ah, another one of those "At whose request?" posts.
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No need to be defensive. I've seen more than 3 or 4. I've seen dozens. But the dry spot is never the reason the console doesn't work. I've only ever seen one where cleaning off the oxidation and reapplying liquid metal was needed to fix an overheating problem and that's because the console had been dropped and it did something to how the heat sink adhered to the motherboard . PS5's seem to usually die because people break the hdmi port or fry the hdmi chip because they don't know how to plug in a cable properly.3 or 4 videos of it happening versus 10's of millions of PS5 sold?
I'm not being defensive, I'm just saying (currently) its being overblown, even dozens is small, the dev in the OP says it should be affecting millions of consoles (3%) but that does not appear to be the case as that would certainly make the news.No need to be defensive. I've seen more than 3 or 4. I've seen dozens. But the dry spot is never the reason the console doesn't work. I've only ever seen one where cleaning off the oxidation and reapplying liquid metal was needed to fix an overheating problem and that's because the console had been dropped and it did something to how the heat sink adhered to the motherboard . PS5's seem to usually die because people break the hdmi port or fry the hdmi chip because they don't know how to plug in a cable properly.
Liquid metal dry spots can also also an issue in PC's where the CPU and cooler are vertically oriented. Gravity and air will always be a thing.
I believe we will see more dry spot issues as time goes on, the newer models and Pro are fine atleastSo you'd say this has the makings of a legit issue?
I've got mine vertical since I got it, maybe time to change that.
OofSince GOWR my PS5 shutdown without a warning, i have to replace the liquid metal at least once a year to fix It.
My PS5 is the launch version.
Wouldnt it just be easier to have a poll that asks if anyone has had to have their PS5 fixed due to a liquid metal issue? Or would that be pointless because its likely 1 or 2 people max?
I fixed a few Phat Ps5 and liquid metal has been an issue, its pretty well known in the repair shop and pawnshop world
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EDIT: The devs HAVE reached out to SIE/Cerny, and they are aware of the problem. Affects early/launch models much more than slim models, but some of those are affected too. Also appears to be a much less frequent problem for systems in horizontal position.
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This unit has been in my store since the launch of the system. We turn it on at 11 am and turn it off at 8 pm (9 pm Fridays and Saturdays).
No issues whatsoever despite being buried in dust for the first year of service.
For what its worth, I'm sure Sony will be doing their due diligence and investigating/monitoring it just in case there is an issue in the future, but I would think the engineers at Sony would have thought about this before even using liquid metal in the console in the first place.Well going by the poll results and posts ITT, it probably would've been pointless because it's only been maybe 5-6 people who've even mentioned having an issue with their PS5. And 2/3 of those might not be due to a liquid metal issue.
But yeah, I've reading the responses and, in general, it looks like this isn't a major issue. I don't know what that game dev who was interviewed might've done with their code, or if they had the bad luck of their game being played by a bunch of people who just happened to have faulty systems (which could've ended up that way because of their own negligence). I thought it an interesting situation to look into, but I'd say the responses here are a good sampling that the problem isn't widespread and likely well within the typical margin of hardware defects (IIRC that's something like 1-2% of all systems out there).
Some of the more detailed responses have been educational though, in understanding a bit more how any type of leakage could happen. It seems that, most likely, the dev in question might just need to recheck their game code and see if something there is causing an excess power draw.
Typical of WCCF Tech, an overly dramatic title. From the sound of the interview, it's systems shutting down and, going by responses ITT (as a sampling), it's not a widespread issue.
This might at most only be affecting 1% of PS5s, or even just a fraction of 1%. But maybe some reputable researchers can investigate the situation more in-depth.
How many fat PS5s have you fixed in total and what percentage would you say had an issue related to liquid metal leakage?
Or get that shit all over the main board.My main issue with all of this is that you could (will) get some people who will open their PS5's up and check for dry spots when they don't have the skill to do so and that will then accelerate getting dry spots because they have disturbed the liquid metal. Basically, people are stupid.
Simply to improve adherence? Its not necessarily because of a fault. I had mine vertical since 2020 .. not a single issue.ps5 pro improvments taught us that yes it can be a problem if you let it vertically. why would they need to add the stripes on the apu otherwise?
and i believe you. but anecdotal evidence means nothing when you sell millions of a machine. improvements of a specific part do mean something. like when they silently improved the solidity of some parts of the dualsense v2. you only spend money at improving something to reduce problems, to actually lose less money. they are not a charitySimply to improve adherence? Its not necessarily because of a fault. I had mine vertical since 2020 .. not a single issue.
Yes, but there is also the risk of leaking and short circuits which applies to both. In general it is a much more unsafe/risky material than good old thermal paste. Tried it once on PC, never again.Yeah, it's an absolute pain to apply manually on your own and the benefits are not usually large enough to justify the pain and risk. Though this has nothing to do with a device that has it pre-applied from the factory.
and i believe you. but anecdotal evidence means nothing when you sell millions of a machine. improvements of a specific part do mean something. like when they silently improved the solidity of some parts of the dualsense v2. you only spend money at improving something to reduce problems, to actually lose less money. they are not a charity
sure, but i rarely ever win at any lottery. after a few weeks i quickly put my ps5 horizontally upside down, like hermen taught us, and i slept better.Worst case scenario its still within the normal failure rate of electronics.
They are aware of it, it's mentioned in the video.For what its worth, I'm sure Sony will be doing their due diligence and investigating/monitoring it just in case there is an issue in the future, but I would think the engineers at Sony would have thought about this before even using liquid metal in the console in the first place.
The PS5 has been in a vertical position since launch, no issues here. But I do recall a segment on the pro about improvements to cooling/liquid metal so it's probably far from perfect and Sony has also noticed potential issues.
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